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NATO apologizes after U.S. soldier opens fire on Afghan civilians

"As well, what wisdom lies behind winning a heart of greed and a mind that goes berserk on the equivalent of not saying god bless you when one sneezes?"

That sounds like just a touch of exaggeration.  It may also apply to say a Wall Street Bankster, and the last I heard they were on our side.

Hmmm, perhaps President Obama should surge some of them over. It'd be kinda like Aliens vs Predator.  >:D
 
Kalatzi said:
a Wall Street Bankster, and the last I heard they were on our side.

Can i interest you in some water front property down in Florida?
 
Child witnesses to Afghan massacre say Robert Bales was not alone

link here http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10927844-child-witnesses-to-afghan-massacre-say-robert-bales-was-not-alone

I hope that the reports are wrong. Yes, it could be classic misinformation.
 
Using fired bullets like these, which hit a womans house in Iraq.

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;D

I love it when someone shows a photo like that.  Anything to rile up the ignorant.
 
The article has a link to a dateline feature. Its about 15 minutes long.

I do think that Bales acted alone. That said, its clear from the video that some Afghans don't agree.
 
I', inclined to believe the Afghan kid.

A brother of one victim told Hakim that his brother’s children mentioned more than one soldier wearing a headlamp. They also had lights at the end of their guns, he said.
Totally believable. Soldiers DO have headlamps and taclights at the end of their guns. How would a kid know to make that up?

The massacre came several days after a roadside bomb attack that cost one soldier his leg. Village residents told reporters and Afghan government officials that after the roadside bomb attack, U.S. troops lined up men from the village against a wall and told them they would pay a price.
Believable. Classic you hurt one of us so we're going to kill your women and children.

Gen. Karimi, assigned by Afghan President Hamid Karzai to investigate the murders, told Hakim that he, too, wonders whether Bales acted alone and how he could left the base without notice.

With support falling for the war in Afghanistan the US has everything to gain and nothing to lose by sending out a sloppy kill team to murder men women and children then arresting a single scape goal to take the rap.
 
ObedientiaZelum said:
I', inclined to believe the Afghan kid.
Totally believable. Soldiers DO have headlamps and taclights at the end of their guns. How would a kid know to make that up?
Believable. Classic you hurt one of us so we're going to kill your women and children.

With support falling for the war in Afghanistan the US has everything to gain and nothing to lose by sending out a sloppy kill team to murder men women and children then arresting a single scape goal to take the rap.

Yeah cause kids and villagers around panjuai would have never seen a soldier after dark.  ::) And for certain the taliban have not told them what to say to the media.

Sounds like info op's by the en capitalizing on a crappy act by one ISAF member.
 
.... from Stars & Stripes:
Staff Sgt. Robert Bales will be examined in spring by an Army panel of doctors to determine whether he is mentally fit to stand trial on charges of murdering 17 Afghan villagers, according to an Army official briefed on the case.

A “sanity board” of Army doctors from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center will meet with Bales and review his files to understand more about his personal life and military experience.

The board will likely examine any prescription medications he may have taken before the March 11 killings in two villages in Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan.

The doctors will determine whether Bales had a severe mental disease or defect at the time of the killings. They also will decide if he is able to appreciate the wrongfulness of his alleged conduct and whether he is able to understand the court-martial proceedings and to cooperate in his defense.

The panel, which will offer a clinical psychiatric diagnosis of Bales, is expected to complete its work in the next 30 to 45 days, according to the Army official, who was not given permission to speak on the record.

The sanity board is an important early step in a court-martial process that may extend for years. Bales is to be tried in the murders of 17 civilians, most of them women and children, in a case that constitutes the most serious war crimes to emerge from U.S. involvement in Afghanistan ....
 
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Staff Sgt. Robert Bales has been instructed by his civilian attorney to not participate in an Army sanity-board process scheduled for this spring that would determine whether the Joint Base Lewis-McChord soldier is fit to undergo a court-martial on charges of murdering 17 Afghan civilians.

The attorney, John Henry Browne, said that base officials denied defense requests that included allowing counsel to be present at the board proceeding, make a recording of the proceeding and to put a neuropsychologist on the board.

“We have asked that these ill-advised decisions be reconsidered, no response so far,” Browne said in a statement released Friday.

Browne said that his client has a Fifth Amendment right to remain silent and not participate in the sanity-board process.

Earlier this week, a base official confirmed that a sanity board of Army doctors from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center will meet with Bales and review his files to understand more about his personal life and military experience before March 11, when he is accused of murdering the civilians in two villages in Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan.

The doctors will determine whether Bales had a severe mental disease or defect at the time of the killings. They also will decide whether he is able to appreciate the wrongfulness of his alleged conduct, to understand the court-martial proceedings and to cooperate in his defense, according to an Army official briefed on the decision.

The panel, which will offer a clinical psychiatric diagnosis of Bales, is expected to complete its work in the next 30 to 45 days.

The board produces a brief document that states whether Bales is fit for trial, and a longer document that can be obtained by the defense and later by prosecutors if mental competency is raised during the court-martial.

Maj. Chris Ophardt, a base spokesman, said the board proceeding is supposed to be a neutral, non-adversarial medical review, and that lawyers are not typically present when the board convenes. He said that JBLM officials involved in handling the defense requests thought that Walter Reed would pick the best qualified medical personnel to serve on the board, and that it would not be appropriate to dictate who that should be by granting the defense request to appoint a neuropsychologist.

Browne, in past interviews, has said there’s a possibility that his client suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, brought on by injuries and multiple combat deployments — important issues to be explored by the defense.

Daniel Conway, a civilian military-defense attorney, said that in such a high-profile case as Bales’, it would be reasonable to request to have his attorney present during the sanity-board process. Conway said it also would be important to have a neuropsychologist on the board to examine issues related to traumatic brain injury.

Even if Bales does not participate in the sanity board, its members could still opt to reach a determination of fitness through a review of medical records and other actions.
Stars & Stripes, 13 Apr 12
 
U.S. soldier charged in Afghan massacre to plead guilty

A U.S. soldier accused of killing 16 Afghan civilians in two rampages from his Army post last year has reached a plea deal with prosecutors to avoid the death penalty, one of his lawyers said on Wednesday.

Robert Bales, a decorated veteran of four combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, is accused of gunning down villagers, mostly women and children, in attacks on their family compounds in Kandahar province in March 2012.

Lawyer Emma Scanlan said in an email that Bales would plead guilty to premeditated murder charges and would then go before a military jury for sentencing to determine whether a life sentence for his crimes would include the possibility of parole.

“There will be a jury for the sentencing phase beginning in August,” Scanlan said.

Army prosecutors, who had sought the death penalty, have said Bales acted alone and with chilling premeditation when, armed with a pistol, a rifle and a grenade launcher, he left his base twice in the night, returning in the middle of his rampage to tell a fellow soldier: “I just shot up some people.”

The shootings marked the worst case of civilian slaughter blamed on a rogue U.S. soldier since the Vietnam War and further eroded strained U.S.-Afghan relations after more than a decade of conflict in that country.

More at link
 
The US soldier who murdered 16 Afghan villagers last year has been sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Staff Sgt Robert Bales, 40, opened fire on men, children and women during the attack in Kandahar on 11 March 2012.

The father of two pleaded guilty in June to avoid the death penalty.

He apologised during his sentencing hearing at a Washington state military base on Thursday, calling the attack an "act of cowardice".

Sgt Bales had been making a case for why he should one day be eligible for parole, which would have meant he could have been released in 20 years ....
BBC, 23 Aug 13
 
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