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General Election: Oct 21, 2019

Is it just me or are all the things that the Liberals are staring to promise, things that they could have very easily brought in during their last four years as a majority government? Seems to me all that they've actually accomplished is to legalize weed and initiate an unpopular carbon tax.

:dunno:
 
FJAG said:
Is it just me or are all the things that the Liberals are staring to promise, things that they could have very easily brought in during their last four years as a majority government? Seems to me all that they've actually accomplished is to legalize weed and initiate an unpopular carbon tax.

:dunno:

The Child Benefit they introduced is a decent success.

The free trade deal with the US and Mexico could also be pointed to but isn't ratified yet.

But even with that it is a pretty short list and yes a lot of what they are proposing could have been done in the last four years. 
 
FJAG said:
Is it just me or are all the things that the Liberals are staring to promise, things that they could have very easily brought in during their last four years as a majority government? Seems to me all that they've actually accomplished is to legalize weed and initiate an unpopular carbon tax.

:dunno:

Well, they also bought us our first pipeline for a few billion dollars, letting a big Texas based company off the hook.
 
An old photo of Stephen Harper in Indigenous garb is being misrepresented online

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/stephen-harper-headdress-trudeau-blackface-1.5294119

In the wake of Liberal leader Justin Trudeau's blackface scandal, an image of Stephen Harper is being shared online showing the former prime minister wearing an Indigenous headdress and face paint.

Those posting the images are attempting to draw parallels between the images of Trudeau wearing blackface makeup and the photo of Harper. But Harper wasn't wearing a costume at the time — he was taking part in a ceremony naming him an honorary chief.

<More on link above>

Honestly I am surprised.  I would expect the CBC to twist this normally...
 
Some tidbits on other ways to cover elections and (at least one factor?) why we get the election coverage we get ...
… The Boston radio station WBUR, for example, is polling people in its region to find out what issues they want the 2020 presidential candidates to address; these results will direct their coverage. The Dublin Inquirer took the same tack in its coverage of the local city election, boiling down its focus to 10 key issues; increasing the supply of social and affordable housing was number 1.

The approach is referred to as the “citizens agenda” by New York University journalism professor Jay Rosen, one of the most influential media critics in North America. He has excoriated the horse-race journalism that characterizes US media coverage (and, it should be said, Canadian coverage).

“A demonstrable public service, the citizens agenda approach puts the campaign press on the side of the voters and their right to have their major concerns addressed by the people bidding for power. That is the road not taken,” Rosen wrote last year.

The Stanford University Center for Deliberative Democracy, meanwhile, is behind America in One Room, a “nationwide Deliberative Poll,” where 500 citizen delegates are brought together to engage in a nonpartisan forum with presidential candidates ...
More @ link here.
… When the Reform Party arrived in Ottawa in the mid-1990s there was a small but vocal group within it that could be best described as ‘perma-mad’. They were angry about everything from every decision by the Liberal government to their perceived unfair treatment by the media to cultural and social policies and immigration and everything in between. Before their feet hit the floor in the morning they were mad, they were angry about everything all day long and the last thing they thought of before falling asleep at night was how mad they were.

It was incongruous largely because it lacked perspective. Not everything is a 10-alarm fire. When everything is, then very quickly nothing is. Others in the party moved the ‘perma-mad’ crowd to the fringe, where they would erupt on occasion attracting attention. But the mainstream of the Reform party assessed political issues on their individual merits with a degree of perspective the ‘perma-mad’ gang never had.

An ironic legacy of the Reform Party, which always claimed that the media was Liberal and part of the establishment and therefore part of the problem in Canada, is that it’s now much of the media that seems ‘perma-mad’, where everything is that 10-alarm fire.

It is egged on by the cesspool of social media that captivates journalists even as the general public pays little attention, by those who are either paid to be permanently outraged or may have adopted it as a lifestyle and perhaps by the media’s increasing frustration at its marginalization in the eyes of the public. The result is campaign coverage that increasingly lacks perspective ...
More @ link here or here.
 
Munk Foreign Policy debate cancelled, as Liberal Party refuses to respond to invitation  [Link]
The Munk Debates
@munkdebate

The Munk Debates wishes to thank Elizabeth May, Andrew Scheer and Jagmeet Singh for accepting our invitation to debate and their willingness to face challenging questions about their foreign policy platforms.

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Last election, there were five leaders' debates;  this time, three, with none on Foreign Policy.  I guess the Liberals accept that the UN SC seat isn't coming our way, so there's no need to pontificate to the world about Canada's global awesomeness.  ::)
 
Remind me... these are the same guys that said Mr Harper was afraid to address the public last go round, right?
 
