US to close fast food in Afghan bases - Timmies & Greenbean will stay
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And it would be even better if they were still in it.
OldSolduer
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Technoviking said:Agreed.
Agreed as well. Lets remember what's important. My 2 cents
Jarnhamar
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KAF types complain about how hard life is in KAF.
FOB types complain about how great life is in KAF then when in KAF bitch about it and complain how much they miss the FOB.
Combat arms types bitch about support types getting the same danger pay as them.
Infantry types bitch about doing infantry things.
Clerk types bitch about doing clerk things.
Soldiers bitch about not seeing enough action. (We never get to do shit!)
Soldiers bitch about seeing too much action. (Why doesn't someone else get to do shit!)
BUT, we all bitch about the fast food places being closed down ;D (Okay well most!)
FOB types complain about how great life is in KAF then when in KAF bitch about it and complain how much they miss the FOB.
Combat arms types bitch about support types getting the same danger pay as them.
Infantry types bitch about doing infantry things.
Clerk types bitch about doing clerk things.
Soldiers bitch about not seeing enough action. (We never get to do shit!)
Soldiers bitch about seeing too much action. (Why doesn't someone else get to do shit!)
BUT, we all bitch about the fast food places being closed down ;D (Okay well most!)
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Apollo,
Well said and demonstrated. Sometimes we need to be reminded that we're all 99% the same and on the same team; not enemies.
Well said and demonstrated. Sometimes we need to be reminded that we're all 99% the same and on the same team; not enemies.
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Apollo Diomedes said:
Summary: It's a soldier's right to b****, and we exercise that on a minute by minute basis.
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Strike said:
You should have seen the lines when the fries came back -- good lord it was ridiculous!
Funny though, how all the fast food places on the boardwalk could get fries but none of the messes could! ;D
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Last time I was there Supreme had steak, lobster tails, and popcorn shrimp on the menu. It was the best food I've had in Afghanistan by far. And between the Becks near beer, cliff bars, jack links jerky and energy drinks, I'd say it's still a goldmine for snacks.Illegio said:
Keep in mind it's not a Canadian FOB anymore...
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http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/10/military-fast-food-afghanistan-petraeus-100610w/
Petraeus lets fast food back into Afghanistan
By Karen Jowers - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Oct 6, 2010 18:50:39 EDT
The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan has given the green light to bring fast food and other concessions back to Afghanistan.
“These quality-of-life programs remain important to soldiers for stress relief and therefore enhancing military readiness,” Gen. David Petraeus wrote in an Oct. 4 order.
The ultimate goal of restoring these concessions to Afghanistan, he wrote, is “boosting residents’ morale on U.S. bases.”
Information was not immediately available from Army and Air Force Exchange Service officials on a timeline for returning the concessions to Afghanistan, once commanders request that specific concessions be reopened.
The order rescinds a closure order issued Feb. 3 by former Afghanistan commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who directed 50 AAFES concessionaires to close within 90 days following a review of morale, welfare and recreation activities within the war zone.
“MWR should never be the distracter that changes the focus of the mission,” McChrystal wrote in his order, which he described as an effort “to reduce the MWR/QOL [quality of life] footprint” in the Afghanistan theater of operations.
In his new order, Petraeus noted that AAFES concessions must be “right-sized and tailored for an expeditionary force in order to ensure that they do not become distractions to the mission.”
Prior to McChrystal’s order, AAFES operated 141 eateries and shops in Afghanistan. After the May closures, 84 remained. Among the 57 closed were Burger King, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and Popeyes restaurants, as well as new-car sales offices, jewelry, perfume and souvenir shops.
Petraeus reiterated in his Oct. 4 order that exchange concessions operate in contingency environments at the request of the combatant commander and subordinate commands. “It is a unit commander’s decision, driven by space and support, to determine if and where these facilities would reopen,” he wrote.
As before, concession contractors transport equipment and supplies at their own expense through a commercial entity.
Petraeus lets fast food back into Afghanistan
By Karen Jowers - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Oct 6, 2010 18:50:39 EDT
The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan has given the green light to bring fast food and other concessions back to Afghanistan.
“These quality-of-life programs remain important to soldiers for stress relief and therefore enhancing military readiness,” Gen. David Petraeus wrote in an Oct. 4 order.
The ultimate goal of restoring these concessions to Afghanistan, he wrote, is “boosting residents’ morale on U.S. bases.”
Information was not immediately available from Army and Air Force Exchange Service officials on a timeline for returning the concessions to Afghanistan, once commanders request that specific concessions be reopened.
The order rescinds a closure order issued Feb. 3 by former Afghanistan commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who directed 50 AAFES concessionaires to close within 90 days following a review of morale, welfare and recreation activities within the war zone.
“MWR should never be the distracter that changes the focus of the mission,” McChrystal wrote in his order, which he described as an effort “to reduce the MWR/QOL [quality of life] footprint” in the Afghanistan theater of operations.
