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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
A big problem is Canadians aren't as entrepreneurial as people in the USA, we're generally more risk adverse. Our government also does a poorer job of fostering research in industry and supporting small businesses

That.
 
I had a conversation with a neighbour of mine, a female with a young daughter under the age of 2 who's a spec ed teacher and she was going on and on how much she can't stand Trudeau and how she's going to vote for the CPC for the first time in her life. If that doesn't represent a sea of change, I don't know what does.
This is essentiially my wife. Art teacher, Social worker, Lifelong liberal. Completely disilusioned with the LPC's choices and though she's no CPC supporter, she's going to be voting NDP for the first time in her life.
 
I guess we can kiss the P-8 goodbye in favour of the bombardier without stores
I have a feeling the P-8 will still very much be on the books as a CP-140 replacement.

Justin might be an Oscar Meyer with legs, but...

  • Canada will still have 3 coastlines
  • The CP-140 will still need replacing
  • Boeing still has some customer relations work to do north of the Border

- A tentative agreement has already been discussed enough that senior public ministers have already made low key announcements through the media

- The Americans, whom I'm assuming are well informed on where things are at with this project, will want to see the deal through to conclusion



That being said...

- It wouldn't be the first time a Canadian government has opted to openly not give a shit about optics, especially the current government

- Money going to a Canadian company for a Canadian product is good optics

(Bombardier, this would be a good time to get your shit together & solidify your product as being high quality, as fuel efficient as humanly possible, and ensure it is capable of carrying & deploying weapons)

- The government saying a few weeks ago they're committed to reaching 2% of GDP on spending was a lie, we all know that

- Trudeau'a government is on its final legs, and everybody knows it. Including him. His work here, while not finished yet, has progressed far enough along that emperor Klaus will be satisfied with the performance of his agent
 
- The government saying a few weeks ago they're committed to towards reaching 2% of GDP on spending was a lie, we all know that

- Trudeau'a government is on its final legs, and everybody knows it. Including him. His work here, while not finished yet, has progressed far enough along that emperor Klaus will be satisfied with the performance of his agent
FTFY. Semantics. The gov't never committed to reaching 2%, but said they're committed towards reaching 2% of the GDP.
 
Oh you’re getting P-8’s. I’m not sure how it hasn’t been publicly announced in Canada yet, but we don’t run things through unless there is a firm agreement.
So someone in Canada inked out something.

WRT to the DND Budget, we are going to bend Canada over without lube if any attempt to drop spending goes through.
 
I was literally just about to write the exact same thing, glad I scrolled through some of the comments before writing my own

Each fiscal year, the DND has to return upwards of a billion dollars a year to the treasury as the funds are unspendable with the current regulations/guidance on DND/CAF self-directed spending




...I know this next part sounds absolutely crazy...but just hear me out...
Really hard to track the latest "unspent" numbers due to how the budget is presented but it must be near about 2 billion from pay alone with our near 20000 empty positions.

Theres also the issue of a lot of CAF cash being spent on DEI initiatives. Lots of very expensive groups having to be linked into the chain now that turn courses like Black Bear or Raven into a Ranger sized cash cow for some.
 
I don’t get the idea that that is some how an inferior way to be compensated for your time and effort than sacrificing your body working the trades

SM influencers offer no real value or skills to society. They are utterly useless.
 
Both things can be true, as long as the economy shrinks enough
Modern Problems Funny Gif GIF by MOODMAN
 
WRT to the DND Budget, we are going to bend Canada over without lube if any attempt to drop spending goes through.

Unless there is a change, the spending cut is already happening this year, with deeper cuts coming next year.
 
So what was the outcome? U.S. is no longer a shaker and mover in the global economic scene because it has a large -ve % BoT?
 
This is essentiially my wife. Art teacher, Social worker, Lifelong liberal. Completely disilusioned with the LPC's choices and though she's no CPC supporter, she's going to be voting NDP for the first time in her life.
This neighbour of mine specifically brought up Singh’s Rolex watch as the reason why she’d never vote for him.
 