ModlrMike said:
Remind me... these are the same guys that said Mr Harper was afraid to address the public last go round, right?
For the record from 2015, Harper took part in 5 debates, and declined 2.(source). 

We'll see what the final score for Team Red ends up being, with one debate already cancelled.  :pop:
 
ModlrMike said:
Remind me... these are the same guys that said Mr Harper was afraid to address the public last go round, right?
    ???

Harper, Mulcair, and Trudeau participated in the Munk foreign policy debate on 28 Sep 2015. 

It's available at LINK, if anyone is wishing Harper was back instead of Sheer.
(For some strange reason, Munk files their debates by the speakers' first names;  you'll find Stephen Harper between Stephens' Fry and Bannon.  :stars: )
 
I was at the all candidates meeting at the Glebe last night. Truth be told, McKenna handled herself well last night and so did Taman (NDP). The crowd was supportive of the Green candidate but that waned as the evening progressed. There was indifference shown towards the CPC and outright hostility towards the PPC. I'll give the PPC candidate kudos for showing up and stating her case but the crowd was having none of her pitch.

McKenna brought up Ford and Harper quite a bit which brought a snort from me and some eye rolling from folks sitting beside me. One person muttered under their breath "You've had 4 years!"

Lots of promises of net zero emissions by 2030 from both the Greens and Liberals. NDP has electric buses, green industry, blah blah.

I was sitting beside a couple (husband in the Foreign Service) who liked Taman but thinks Singh is too green and cannot stand Scheer so she'll be voting Liberal. The husband was a good federal civil servant and kept his thoughts to himself.

In the line-up heading into the hall was a fellow Cold Warrior handing out Communist Party of Canada pamphlets. I acknowledged his service as he did mine and I took a pamphlet. It was full of the usual stuff and to pay for it all was a 75% cut in the CAF. Some things never change.
Had to give him kudos for keeping up the cause though, because right on cue at the start of the introductions he caused a bit of kerfuffle yelling about the illegitimacy of the proceedings since all the candidates were not on the stage.
He was quietly escorted to the back of the room to hang out with the other also-ran candidates.
 
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/

latest poll aggregate from Eric Grenier.

This election makes no sense...
 
Remius said:
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/

latest poll aggregate from Eric Grenier.

This election makes no sense...

Nanos' results today from the 905 area (Toronto suburbs) must have panic setting in in some circles; one does not drop over 7% in a week, go from a comfortable lead to a dead heat, and not FREAK OUT!
 
If anyone has any doubts about the influence of the anti-gun lobby and the Liberal end game on gun control, pay very close attention to the imagery in this Liberal campaign video.  Except for the Uzi at 0:19, which appears to be in the hands of a European police officer, those aren't illegal guns, and those people - including Conservative leader Andrew Scheer and Conservative candidate Michele Rempel -  aren't gang bangers.  Totally dishonest, if you ask me.
 
Haggis said:
If anyone has any doubts about the influence of the anti-gun lobby and the Liberal end game on gun control, pay very close attention to the imagery in this Liberal campaign video.  Except for the Uzi at 0:19, which appears to be in the hands of a European police officer, those aren't illegal guns, and those people - including Conservative candidate Michele Rempel -  aren't gang bangers.  Totally dishonest, if you ask me.

If you go and read the comments (yes, some of us are do) and just about everyone is against the video.
 
Retired AF Guy said:
If you go and read the comments (yes, some of us do) and just about everyone is against the video.
  Comments notwithstanding, the Liberal message is out there.  All guns are bad and we're coming for them.
 
The CCFR just received 3rd party status. They have a big announcement today.

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You'll see how far the CCFR is willing to go to save our guns.


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Jonezy76 said:
The CCFR just received 3rd party status. They have a big announcement today.
  I believe the CCFR has had third party status for quite a while.  CSSA has recently registered as a result of a Liberal candidate's complaint against their PSA protecting gun ownership.
 
if anyone has any doubts about doing politics differently or Trudeau's stance on women, this just helps cement those doubts.

https://election.ctvnews.ca/liberal-leader-trudeau-denies-mp-pushed-out-for-not-lauding-him-as-feminist-1.4610019

https://torontosun.com/news/national/election-2019/lilley-trudeaus-troubling-pattern-with-strong-women
 
At what point does political commentary become libel?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-attacks-conservative-candidate-1.5297446
 
ModlrMike said:
At what point does political commentary become libel?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-attacks-conservative-candidate-1.5297446

Par for course. In this case a reporter for a right-leaning think tank was refused access  access to public rallies and refused to give a reason.

