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Female student auctioning off virginity to pay for grad school sparks debate

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Strike said:
Okay, so let's say she's not from Nevada.  There's still a huge amount of press involved in this and you can bet that her former school knows about this and will be contacted by her future school for a reference.  I doubt she will be able to go around without being discovered.


Yes and I'll bet that you'll not be the Lawyer taking her case against the University for Discrimination if it comes to that.

And to all the nice girls who took the Toyota Route, I wonder how many of you never even got a phone call the next day.

 
ballz said:
Well one of those photos looks rediculously photoshopped for starters.

But anyway, 22 yrs old, been through university, and looking anything REMOTELY like that?

People, that million dollars might be able to buy you a lot of things but it aint buying a v-card...





And if it is, she doesn't look like that good...


WHAT IS EXACTLLY YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY ????
 
211RadOp said:
Darn staight I would...She's not even allowed to date until she's thirty


Oh how soon we forget, Ooops, I forgot, you never owned a Toyota.
 
FastEddy said:


WHAT IS EXACTLLY YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY ????

That he doesn't "buy" her "V" claim; and, that even if he did - she's not his type anyway.  ;)
 
FastEddy said:


Oh how soon we forget, Ooops, I forgot, you never owned a Toyota.

Ooops, miss read the statement...edit to delete my response.

And I did own a Toyota, but it was more interesting in the Civic!!  ;D
 
Her body and what she does with it is her business.  She is not the first woman that has taken a similar route to pay for their education and she won't be the last.  If I was her father I might have a hard time with it but in the end what can you do.
 
Umm...virgin,..yea...OK,.....maybe I should have some "reconstuctive" surgury and she can buy mine. :-*
 
kincanucks said:
...but in the end what can you do.

Wait 3 months until after "the deed" is done; then all you boys who can't afford her ... will be able to fork out a mere 11.95 to see her in the million dollar paycheque Playboy Spread that will follow. I'll guarantee it.

Have no idea how I'll pay you off if I lose, but I'm thinking that I won't.
 
Bruce Monkhouse said:
Umm...virgin,..yea...OK,.....maybe I should have some "reconstuctive" surgury and she can buy mine. :-*

Too many comments out in the public domain about your aging porn star status --- you'd never be able to pull off such a scam.

I bet 'cha a pickle.  ;)
 
Tommy said:
Even if i had the money I wouldnt pay.....

I wouldnt want to give her the satisfaction or ego boost of thinking she can do that...

cause lets face it... if a guy tried that he wouldnt get enough money to buy a Lg DD at Timmys.....

and if she was ugly she probabbly wouldnt even get airtime in the media....

I say she's not even worthy of the news space... there are women out there every day getting money for sex... they are prostitutes... just like her.... where are their 15 minutes of fame?


Ultimately... I feel sorry for her parents... clearly, they failed....


Tommy, you're so far out in left field, we are going to have to send a search party out for you.

1.  I don't think you have to worry about that problem.

2.  If you have a chat with a Psychologist, that its not a Ego thing, just the opposite.

3.  Obviously you haven't heard about Male Prostitutes or Escorts who cater to both genders.

4.  Having collared John's who have illegally engaged or solicited in the Sex Trade, you'd be surprised just what they were prepared to shell out good money for.

5.  Having Professionally dealt with a number of the Ladies of the Night you'd be very surprised at the varied reasons that have driven them onto the Streets. Certainly not their 15 minutes of Fame.

6.  Their Parents failed, in the bounds of all civility, I won't even start to reply to that.   
 
Bruce Monkhouse said:
Umm...virgin,..yea...OK,.....maybe I should have some "reconstuctive" surgury and she can buy mine. :-*

Can you surgically "reconstruct" a shattered moral compass and misspent youth?    ;D
 
“ Does anyone else have trouble believing someone willing to pay $250,000 for sex would ever be able to cough it up? Remember, Eliot Spitzer’s six-monthaffair with Ashley DiPietro cost “only” $15,000 (and his job)

Virginity became prized with the advent of private ownership.  As men began to leave an inheritance, requiring virginity and the chastity of women was the only way to ensure the paternity of their offspring.  In this we can see the biological imperative to reproduce taking precedence over the so-called male need for sex. Of course men did allow themselves an out.  By actively supporting prostitution they can participate in "meaningless" sex, and then return home to a proper domesticated wife.  Each woman plays a key role in maintaining patriarchy by serving male needs.  Although each woman is significant to a mans life, their value is based solely on their vaginas, and the pleasure or status that it provides.

Men are not encouraged to remain chaste, in fact their male status is heightened by their ability to have sex with various partners.  Men are socialized to consume, and women are socialized to submit.

While I fully respect Dylan's choice, I must wonder how many women will be forced to make similar decisions because of the sudden poverty that they find themselves in?  There is a difference between choosing prostitution because you need the money, versus wanting the money.  The terrible part about this is that no one will rail against a government that refuses to provide education, which is a human right. Dylan will be slut shamed, and left with a spoiled identity. Good luck to you Natalie, but I certainly hope that some significant changes occur, so that women will no longer have to make the "choice" that you did.

