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General Election: Oct 21, 2019

Retired AF Guy said:
Par for course. In this case a reporter for a right-leaning think tank was refused access  access to public rallies and refused to give a reason.

I feel like the part where police asked him to leave without a reason shouldnt of happened. Police should in my opinion demand a credible reason as to why they have to remove a person who is standing in line. The fact the liberals are banning right leaning journalists just shows they arent as pen and transparent as they have lied abou....i mean told the public.
 
Should we really be concerned about the promises he keeps making? After all, he hasn't really kept any from the last four years, has he?

Except his gun confiscation, that one is doable. And at the risk of ridicule and derision, it's the next step in the move to socialism. An armed society cannot be controlled by dishonest politicians who seek to control every aspect of our lives.

Communism is the only governance that you can vote yourself into, but have to shoot your way out of.

Viva Brazil.
 
Trudeau didn't just paint his face black. He went all out and wore a wig and painted his legs black. So much for the just an innocent mistake of poor judgement at an Arabian Nights party.

https://twitter.com/seanmurphy_ott/status/1178014656037883905/video/1

Gotta respect that kind of attention to detail.

 
Latest poll tracker has the LPC regaining some ground.

Not enough to get back to majority territory but enough for a minority. 

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/
 
Fishbone Jones said:
Should we really be concerned about the promises he keeps making? After all, he hasn't really kept any from the last four years, has he?

Actually, he's kept over half....

https://trudeaumetre.polimeter.org/

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/a-look-at-policy-areas-scrutinized-by-a-new-book-on-the-trudeau-government

Communism is the only governance that you can vote yourself into, but have to shoot your way out of.

Really?  Are you sure that's true?  Aside from Romania, nobody really shot their way out of communism in 1989-1990 - their bloated regimes just kind of keeled over and handed over power.
 
Infanteer said:
Really?  Are you sure that's true? 
Objective truth is meaningless to some people.


From CBC Radio, "Make debate great again: How bad political argument is undermining democracy":
…. growing political polarization, hyper-politicized social media, and the echo chambers we inhabit online and off create a perfect storm of imperfect argument.

These depictions signal that the people on the other side "aren't even worth listening to, because the views that they have are so 'extreme and crazy,' there couldn't be any profitable reasoning with them."
There are  people I find not worth listening to;  I accept that it makes me part of the problem.  To 'extreme and crazy' however, I would add those who openly embrace compulsive lying.  The only way they can apparently make their case is through lies, deceit, and misdirection -- merely being repetitive doesn't magically change it into truth.

And it's not getting better, as "debates simultaneously are becoming both shrill and tone deaf."    :not-again:
 
stellarpanther said:
This from the just released Liberal Platform will make me vote Liberal in this election.  This is something ALL party's should be doing in my opinion.


The Liberals care so much they waited until 19 days before the election to unveil this, after being in office for 4 years  ::)
 
“The things that mean so much to you don’t mean that much to me.” Neil Young
Except until 3 weeks before an election ...
 
This, if true, could spell the end of the Conservative election chances.  Team Trudeau will latch onto this like a starving pitbull and run hard with it.
 
Haggis said:
This, if true, could spell the end of the Conservative election chances.  Team Trudeau will latch onto this like a starving pitbull and run hard with it.

Was a bad day for him today.  Between that and the kerfufle with a rebel media type Scheer is back on the defensive.

And yes you are right.  The CPC constantly hit Trudeau as not as advertised, focused on his snowboard instructor and teacher experience.  This puts egg on their face.  Scheer has been trying to show that he is not just a career politician and had real world experience.

Hard to hit Trudeau on the work experience front when Scheer appears to have even less.

 
If Canadians don't care about one guy dancing around with his face painted black about two decades ago, they certainly won't care about another guy claiming to have been an insurance salesman.... :rofl:
 
Infanteer said:
If Canadians don't care about one guy dancing around with his face painted black about two decades ago, they certainly won't care about another guy claiming to have been an insurance salesman.... :rofl:

Sheer’s got the trick though- if you’re gonna Walt, Walt small.
 
Interesting piece at Macleans about the urban / rural divide, looking at Conservative / Liberal parties, using population density of ridings as a rural / urban proxy.

TL;DR: The fifty ridings with the most dense populations are all projected Liberal or NDP; at the other end of the spectrum, the leaning is heavily conservative.

