The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Kirkhill]

US Navy backroom ally of Trudeau gov't?

Mark
Ottawa

A Squadron of Super Hornets for permanent deployment in Eastern Europe supported by US assets.

Liberals get to claim they have done something  They also get to claim they have expanded capabilities.  They don't need to build infrastructure here in Canada.  They defer the decision on F35.  They unload flight hours from the Hornets and extend their life here in Canada.

Transition training managed by the US Navy.  Not a new concept.

Heck, they could even lease them.

 

[MarkOttawa]

Politics, politics all is politics:

Boeing Super Hornets for RCAF, Jobs for Bombardier…and a Pipeline?
https://cgai3ds.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/mark-collins-boeing-super-hornets-for-rcaf-jobs-for-bombardier-and-a-pipeline/

Sigh.  Or hurl.

Mark
Ottawa

 

[Altair]

Politics, politics all is politics:

Sigh.  Or hurl.

Mark
Ottawa

Yup,called it. I said it before, bombardier needs help, either in terms of a federal bailout or more business shoved their way, and the federal government would do it but their price would be quebec city approving ( or at least shutting up) about the energy east pipeline.

Everybody wins.

 

[PuckChaser]

Except the RCAF, they get stuck with an inferior aircraft built by a second rate manufacturer. Standard Liberal pork barrel procurements.

 

[Kirkhill]

Politics, politics all is politics:

Sigh.  Or hurl.

Mark
Ottawa

comme il faut

 

[jmt18325]

Except the RCAF, they get stuck with an inferior aircraft built by a second rate manufacturer. Standard Liberal pork barrel procurements.

Since when is Boeing second rate...or Bombardier?  They produce two of the most advanced (the C-series and 787) aircraft on the planet.

 

[PuckChaser]

Since when is Boeing second rate...or Bombardier?  They produce two of the most advanced (the C-series and 787) aircraft on the planet.

Nobody wants the C-series right now, and we're talking about combat aircraft. How many combat aircraft has Bombardier built, ever?

 

[jmt18325]

Nobody wants the C-series right now,

Assuming the 300 they've sold don't count, sure.

and we're talking about combat aircraft. How many combat aircraft has Bombardier built, ever?

I don't think the theory is that Bombardier will build the plane.  At least, that's not the way I read it.  Boeing builds the plane, bombardier gets money or work of some kind, and Canada gets a pipeline.  Seems like everything works out pretty well there.

 

[dapaterson]

How many combat aircraft has Bombardier built, ever?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_Sabre

 

[dimsum]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_Sabre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CF-104_Starfighter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CP-107_Argus

 

[PuckChaser]

I mean, if they're going to build us Super Hornet's they have plenty of experience in 1970s technology in combat aircraft. Great deal.

 

[Altair]

I mean, if they're going to build us Super Hornet's they have plenty of experience in 1970s technology in combat aircraft. Great deal.

Exactly, they have experience in building combat aircraft, they currently build pretty good high tech aircraft, alberta gets its pipeline and the Americans don't give a damn because we bought one of their planes.

Everything coming up roses

 

[Kirkhill]

I wonder if the brakes will squeak.

 

[McG]

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is refusing to recommit to an open competition to select Canada's next fighter jet, despite increasing questions over whether his government will keep its promise to do so.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/justin-trudeau-refuses-to-renew-pledge-for-fighter-jet-competition-1.2957184

 

[PuckChaser]

Without that competition, any "interim" fighter will be what we get to use for the next 35 years or so, chosen not on merit, but partisan political ideals and porkbarreling. That's likely why the Bombardier bailout is taking so long, they want cash to satisfy their shareholders, Trudeau wants them to build Super Hornets instead.

 

[MarkOttawa]

PuckChaser: I doubt Bombardier has the unused facilities actually to assemble Super Hornets--idea would be for Boeing to give the company--and others in Canada--subcontracting work of various sorts (note last comment):

Boeing Super Hornets for RCAF, Jobs for Bombardier…and a Pipeline?
https://cgai3ds.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/mark-collins-boeing-super-hornets-for-rcaf-jobs-for-bombardier-and-a-pipeline/

Mark
Ottawa

 

[PuckChaser]

That's OK, we'll pay them to build them. Irving got money to retool shops and build facilities for NSBP. Who cares if it costs another couple billion?

 

[MilEME09]

That's OK, we'll pay them to build them. Irving got money to retool shops and build facilities for NSBP. Who cares if it costs another couple billion?

taxpayers who are uninformed about the costs of buying canadian

 

[jmt18325]

taxpayers who are uninformed about the costs of buying canadian

And on the other side, those who don't understand the benefits.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

And on the other side, those who don't understand the benefits.

Like subpar equipment with squeaky brakes and military trucks that can't leave a hard surfaced road.