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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
MND Blair is now saying the following:

Defence Minister Bill Blair insisted Friday afternoon that any spending cuts would not impact frontline units

“Canada’s defence spending has increased year after year under our government. That spending growth will continue. We’re reviewing spending to find savings on things like consulting and travel, but overall spending on defence will continue to grow,” he said on the social media site X, formerly known as Twitter.

“Any claim that Canada is ‘cutting’ defence spending is not accurate, because overall defence spending has increased and will continue to increase."


Blair highlighted that defence spending under the Liberals has consistently grown and that new Arctic patrol ships are on duty, new F-35 fighter jets have been purchased and new warships will be under construction next year.


This seems to contrary to what the CDS and the Deputy Defence Minister are saying, from the same newspaper article:

Speaking to MPs Thursday during a meeting of the defence committee, Chief of Defence Staff Wayne Eyre was asked about proposals to cut $15 billion across the government, which the Liberals promised to do in the spring budget.

Eyre said the Defence Department’s piece of that cut will hurt.

“There’s no way that you can take almost $1 billion out of the defence budget and not have an impact, so this is something that we’re wrestling with now,” he told MPs.


I am not a mathematician but I understand simple logic. If you take $1 B from the overall budget that is a cut.

MND Blair says that the frontline units will not be affected. Perhaps not in the short term (up to one year), but much of the cuts will geared towards the bureaucratic fat in DND So what do you cut? TD? Furniture? Infrastructure maintenance? Infrastructure improvements? IT? Immediate freeze on hiring of PS? Declare PS positions redundant? Reduce contractors who normally provide specialized technical expertise to DND? Delay vehicle replacements? Delay ammunition relenishment? Reduce flying hrs, but more sim time? Reduce maintenance on B vehicle fleets? Reduce small arms replenishment - remember yelling "bang, bang" while on training? Delay or reduce Cbt clo procurement? Reduce LOGISTIK points? Review current individual entitlements for cuts?

What I am trying to say is that everything is related. Cuts in one area will affect eventually another.
I also suspect that as soon as the cuts got announced that certain phone lines started buzzing from allies.
 
I also suspect that as soon as the cuts got announced that certain phone lines started buzzing from allies.
I'm certain the announcement becoming as public as it did may have been a smart tactical play by the CDS/DM team.

We haven't heard anything else about other departments cutting their budgets...
 
"Canada’s defence spending has increased year after year under our government."

It's not clear that this is true if amounts are adjusted for inflation and population. And if failure to grow for inflation and population is a "cut" when conservatives are in charge, it's a "cut" for anyone who ever used/uses that definition, also.
 
What I am constantly surprised are the seemingly continual string of failures by the fed gov't.

Are the staffers and bureaucrats not doing their work in warning and protecting the leader? Are the staff and bureaucrats incompetent? Are they just sycophants? Are the responsible ones still there and trying to keep mistakes from getting worse - much like the CDS is trying to do within the DND/CAF?

Is the PM's self assurance and arrogance such that he ignores the advice and does what he wants?

I tend to think that this is due to PM Trudeau's hubris, much like his father. In summary:

L'État, c'est moi (I myself am the nation)

 
It’s almost like someone should pass along these news articles along to all Republican Presidential candidates and say, ‘Care to comment on this?’
Nothing good comes for Canada by inculcating a predisposition to beat on Canada within the Republican Party sense of who it is. Not even in cases where we should do better.
 
What I am constantly surprised are the seemingly continual string of failures by the fed gov't.

Are the staffers and bureaucrats not doing their work in warning and protecting the leader? Are the staff and bureaucrats incompetent? Are they just sycophants? Are the responsible ones still there and trying to keep mistakes from getting worse - much like the CDS is trying to do within the DND/CAF?

Is the PM's self assurance and arrogance such that he ignores the advice and does what he wants?

I tend to think that this is due to PM Trudeau's hubris, much like his father. In summary:

L'État, c'est moi (I myself am the nation)

Maybe part of it is reaction to the whole “budgets will balance themselves” thing and spending during Covid. Remember how CPC and others were bashing on how the LPC spending was unsustainable?

Maybe Minister Anand took a look at the books when she got into her current job and said “whoa - ok we have to cut spending”.
 
Maybe part of it is reaction to the whole “budgets will balance themselves” thing and spending during Covid. Remember how CPC and others were bashing on how the LPC spending was unsustainable?
To be fair, the LPC spending plan was sustainable under the assumptions they were using.
 

Canada’s push to axe $1B from military budget for savings will impact security: defence chief​



Trudeau said Canada will never meet NATO military spending target, leaked intel claims​


NDP against Canada increasing defence spending to hit 'arbitrary' NATO target​


In summary, we should have not been surprised by the PM Trudeau's decision to cut defence spending because if he did, the NDP would not have supported it. To be fair, Mr. Singh said that the NDP would review the tasks and ensure that the CAF was adequately funded. To be me, this means, any warlike expeditionary tasks would not be funded and a expeditionary peacekeeping force and a self defence force would be fine.
 
Unless there is a change, the spending cut is already happening this year, with deeper cuts coming next year.
What kind of masochist are you?

He already said we were going to be bent over WITHOUT LUBE...you trying to get him to start grabbing toys, too?


