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CF Pay Raise 2009/2010

dapaterson said:
Planned?  Not really.  More of the ability of DND/CF to assemble required documentation, negotiate with staff in the Treasury Board Secretariat, get a slot before Treasury Board, get TB approval, then announce.  Remember, over the summer much of gov't slows down to a crawl because TB rarely sits - so if it's not approved by 31 May you're probably looking at 30 Sept in a best-case scenario.

sure -you stick with the logic and official story - I'll go with the conspiracy theory.  >:D  (forgot the big smiley on prior)
 
??? I thought the pay raise always was tied to the civil servants (unless it is a catch up to the civil servants pay scale for similar type jobs). It seems that recently the pay raise was exactly the same. So the Treasury board stuff is smoke and mirrors. Having sat or is that slept through meetings the boards decision is made and no one fights on behalf of the military. yes there are budgetary constraints however one can argue that due to the ongoing conflict overseas, assisting with natural disasters domestically, assisiting with the olympics, chasing pirates etc the forces personnel deserve more than an AS-2 filing all day or an EX 2 attenidng meetings for a living.
 
Spike:  You thought wrong.  TB, a meeting of cabinet ministers, is the decision making body.  DND/CF brings forward requests for changes to compensation and benefits.  The ministers, briefed by staff on impacts, make decisions.  Sometimes, those increases are similar to those of the public service.  Sometimes (as in the late 90s/early 00s) they far outstrip those given to the PS.

There is a set of FAQs on the website for the Director, Pay Policy Development.  It might be worth your while to read it to get a better understanding of how the system works.

Besides, the CF benefits package includes several non-pay items that are extremely rewarding, including the current leave package (with 5 years in, 11 stat, 25 annual and 2 special days at xmas); pensionable with 25 years of service; 60/40 employer/member split for pension contributions...
 
dapaterson said:
Besides, the CF benefits package includes several non-pay items that are extremely rewarding, including the current leave package (with 5 years in, 11 stat, 25 annual and 2 special days at xmas); pensionable with 25 years of service; 60/40 employer/member split for pension contributions...

Free dental and medical.....
 
maybe you should also look at the job descriptions and pay rates.

A Cpl sitting in the office with the AS-2 does make more and if the AS-2 is just filing all day that is a management issue not pay issue.

As for EX 2 - guess that means you should be paid more than all the senior officers out there as they are their counterparts in the military.

Pay raises are in a way tied to the PS in that if they receive a 1.5% increase then we can expect to receive around the same amount.  Everything they receive in their contract is taken into account when our compensation package is reviewed.  The PS also looks at our package when negotiating their own.  Anyone else remember the stink raised in 2001(? may be off a year) when the military received the pay adjustment? PS cried foul in that the military was receiving a second pay increase that was a lot more than theirs. 
 
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