Politics in 2017

[mariomike]

For anyone interested,

Ottawa’s reigning political selfie junkie is not who you think
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawas-reigning-political-selfie-junkie-is-not-who-you-think/

 

[The Bread Guy]

Back over to team red  ;D

1)  I wonder how far back it can go?

... "Bombardier established its strategy a long time ago, with the federal government as the milch cow," said one academic, who spoke on condition he not be named because of his ties to people with Bombardier connections.

"It really started during the Mulroney era and has continued through the Chrétien regime." ...

2)  Just like the New Veterans Charter, if only there had been a government in place, ideally a majority government, to do things differently, or to do the right thing -- you continue it without stopping or changing it, it's now yours.
Blue Team, up?  ;D

To be fair to both teams, I think columnist Chantal Hebert sums up Canada's relationship with Bombardier quite well ...

It has long been taken for granted that no prime minister, no Quebec premier would ever let Bombardier go under on his or her watch ...

When it comes to Bombardier, as others smarter than me have said, Liberal, Tory, same old story ...

 

[Kirkhill]

A "basket" of goods and services
...that cost: $8.70 in 1983
...would cost: $19.87 in 2017

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/related/inflation-calculator/

The aerospace industry in Canada has exploded to $20.3-billion today from $8.7-billion in sales in 1983.

The number of Canadians employed in the industry has jumped to 91,500 over the same period from 53,000. Bombardier is a big part of that.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/bombardier-ties-with-ottawa-run-deep/article25429432/

I wonder if the 8.7 to 20.3 is adjusted for inflation?  If not then the industry is not booming but has marked time while becoming 42% less productive. 

 

[Joey867]

I personally think that the government should stop wasting its time buying public entities and successful natural resources. It should save money to buy Bombardier, finance&restructure it for a 50 yr contract so it'll be a long time until this happens again.


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[ModlrMike]

So Donald Trump makes a crude remark about women and he's the devil incarnate, but Wab Kinew can sell records rife with misogyny and homophobia, but everything's OK because he apologized, and he's a socialist.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, or

Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye.

 

[George Wallace]

I personally think that the government should stop wasting its time buying public entities and successful natural resources. It should save money to buy Bombardier, finance&restructure it for a 50 yr contract so it'll be a long time until this happens again.


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How about; if a company can't show itself of NOT being profitable for a period of three or more decades, it NOT get Public Bailouts and die a natural death ??

 

[Retired AF Guy]

............... but Wab Kinew can sell records rife with misogyny and homophobia, but everything's OK because he apologized, and he's a socialist.

Who???

 

[FSTO]

Who???

NDP MLA in Manitoba. He is a candidate for leadership of the NDP in that province.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

NDP MLA in Manitoba. He is a candidate for leadership of the NDP in that province.

Also used to work for the CBC.

Go figure.

 

[Joey867]

How about; if a company can't show itself of NOT being profitable for a period of three or more decades, it NOT get Public Bailouts and die a natural death ??

Good point. That would be common sense. 30 years definitely sounds like a fair amount of time for bombardier


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[Oldgateboatdriver]

All right: I just have to let some serious steam off now:

I've had it with that S.O.B. Prime Minister who thinks he OWNS the friggin Parliament for his personal and family enjoyment.

We have a new honorific citizen, Malalla. A well deserved honour. But the PM's wife is NOT, underline NOT a member of Parliament and has absolutely no business whatsoever being on the floor of the Commons with ther husband. She can be in the gallery, in prominent place,  but the floor is for Parliamentarians (which includes the senators) and the officials of Parliament only.

Who does she think she is ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

If she wants to go there: stand for office and get elected or get the hell out.

P.S.: I am quite disappointed in the person who does "own" the Commons, the president, for not sending a page over to the PM just before the beginning of the proceedings to gently prod him on the fact that it would now be appropriate for his spouse to repair to the gallery.


/RANT OFF.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Exactly what I thought when I saw her down there.