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/338canada-the-urban-rural-divide-right-along-party-lines/
 
Infanteer said:
If Canadians don't care about one guy dancing around with his face painted black about two decades ago, they certainly won't care about another guy claiming to have been an insurance salesman.... :rofl:

I really don't care about Trudeau's black face issues years ago because even though I think it was stupid, I don't think anyone things he is/was a racist.  I know of other people who did that back then an it wasn't an issue.  Scheer on the other hand may have broken a law which is a big deal to me, especially because he kept the lie going.

 
stellarpanther said:
I really don't care about Trudeau's black face issues years ago because even though I think it was stupid, I don't think anyone things he is/was a racist.  I know of other people who did that back then an it wasn't an issue.  Scheer on the other hand may have broken a law which is a big deal to me, especially because he kept the lie going.

Since you seem to be prepared to give Trudeau a bye on multiple acts of racist dress up, the Norman affair, the SNC Lavalin affair, multiple instances of lying and promising to put in place multiple years of $20 billion deficits, you'll have to excuse me if I get a bit technical here.

The Saskatchewan Insurance Act provides that:

419(1) No agent shall engage in the insurance brokerage business or hold himself
out as an insurance broker
unless he is specifically authorized by his licence to
engage in the insurance brokerage business.

The purpose of the Act is to protect the public from unauthorized individuals acting or representing themselves as brokers in their dealing with clients/the public. There have been no allegations by anyone that he acted as a broker or held himself out as a broker while employed in that business. My understanding is that at the time he worked as an employee of a properly authorized broker for a short period of time.

Adding the statement that you were once a broker, to a political resume is not holding yourself out as a "current broker". If the allegation is true it's, as previously indicated, a walting but not a criminal offence. It's not right for him to have done that but it doesn't rise above a low level of aggrandisement and falls far below what Trudeau has and is doing (Can't recall how many times I did blackface - yeah, right).

We all tend to give a bit more leeway to the guy that represents the party we want in power but in this case it seems to me that congratulations are in order to the LPC for having convinced at least one voter buy into the slight-of-hand shell game they are running here to deflect from their boy's gross shortcomings.

:pop:
 
stellarpanther said:
I really don't care about Trudeau's black face issues years ago because even though I think it was stupid, I don't think anyone things he is/was a racist.  I know of other people who did that back then an it wasn't an issue.  Scheer on the other hand may have broken a law which is a big deal to me, especially because he kept the lie going.

Exactly!

Federal laws, such as the Canadian Conflict of Interests Acts, particularly Where politicians are involved, should be adhered to not only for the legal requirement to do so, but also to reinforce the influence and accountability that holds politicians to a higher standard...especially Section 9. :nod:

Regards
G2G
 
FJAG said:
Since you seem to be prepared to give Trudeau a bye on multiple acts of racist dress up, the Norman affair, the SNC Lavalin affair, multiple instances of lying and promising to put in place multiple years of $20 billion deficits, you'll have to excuse me if I get a bit technical here.

The Saskatchewan Insurance Act provides that:

The purpose of the Act is to protect the public from unauthorized individuals acting or representing themselves as brokers in their dealing with clients/the public. There have been no allegations by anyone that he acted as a broker or held himself out as a broker while employed in that business. My understanding is that at the time he worked as an employee of a properly authorized broker for a short period of time.

Adding the statement that you were once a broker, to a political resume is not holding yourself out as a "current broker". If the allegation is true it's, as previously indicated, a walting but not a criminal offence. It's not right for him to have done that but it doesn't rise above a low level of aggrandisement and falls far below what Trudeau has and is doing (Can't recall how many times I did blackface - yeah, right).

We all tend to give a bit more leeway to the guy that represents the party we want in power but in this case it seems to me that congratulations are in order to the LPC for having convinced at least one voter buy into the slight-of-hand shell game they are running here to deflect from their boy's gross shortcomings.

:pop:

While I don't agree with the Blackface thing he did, I don't think he is racist at all.  Not sure about Scheer but even the other party leaders have come out saying he is not racist.  I honestly don't ever recall especially back in the 90's, anyone every saying that was racist. I've heard a lot of people express similar thoughts.  I think a big problem in this country is that we often look at how Americans view things and then make decisions based on that.  I'm having trouble explaining that one better but hopefully it's clear.
 
stellarpanther said:
I really don't care about Trudeau's black face issues years ago because even though I think it was stupid, I don't think anyone things he is/was a racist. 

The professor on this podcast makes some really good points about blackface in Canada. I don't agree with all of her points but she has opened my eyes to the extent of this phenomenon within Canada.
 
FSTO said:
The professor on this podcast makes some really good points about blackface in Canada. I don't agree with all of her points but she has opened my eyes to the extent of this phenomenon within Canada.

Which podcast would that be?

:cheers:
 
This

https://youtu.be/Do4r2kU2oB4

Compared to Scheer allegedly suggesting he sold insurance or something?  Which to you is worse than what Trudeau with the SNC BS?

You're going to vote for Trudeau no matter what he does.  ::)
 
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