'You've got to go': Liberals apologize to conservative broadcaster banned from public rally

'They wouldn't even recognize me as a Canadian citizen wanting to hear a prime minister speak at an event,' Andrew Lawton said

Stuart Thomson September 26, 2019 8:23 PM EDT

The Liberal Party has apologized to a journalist who was booted from one of Justin Trudeau’s public rallies in Thunder Bay, Ont., on Wednesday.

Andrew Lawton, a conservative broadcaster who has worked in journalism since 2013, says despite the apology he’s still fighting to get access to the kind of media events the party has barred him from this week, and he’s at a loss to explain why he’s been targeted.

“I actually take a great deal of pride in my career, that I have the relationships I do with people of all parties. I’m not someone who does stunts, I’m not someone who disrupts events. I’m not someone who protests. I like to have an honest dialogue,” said Lawton.

For five years, he hosted the Andrew Lawton show in London, Ont., ending in 2018 and was a columnist for Global News.

    To summarize: I'm still fighting for access to press conferences and media events. The difference now is that I'm not at risk of being arrested for attending public rallies.
    — Andrew Lawton (@AndrewLawton) September 26, 2019

Lawton says the True North Centre, a right-leaning think tank and journalism outlet where he is a fellow, even raised thousands of dollars for him to join the Liberal campaign on the media bus, but the party turned him away on Sunday when he tried to join the  tour.

On Monday, he was unable to get details of a Trudeau press event in Niagara Falls, so he tried to follow the bus to the venue. He was soon pulled over by a police officer who questioned him for about 15 minutes and who said he didn’t think Lawton was doing anything illegal, Lawton said.

On Tuesday, he was barred from a Trudeau policy announcement in Burnaby, B.C. and told that he was not an “accredited” journalist. After being turned away from Trudeau’s event, Lawton said the New Democratic Party happily admitted him to their party’s event nearby, where he was able to quiz leader Jagmeet Singh.

Lawton then hopped on a plane to Thunder Bay where he planned to cover Trudeau’s public rally on Wednesday night. He filled in an RSVP form and stood in line for about an hour before a campaign worker approached him, took his photograph and then showed it to the police officers in attendance. The officers promptly asked him to leave the venue. Lawton asked the officers why he was being removed and they said they didn’t know. The Liberals also gave him no answers.

“They wouldn’t even recognize me as a Canadian citizen wanting to hear a prime minister speak at an event,” said Lawton. “They didn’t say, ‘We’re worried you’re going to disrupt it.’ They didn’t say there’s a security concern. They just said, ‘You’ve got to go’.”

    This has nothing to do with media credentials or accreditation. This was an ejection from a public rally. Not even a townhall where there was a risk I could *gasp* ask a question. What do the Liberals find so scary about me?
    — Andrew Lawton (@AndrewLawton) September 25, 2019

Lawton said he wasn’t sure whether he was personally being targeted or if the Liberal Party had a problem with the True North Centre.

The think tank and news outlet, which is a registered charity, has been described by founder Candice Malcolm as “a cross between the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and the Fraser Institute but for national security and immigration.” It’s designed to bring a right wing perspective to those issues and Lawton identifies himself as a conservative. He emphasizes that he’s “small c conservative,” not a partisan, although he did run for the Ontario Progressive Conservatives in the 2018 election. During that race, Lawton had to apologize for offensive comments he had made in the past.

Lawton has been barred from three Liberal news conferences, in Burnaby, Brampton and Hamilton, with little explanation other than he wasn’t “accredited.” Lawton says he watched two people approach a campaign worker and get admitted on the spot in Burnaby and he’s struggled to get an explanation of what “accredited” means, when there’s no formal process for Canadian journalists.

Many journalists who cover the government in Ottawa are part of the parliamentary press gallery, but that’s not required for election campaign events and local media and foreign media have covered events featuring all the major parties.

From his discussions with Liberal campaign staff, Lawton said he think “they don’t really have a working definition” for media accreditation.

“So my position is that they’re making it up on the spot,” he said.

    Chris Selley: The Liberal campaign trail is a place for absurdities, but not much else

Lawton acknowledges that the Liberal Party has the right to remove anyone they like for the events, but the idea that they would remove a journalist and bar him from press conferences worries him.

“There is a leadership by example question here, specifically with this government, who, back during Stephen Harper’s time was priding itself on being the party that would be open to the press, and would allow all reporters to come and ask the tough questions,” said Lawton.

“And it’s also the party that was thumping its chest years ago, and saying that it doesn’t kick people out of rallies for not being supporters. And, you know, there’s a hypocrisy in what they’ve done,” he said.

Perhaps the most baffling thing to Lawton is that he’s asked Trudeau questions at a press conference before. On Wednesday, he posted a two-year-old photo of himself and Trudeau posing for a photo together after a media event.

• Email: sxthomson@postmedia.com | Twitter: stuartxthomson

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