*I can't tell if I'm violating whatever SHARP is called now for questioning whether your a sub or not, or if I need to run to my CoC because KevinB just threatened me with what some would consider a good time? ...

man I'm confused these days...
 

Canada’s push to axe $1B from military budget for savings will impact security: defence chief​



Trudeau said Canada will never meet NATO military spending target, leaked intel claims​


NDP against Canada increasing defence spending to hit 'arbitrary' NATO target​


In summary, we should have not been surprised by the PM Trudeau's decision to cut defence spending because if he did, the NDP would not have supported it.

Again, we see domestic politicking triumphing over actual national interests and foreign policy.

The NDP couldn't lead their way out of a paper bag on the world stage (mainly because their party loyalists are anti-Everything (Israel, India, China, US, EU, you name it) so they swing for the infield every chance they can.

Unless it benefits "Canadians" it's wasteful in the minds of the NDP. It completely overlooks the fact that international cooperation benefits Canada far greater than it costs us.

NATO, NORAD, FVEYs all provide a measure of security far greater than anything we could achieve on our own. 2% is the price of admission. Maintaining our presence in the North is the price of admission. Providing combat capable effects on land, air, and sea are the price of admission.

Until we are left holding our own bag for defence, there will always be folks saying "it's too expensive!" It's an investment and like all investments, you often don't realized what it took to grow it.

My grandfather explain it as similiar to planting a tree: it takes 20 years to grow it to maturity and 30 minutes to cut it down. The shade provided lasts longer than the amount of heat it provides in the fire. Temporary heat makes sense if you're cold, but not when you need the shade more.

We need the shade, but the NDP/LPC are content revving the chainsaws none the less.
 
So what was the outcome? U.S. is no longer a shaker and mover in the global economic scene because it has a large -ve % BoT?

I know I should ignore .... I really, really do. :ROFLMAO:

If you owe the bank a billion dollars who has the problem? You or the bank?

China and Russia are making money.
So are Ireland, Norway, Singapore and Australia.
The US and the UK are losing money.
Canada's books are in balance.

China is building a navy.
Russia is waging a war.
Norway is funding Ukraine.
Australia is buying weapons.
Ireland and Singapore are banking their money.
The US and the UK appear to be struggling with the markets and are having difficulty financing all the projects they claim they want.

Canada? With Trillions of everything the market wants to buy?

My non-economist view.
 
What I am constantly surprised are the seemingly continual string of failures by the fed gov't.

Are the staffers and bureaucrats not doing their work in warning and protecting the leader? Are the staff and bureaucrats incompetent? Are they just sycophants? Are the responsible ones still there and trying to keep mistakes from getting worse - much like the CDS is trying to do within the DND/CAF?

Is the PM's self assurance and arrogance such that he ignores the advice and does what he wants? ...
While the first two points are higher than zero, I suspect the last point may be the main factor at play. Not to mention what his political advisors advise vs. what the subject matter experts advise (I'm guessing he leans more to the former than the latter).
Maybe Minister Anand took a look at the books when she got into her current job and said “whoa - ok we have to cut spending”.
Also to be fair to her, looking at one department vs. looking at all the books are different exercises, yielding different views, as we can see. Then again, I'm guessing (happy to be corrected) she decided how much each gets cut, so she still wears it - and her boss who is letting this happen.
 
What I am constantly surprised are the seemingly continual string of failures by the fed gov't.

Are the staffers and bureaucrats not doing their work in warning and protecting the leader? Are the staff and bureaucrats incompetent? Are they just sycophants? Are the responsible ones still there and trying to keep mistakes from getting worse - much like the CDS is trying to do within the DND/CAF?

Is the PM's self assurance and arrogance such that he ignores the advice and does what he wants?

I tend to think that this is due to PM Trudeau's hubris, much like his father. In summary:

L'État, c'est moi (I myself am the nation)


Span of control issues? Katie Telford only has so much bandwidth?
 
What assumptions were those? (Genuinely curious)
Whatever allowed them to believe that they could keep the rate of debt growth below the rate of GDP growth, thus slowly lessening the debt expressed as a percentage of GDP, thus slowly making the debt (whatever it might happen to be) more "affordable". Also, whatever they happened to believe about price inflation and interest rates.

All the big heads understand perfectly well the general prescription that governments should pay down debt in good times so that they can overspend during bad times, but all the contemporary big heads also want to pretend that someone else's good times should cover the bad times plus whatever extra spending the contemporary big heads want to do. Governments prefer cutting new ribbons today to maintaining and sustaining the programs of the ribbons cut yesterday. NDP have this disease worst of all, seconded by the LPC, and the LPC is dependent on the NDP. So, for today's ribbons we got tax cuts, increased transfers to some individuals, some public dental insurance, public daycare subsidies; and for yesterday's ribbons we watch publicly-funded health care and defence circle the drain.

There is no mystery about how we got to where we are, and there will be no mystery if things get worse. Rather, I'll be surprised if things suddenly get better. We needed 30 years of fiscal responsibility concensus to eliminate the downward slide and barely start moving upward before (mid-80s to mid-10s); there is no reason to believe the LPC is willing to do whatever it takes - meaning, to risk not forming government - to repeat that feat.
 
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