In his new order, Petraeus noted that AAFES concessions must be “right-sized and tailored for an expeditionary force in order to ensure that they do not become distractions to the mission.”
Prior to McChrystal’s order, AAFES operated 141 eateries and shops in Afghanistan. After the May closures, 84 remained. Among the 57 closed were Burger King, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and Popeyes restaurants, as well as new-car sales offices, jewelry, perfume and souvenir shops.
Petraeus reiterated in his Oct. 4 order that exchange concessions operate in contingency environments at the request of the combatant commander and subordinate commands. “It is a unit commander’s decision, driven by space and support, to determine if and where these facilities would reopen,” he wrote.
As before, concession contractors transport equipment and supplies at their own expense through a commercial entity.
Afghan Forces Eat Up Return of Fast Food
FEBRUARY 22, 2011, 2:41 A.M. ET
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By MATTHEW ROSENBERG
KABUL—U.S. forces may be planning a drawdown from Afghanistan in coming months, but in at least one area they're busy expanding their girth: junk food.
Nearly a year after fast-food joints were tossed off U.S.-led coalition bases, Pizza Hut made a comeback last week, reopening at Camp Phoenix on the edge of Kabul. The restaurant—really just a takeout trailer—"fired up its ovens and opened its doors to anxious service members wanting a 'taste of home,' " declared a statement from U.S. Forces-Afghanistan. The press release included fuzzy snapshots of smiling soldiers digging into fresh pizza.
Another Pizza Hut will soon be opening at Bagram Air Field northeast of Kabul, alongside one of the other once-exiled fast-food franchises, a Burger King, U.S. Forces said.
The return of fast-food outlets is the latest sign of the changes made by U.S. Gen. David Petraeus, who took over command of U.S. and coalition forces in June 2010. Most have dealt with far weightier matters: relaxing rules of engagement for troops, increasing airstrikes and the tempo of secretive Special Operations missions to kill or capture insurgent commanders, and striking new alliances with controversial warlords.
But few of Gen. Petraeus's changes will likely prove as popular with the troops as the return of fast food. U.S. soldiers and Marines are a young bunch, many of them raised around the ever-present fast-food outlets of America. Nearly all are eager to complain about how quickly mess-hall fare, provided by defense contractors, gets old.
Back before Gen. Petraeus's predecessor, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, imposed the ban in March 2010, the lines for the Burger King and Subway franchises at the two biggest American bases—Bagram Air Field and Kandahar Air Field—were often 20 or 30 people deep.
That is despite the fact that fast-food outlets were routinely out of ingredients because of supply problems. More than a few times, Burger King at Kandahar Air Field was down to serving only french fries.
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FEBRUARY 22, 2011, 2:41 A.M. ET
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By MATTHEW ROSENBERG
KABUL—U.S. forces may be planning a drawdown from Afghanistan in coming months, but in at least one area they're busy expanding their girth: junk food.
Nearly a year after fast-food joints were tossed off U.S.-led coalition bases, Pizza Hut made a comeback last week, reopening at Camp Phoenix on the edge of Kabul. The restaurant—really just a takeout trailer—"fired up its ovens and opened its doors to anxious service members wanting a 'taste of home,' " declared a statement from U.S. Forces-Afghanistan. The press release included fuzzy snapshots of smiling soldiers digging into fresh pizza.
Another Pizza Hut will soon be opening at Bagram Air Field northeast of Kabul, alongside one of the other once-exiled fast-food franchises, a Burger King, U.S. Forces said.
The return of fast-food outlets is the latest sign of the changes made by U.S. Gen. David Petraeus, who took over command of U.S. and coalition forces in June 2010. Most have dealt with far weightier matters: relaxing rules of engagement for troops, increasing airstrikes and the tempo of secretive Special Operations missions to kill or capture insurgent commanders, and striking new alliances with controversial warlords.
But few of Gen. Petraeus's changes will likely prove as popular with the troops as the return of fast food. U.S. soldiers and Marines are a young bunch, many of them raised around the ever-present fast-food outlets of America. Nearly all are eager to complain about how quickly mess-hall fare, provided by defense contractors, gets old.
Back before Gen. Petraeus's predecessor, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, imposed the ban in March 2010, the lines for the Burger King and Subway franchises at the two biggest American bases—Bagram Air Field and Kandahar Air Field—were often 20 or 30 people deep.
That is despite the fact that fast-food outlets were routinely out of ingredients because of supply problems. More than a few times, Burger King at Kandahar Air Field was down to serving only french fries.
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And the fate of KAF's Timmies, according to the above-linked article?
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Although the article states that Timmies had to move from it's "prime location on the boardwalk", where it is now located in the Canadian lines is a much better location for most Canadians living near it. If I was a betting man, I doubt that Timmies will be staying after Canada leaves KAF. For one thing, all of the civilian employees belong to CFPSA which belongs to NSE. No NSE, no CFPSA, nobody to run Tims.milnews.ca said:
