"The Devil's Brigade" Reality Series on History Channel
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If you go through the participants' units, you'll see the Americans are National Guard or training cadre. (I'm not sure about the Rangers, since I didn't think there were any NG Rangers [eg - one guy is listed as 2nd Bn, 75 Ranger Regt, Los Angeles - - yet the 2nd Bn is in Ft Lewis Washington]). But there doesn't appear to be a conspiracy to stack the teamsex-Sup said:
Now, about the kid who quit because the close combat training was "too intense".... :
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pipesnake said:
Exactly my point.
I was a reservist for two years and I don't think I came anywhere close to being on the same plane as SF soldier (except for the time that some US National Guard? mistook our green berets for...you get the point).
I'm long out of the loop, would there be any operational reason why Cdn reg force were not there, or did no one volunteer or was no one asked?
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I've done a lot of martial arts training in my life and that certainly was not intense. It also certainly is not cool to poke someone in the eye in any form of martial arts training as that can result in serious injury. If he had done that to me I would have given him the opportunity to see just how good his "Defendo" is.
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fbr2o75 said:
It's a figure of speach. You don't maim and destroy your own troops. Not if you want an effective fighting force. Intense training often results in injury but it should not be from a poke in the eye by your own instructor. What's the point of that? The guy could have been permanently injured for a TV show.
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The point is, he was training the guys the same way the original members were trained -- except that these guys weren/t using real knives. Or maybe you weren't listening to the comentary by the former members to catch all that.
Try doing all that training wearing wool and using (what can be considered in our day and age) sub-standard equipment. Then come back with your view.
Try doing all that training wearing wool and using (what can be considered in our day and age) sub-standard equipment. Then come back with your view.
pipesnake said:
I found it interesting. I have no infantry background, however I would think that they did more physical training then just what we saw. Don't forget they have to edit for tv and to make it interesting to the viewer, some of it would be painfully boring. As well, it's too easy to sit back and be an armchair quarterback. I just hope they do justice to the original guys themselves. Regs or reserves, who cares, I say good on them and I am looking forward to the rest of it.
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Strike said:
Sure he was training them the original way. I'm sure a lot of those old timers have the detached retinas to show for it. Give you head a shake sir. As well perhaps you haven't read the book I was referring to? They did 40 plus mile forced marches. What did they do last night? Nineteen km's if I recall. Not exactly the 40 miles the guys did in 42 is it? That's what I mean by not as intense.
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Exactly my point. Thanks Spud.
By the way pipesnake, when you answer the phone at work, you're one of the ones that says,"How can I help you, sir?" aren't you. Maybe you should stop doing that. It could get you in trouble one of these days. And could those italics be any more sarcastic? Maybe you should set them in bold next time.
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Pipe you're in a world of hurt....
Give your head a shake sir..... *giggles loudly* yup thats rigth Strike shake you head *cough* actulay I like when my piolts heads moves left and right means there doing a good look at the land to get me to the LZ as covered from view as possible, so Strike keep shaking that head ;D
Give your head a shake sir..... *giggles loudly* yup thats rigth Strike shake you head *cough* actulay I like when my piolts heads moves left and right means there doing a good look at the land to get me to the LZ as covered from view as possible, so Strike keep shaking that head ;D
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Strike, thanks for clearing that up, for a moment I thought this was going to be the thread that never ends by starting over and over again. LOL
The show was ok, but hands down, I'd rather spend the time watching the movie "Cockleshell Heroes" (which has an extra treat for me as my granpa was the movie's technical consultant when it was produced in the 50s). As my granpa used to say, "Nothing motivates you to get your arse down that 40 mile meander than a megolmaniac called Hitler!"
The show was ok, but hands down, I'd rather spend the time watching the movie "Cockleshell Heroes" (which has an extra treat for me as my granpa was the movie's technical consultant when it was produced in the 50s). As my granpa used to say, "Nothing motivates you to get your arse down that 40 mile meander than a megolmaniac called Hitler!"
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spud said:
OK perhaps you are right and that is somewhat rude and if so I apologize. It may be that I get my back up a little when an Airforce Captain infers that, essentially my opinion is not based on some form of foreknowledge.
"Try doing all that training wearing wool and using (what can be considered in our day and age) sub-standard equipment. Then come back with your view."
Aside from actually passing TQ3 and serving in an infantry regiment, I was also on the Canadian NECIC team. That means that for a period of approximately 8 months, probably comparable to the length of time 1 SSF was in Montana, I ran, forced marched, etc. any where from 5 to 20 miles a day. This is not to mention other extremely gruelling physical punishment they put us through that I will not go into detail here. Suffice to say of the dozens that tried out I was one of the final 8 that represented Canada and competed in Germany against other NATO countries. Although we came in 3rd to the English and also Dutch Royal Marine Commandos we were actually more fit than either and lost for other reasons.
In other words I am basing my opinion regarding the show not only on a the book that I read but on my own experiences.
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Good show, Brother.
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