Well, according to a couple reports, US aircraft are sitting on the tarmac because they can't find much worth bombing. So the addition of 6 (7) CF-18s isn't really contributing is it? If we ARE really concerned about the plight of civilians on the ground, we should look at what gaps need to be filled, and then fill them.
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The threat of airstrikes reduces the effectiveness of ISIS, allowing opposing forces to stand up to them. So they are effective even when not bombing, plus there is also the collection of intel that will help the Kurds and Iraqi Army fight them.
A 5 second Google search shows we have already donated 16 million worth of humanitarian aid this year alone to the Iraqi refugees. they should keep their shiny pony in a petting zoo where he can't do any real harm.
A 5 second Google search shows we have already donated 16 million worth of humanitarian aid this year alone to the Iraqi refugees. they should keep their shiny pony in a petting zoo where he can't do any real harm.
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Where are they??Kilo_302 said:
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Its not?
Should be.
Should be.
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Any electoral brownie points he hoped to make by declaring his stance on marijuana (which I personally don't agree with but I'm not the one trying to get elected PM) gets eroded by every other time he opens his mouth. He's in over his head and when combined with Mulcair's declaration that Bibeau's actions were not terrorism are just setting Harper up for re-election.
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Kilo_302 said:
Is this a serious post?
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/somnia/article21473466/
“ISIS can only expand in areas where it can enter into partnerships with the local population, and that largely limits the scope of the expansion of ISIS to Sunni, disenfranchised areas,” said Lina Khatib, the director of the Carnegie Middle East Center in Beirut.
It is in Iraq, where coalition forces began bombing in August, that the Islamic State has lost the most ground. In recent weeks, combinations of Iraqi government units, Kurdish peshmerga forces, Shiite militias and armed Sunni tribesmen have seized the Rabia crossing with Syria; taken back the area of Zumar in the north and Jurf al-Sakr south of Baghdad; opened crucial roads in the country’s center; and held off Islamic State advances elsewhere.
For the first time since the jihadists seized Mosul and much of northwestern Iraq in June, an Iraqi military vehicle can drive from Baghdad to the northern city of Irbil on a main highway.
Hisham Alhashimi, an Iraqi researcher and an expert on the Islamic State, said those changes had broken up the group’s territory, making it harder for it to move its forces and for its couriers to relay messages among the leadership and the field commanders.
“ISIS can only expand in areas where it can enter into partnerships with the local population, and that largely limits the scope of the expansion of ISIS to Sunni, disenfranchised areas,” said Lina Khatib, the director of the Carnegie Middle East Center in Beirut.
It is in Iraq, where coalition forces began bombing in August, that the Islamic State has lost the most ground. In recent weeks, combinations of Iraqi government units, Kurdish peshmerga forces, Shiite militias and armed Sunni tribesmen have seized the Rabia crossing with Syria; taken back the area of Zumar in the north and Jurf al-Sakr south of Baghdad; opened crucial roads in the country’s center; and held off Islamic State advances elsewhere.
For the first time since the jihadists seized Mosul and much of northwestern Iraq in June, an Iraqi military vehicle can drive from Baghdad to the northern city of Irbil on a main highway.
Hisham Alhashimi, an Iraqi researcher and an expert on the Islamic State, said those changes had broken up the group’s territory, making it harder for it to move its forces and for its couriers to relay messages among the leadership and the field commanders.
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An astute political move no doubt designed to curry favour within the Quebec textile industry... or not
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If aircraft are sitting on the ground due to lack of targets it mostly indicates that ISIS fighters have learned to disperse and hide much better than the Taliban or Free Syrian Army (two other forces which suffered much from enemy airpower). The obvious follow up is boots on the ground to root them out of their hiding places, but there isn't a "Northern Alliance", or a remotely competent local army waiting in the wings to be unleashed, so ISIS can stay hidden like rats and cockroaches until the Allies pack up their airplanes and go home.
Of course, the Young Dauphin misses the point that we also need "boots on the ground" to ensure that toques and parkas go to where they are needed and to the people who need them. His strategic thinking is on par with a clever and well meaning six year old....
Of course, the Young Dauphin misses the point that we also need "boots on the ground" to ensure that toques and parkas go to where they are needed and to the people who need them. His strategic thinking is on par with a clever and well meaning six year old....
Surely clothing the locals implies [snow] boots on the ground, including establishing a local control apparatus to issue the parkas, toques, mittens, etc to individuals and families instead of turning them over to the local thrift shop. Or does JT intend to merely insert the gear into the local distribution system, which could result in it being sold on the black market at whatever the market will bear. His statement suggests he is talking about teaching the locals how to shovel snow and scrape windshields and . . .
The whole thing has the air of something dreamed up on the fly. Maybe it gives a whole new meaning to snow job.
The whole thing has the air of something dreamed up on the fly. Maybe it gives a whole new meaning to snow job.
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Perhaps, back in the day, we should have resorted to paper snowflakes and hopscotch to stop the Nazis. I mean, if parkas and boots work for |SIS, hindsight and all that...
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Eye In The Sky said:
Maybe a nice cup of hot chocolate with a nice friendly chat.......
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This is not M. Trudeau doing an "open mouth, change feet" routine. This, coming out strong against military intervention in Iraq, is a calculated thing.
Early poling suggests that ⅔ of Canadians support going after IS**. My guess, and the Liberals' guess, too,is that number will fall off, rapidly and, if we are still there in Oct 15 support will be more like ⅓ and a consistent anti-bombing stance will have worked for the Liberals.
Early poling suggests that ⅔ of Canadians support going after IS**. My guess, and the Liberals' guess, too,is that number will fall off, rapidly and, if we are still there in Oct 15 support will be more like ⅓ and a consistent anti-bombing stance will have worked for the Liberals.
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