 

[jollyjacktar]

Careful now, you'll bring some clouds into those sunny skies,  I mean ways.  Maybe some tears from some too.  :nod:

 

[Loachman]

Bombard's Body Language: Justin Trudeau On North Korea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvG1uzfwHbk

She's done a couple of assessments of PM Selfie's appearances before, and I've posted the links. I find them accurate and painfully humorous.

 

[jmt18325]

All right: I just have to let some serious steam off now:

I've had it with that S.O.B. Prime Minister who thinks he OWNS the friggin Parliament for his personal and family enjoyment.

We have a new honorific citizen, Malalla. A well deserved honour. But the PM's wife is NOT, underline NOT a member of Parliament and has absolutely no business whatsoever being on the floor of the Commons with ther husband. She can be in the gallery, in prominent place,  but the floor is for Parliamentarians (which includes the senators) and the officials of Parliament only.

Who does she think she is ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

If she wants to go there: stand for office and get elected or get the hell out.

P.S.: I am quite disappointed in the person who does "own" the Commons, the president, for not sending a page over to the PM just before the beginning of the proceedings to gently prod him on the fact that it would now be appropriate for his spouse to repair to the gallery.


/RANT OFF.

Perhaps you haven't ever watched an address to parliament? Perhaps your outrage is a little late?

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/simerg.com/2014/03/01/in-a-dynamic-and-stirring-address-to-members-of-the-canadian-parliament-his-highness-the-aga-khan-shares-his-faith-perspectives-on-the-imamat-collaboration-with-canada-the-muslim-world-community-t/amp/

The Supreme Court Justices and many invited guests are also there.  The Justices and Senators also sit in the commons chamber on the floor (well, in chairs).  The chamber is not in session, and is used as an auditorium for the address.  To put it bluntly, you know not of what you speak.

 

[Remius]

All right: I just have to let some serious steam off now:

I've had it with that S.O.B. Prime Minister who thinks he OWNS the friggin Parliament for his personal and family enjoyment.

We have a new honorific citizen, Malalla. A well deserved honour. But the PM's wife is NOT, underline NOT a member of Parliament and has absolutely no business whatsoever being on the floor of the Commons with ther husband. She can be in the gallery, in prominent place,  but the floor is for Parliamentarians (which includes the senators) and the officials of Parliament only.

Who does she think she is ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

If she wants to go there: stand for office and get elected or get the hell out.

P.S.: I am quite disappointed in the person who does "own" the Commons, the president, for not sending a page over to the PM just before the beginning of the proceedings to gently prod him on the fact that it would now be appropriate for his spouse to repair to the gallery.


/RANT OFF.

Good rant but a bit (actually very) off.  This is neither unprecedented nor is it innapropriate.  While I agree that both are media hogs that are very photogenic, your assessment and disappointed in who you think owns the Commons is misplaced and way off base.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

All right: I just have to let some serious steam off now:

I've had it with that S.O.B. Prime Minister who thinks he OWNS the friggin Parliament for his personal and family enjoyment.

We have a new honorific citizen, Malalla. A well deserved honour. But the PM's wife is NOT, underline NOT a member of Parliament and has absolutely no business whatsoever being on the floor of the Commons with ther husband. She can be in the gallery, in prominent place,  but the floor is for Parliamentarians (which includes the senators) and the officials of Parliament only.

Who does she think she is ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

If she wants to go there: stand for office and get elected or get the hell out.

P.S.: I am quite disappointed in the person who does "own" the Commons, the president, for not sending a page over to the PM just before the beginning of the proceedings to gently prod him on the fact that it would now be appropriate for his spouse to repair to the gallery.


/RANT OFF.

Shocking!

 

[McG]

Don't let facts get in the way of good old partisan outrage.

 

[dapaterson]

It's only outrageous when the other side does it.

 

[Blair Gilmore]

I'm not a particular fan of Trudeau's government but doing away with prohibition of a common plant is long overdue. The anti-drug warriors are fighting a losing battle and are firmly entrenched after a century of propaganda, alarmist hyperbole and political obstinance. Also, I believe Kellie Leitch's stand against the weed will hurt her chances of becoming the Conservative leader.

In honour of 420, for your reading pleasure, here are my full thoughts on the matter of marijuana and prohibition:

http://www.happydiver.space/?p=380