MND Blair is now saying the following:

Defence Minister Bill Blair insisted Friday afternoon that any spending cuts would not impact frontline units

“Canada’s defence spending has increased year after year under our government. That spending growth will continue. We’re reviewing spending to find savings on things like consulting and travel, but overall spending on defence will continue to grow,” he said on the social media site X, formerly known as Twitter.

“Any claim that Canada is ‘cutting’ defence spending is not accurate, because overall defence spending has increased and will continue to increase."

Blair highlighted that defence spending under the Liberals has consistently grown and that new Arctic patrol ships are on duty, new F-35 fighter jets have been purchased and new warships will be under construction next year.


This seems to contrary to what the CDS and the Deputy Defence Minister are saying, from the same newspaper article:

Speaking to MPs Thursday during a meeting of the defence committee, Chief of Defence Staff Wayne Eyre was asked about proposals to cut $15 billion across the government, which the Liberals promised to do in the spring budget.

Eyre said the Defence Department’s piece of that cut will hurt.

“There’s no way that you can take almost $1 billion out of the defence budget and not have an impact, so this is something that we’re wrestling with now,” he told MPs.


I am not a mathematician but I understand simple logic. If you take $1 B from the overall budget that is a cut.

MND Blair says that the frontline units will not be affected. Perhaps not in the short term (up to one year), but much of the cuts will geared towards the bureaucratic fat in DND So what do you cut? TD? Furniture? Infrastructure maintenance? Infrastructure improvements? IT? Immediate freeze on hiring of PS? Declare PS positions redundant? Reduce contractors who normally provide specialized technical expertise to DND? Delay vehicle replacements? Delay ammunition relenishment? Reduce flying hrs, but more sim time? Reduce maintenance on B vehicle fleets? Reduce small arms replenishment - remember yelling "bang, bang" while on training? Delay or reduce Cbt clo procurement? Reduce LOGISTIK points? Review current individual entitlements for cuts?

What I am trying to say is that everything is related. Cuts in one area will affect eventually another.
 
MND Blair is now saying the following:

Defence Minister Bill Blair insisted Friday afternoon that any spending cuts would not impact frontline units

“Canada’s defence spending has increased year after year under our government. That spending growth will continue. We’re reviewing spending to find savings on things like consulting and travel, but overall spending on defence will continue to grow,” he said on the social media site X, formerly known as Twitter.

“Any claim that Canada is ‘cutting’ defence spending is not accurate, because overall defence spending has increased and will continue to increase."


Blair highlighted that defence spending under the Liberals has consistently grown and that new Arctic patrol ships are on duty, new F-35 fighter jets have been purchased and new warships will be under construction next year.


This seems to contrary to what the CDS and the Deputy Defence Minister are saying, from the same newspaper article:

Speaking to MPs Thursday during a meeting of the defence committee, Chief of Defence Staff Wayne Eyre was asked about proposals to cut $15 billion across the government, which the Liberals promised to do in the spring budget.

Eyre said the Defence Department’s piece of that cut will hurt.

“There’s no way that you can take almost $1 billion out of the defence budget and not have an impact, so this is something that we’re wrestling with now,” he told MPs.


I am not a mathematician but I understand simple logic. If you take $1 B from the overall budget that is a cut.

MND Blair says that the frontline units will not be affected. Perhaps not in the short term (up to one year), but much of the cuts will geared towards the bureaucratic fat in DND So what do you cut? TD? Furniture? Infrastructure maintenance? Infrastructure improvements? IT? Immediate freeze on hiring of PS? Declare PS positions redundant? Reduce contractors who normally provide specialized technical expertise to DND? Delay vehicle replacements? Delay ammunition relenishment? Reduce flying hrs, but more sim time? Reduce maintenance on B vehicle fleets? Reduce small arms replenishment - remember yelling "bang, bang" while on training? Delay or reduce Cbt clo procurement? Reduce LOGISTIK points? Review current individual entitlements for cuts?

What I am trying to say is that everything is related. Cuts in one area will affect eventually another.
Don't worry...I'm sure all the changes will be doubleplusgood!
 
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