There is already a spike in women selling their eggs, and now we can add virginity auctioning to the latest specifically female attempt to manage economic disparity.  As the economy continues to worsen, I suspect we will see more and more cases like this.

She'll probably get a couple of thousand $ from some sick weirdo, who she'll later need to get a restraining order against.

There are other ways apart from prostitution and the back seat of a car to loose your virginity.”


 
Puss~in~Boots said:
..........  The terrible part about this is that no one will rail against a government that refuses to provide education, which is a human right.

Education is a human right?  Interesting.  I never knew that.  In fact there are very few things that I can think of as being a human Right.  As a matter of fact, too many are claiming Rights to do many things, such as join the Military, or go to university.  In fact the universities are "Dumbing Down" due to this feeling of "entitlement" people have today.


Puss~in~Boots said:
Dylan will be slut shamed, and left with a spoiled identity.  If you have any doubt about the slut shaming, just read the commentary posted on the first link that I provided.  Good luck to you Natalie, but I certainly hope that some significant changes occur, so that women will no longer have to make the "choice" that you did.

Perhaps in your Puritanical part of North America, but those feelings are not shared in other societies around the World.  Even Europeans don't hold these opinions.  Many European women have paid their way through university working in brothels.
 
I’d be curious to know more about how you state that universities are “dumbing down”. 

And yes, education is a human right but like health care, only the rich will be able to educate themselves in the future, especially in the states.

Good point and I have very different views and opinions on this subject.
It could spark numerous discussions about many things.
 
Puss~in~Boots said:
I’d be curious to know more about how you state that universities are “dumbing down”. 

It has been a common problem that was first addressed in the 1970's when surveys showed that universities were graduating functionally illiterate students.  It is easy to see that the situation hasn't changed, and perhaps has worsened, by just reading the posts on this site by supposed university graduates.  We have had dozens of such personalities on this site, wanting to become officers, but who couldn't construct a coherent sentence or even use correct spelling to communicate their questions or demonstrate their abilities.

[EDIT to add]

Puss~in~Boots said:
And yes, education is a human right but like health care, only the rich will be able to educate themselves in the future, especially in the states.


I will agree in part.  All Canadians should be given Primary education.  I think that the Government's responsibility ends when a student graduates High School.  University or College is a privilege that those who have the skills to attend should have open to them.  Do we as a nation have to fully fund university education?  No.  Those who are ambitious enough to will find the resources to do so on their own.  Those who are resourceful, may not need to go to university to make their fortunes working for someone else.  They are the entrepreneurs, who will create their own futures, as their own bosses;  the K.C. Irvings, the Bill Gates, etc. of the world.

A university education is just a piece of paper that one can use to acquire a job working for someone else a little quicker than a person without that piece of paper hanging on a wall.


 
Puss~in~Boots said:
I’d be curious to know more about how you state that universities are “dumbing down”. 

And yes, education is a human right but like health care, only the rich will be able to educate themselves in the future, especially in the states.

Good point and I have very different views and opinions on this subject.
It could spark numerous discussions about many things.

Post-secondary education is not a right, nor is it an "entitlement". You want it? You pay - plain and simple really.

Last time I checked, education up to the High School Diploma certainly IS covered by the public coffers which are filled up by taxpayers money. Ergo --- you can get it for free if you want it. What seems to be the issue? You want more than the basics, so figure someone else should pay?
 
Education is an individual responsibility. NOT a right. As human beings, we should all be striving to better ourselves anyway we can, this precludes hand outs to those unwilling to work towards it.

Is college/university expensive? Yes. However it is not out of reach. Those that are willing do, and do so without any dumbing down. Those that are unwilling, mew and complain about the cost of higher education, instead of actually going out, getting a job or two, and working through it. "Survival of the fittest" would be the working operative here. Anything else...

And this is coming from a fella that would approve of a more socialist approach to education. Education and health care are two subjects I am "left leaning" on.
 
Puss~in~Boots said:
  The terrible part about this is that no one will rail against a government that refuses to provide education, which is a human right..

Wow........I guess I'm just a poor battered hapless Canadian refugee then with my measly 11 credits.
I feel so violated.

"Where's my lawyer?"
 
Puss~in~Boots said:
And yes, education is a human right but like health care,

Official sources please.


Canadian Bill of Rights
1960, c. 44
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/C-12.3///en?page=1

Recognition and declaration of rights and freedoms

1. It is hereby recognized and declared that in Canada there have existed and shall continue to exist without discrimination by reason of race, national origin, colour, religion or sex, the following human rights and fundamental freedoms, namely,

(a) the right of the individual to life, liberty, security of the person and enjoyment of property, and the right not to be deprived thereof except by due process of law;

(b) the right of the individual to equality before the law and the protection of the law;

(c) freedom of religion;

(d) freedom of speech;

(e) freedom of assembly and association; and

(f) freedom of the press.


I can't find post-secondary education in that list, even if some who go to university never achieve more than sub-paras d and e.
 
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