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Where do you work civvie? (for those hoping to be in the navy)

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I just thought this would be an interesting thread for those hoping to be in the NAVY.
I,m going to be applying for MARS soon, but right now I,m running the Hire-a-Student in Medicine Hat..... anybody need a summer job (I have a few for ya). ::)
 
I'm still a lowly undergrad, with various things on the side.

 
I'm a commissionaire .. probably the youngest in the corps
 
I am a clerical worker for a labour union. I am currently waiting for my med 3 to come back from Borden, applying for navy reserve.
 
I work at a grocery store pushing carts (NOT FUN)  :rage:. I am quiting soon to go into the reserves. I am hoping to go to RMC and become a MARS officer.
 
I am a technician for Future Shop Moncton... I passed the Aptitude, PT, Medical tests and the Interview. I applied for 284 Naval Electronics Technician (Communication).... Supposedly, there's not a long wait for that job, its in pretty high demand.... Sooner the better!  :salute:
 
  Hello there fellow Navy hopefulls :)      My civvy job is as a baggage handler for Air Canada here in Halifax.  Good job...but....hard on the body!
  Actually my situation is a little different.  Only a few months ago i had gotten into the army reserve, and had put in a few thursday nights at the unit, but before I could do my bmq, I was told at work that I would probably have to leave the province in order to keep my full time job.  So unfortunately I had to tell the unit that I could not continue and did not want to waste any more of their time or money.  So of course as  it worked out I did not leave the province, and now I'm out of the military! 
    I'm seriously thinking of leaving the airport and joining the navy reg force, and am now looking between all the different ncm trades.  I would imagine that the process would go quite a bit faster since the recruiting centre should still have all my stuff such as my physical testing.....interview, medical information etc etc.
  cheers all and good luck
Steve :cdn:
 
Hi,

I'm an under employed technician on civi street. I am going to BMQ, St. Jean, on the 27th of August. I am going in the 284 trade, Nav Tech, Coms. I can't wait. I have been talking to e few different people and I hear that it is a good job in the Navy. Basic will be an experience but one well worth having.

Peace

Don.
 
Right now i work as a full time security officer at a casino here in ontario.
Pays ok at 19 bucks and hour, and schedule is good, but boring job.

looking towards the canadian navy as a reg force and maybe go into as a naval communicator?

any suggestions is naval communicator a good career to do for a life time?
 
I was an officer in the reg force (and res).  I found that Nav Coms had a pretty good gid going on.  They are in a trade that is challenging, changes from day to day and thus can avoid the "rut", and from someone who wants to move ahead, in my experience I found that Nav Com was a relatively quick moving trade for someone who knows their job and is seeking more responsibility.  I found it was one of the fastest - for promotion and advancement - of the NCM trades.  I knew some CPOs who were in their 30s (to put it in perspective, they had around 10-14 years experience), now perhaps they were a wee bit of an exception, but to make PO (which is quite achievable) may were doing so "on time".
 
I understand working in the military is different then a civilian job.

in regards to working to the long hours as to the pay thats in the military?

Do people always work 20 to 22 hours a day in military?
AFter a few years is the pay better in military  then working a civilian job 40 hours a week that pays 19 bucks an hour?

Or when you break down the hours worked in military? you arent making much $$ as compared to making the same hours in the civilian job?

thank you
 
It's hard to compare wages and work directly.  I suppose like any job, so much depends on whether a person actually enjoy what they are doing, how much they are willing to trade off for more money etc.

When a ship is at sea, the number of hours worked in a day varies, depending on the person's occupation.  Some folks are "day workers", some are shiftworkers (we call a shift a "watch"); having said that day-workers also have other duties.  A typical day at sea would probably find a person working 12 hours a day (on average); some days more, some days a little less.  Depending on what the ship is doing it may be 12-16 hours per day on average.  Being posted to a ship a person gets an extra allowance (sea duty allowance) which is supposed to compensate people for the hardship and extra work.  For a junior person it's about $290/month before tax.

When a ship is in a port, home or foreign a person has to perform, in addition to their daily work, a 24-hour duty watch (not working for 24 hours, but required on board the ship in case of emergencies such as fires, etc.).  Depending on the person's rank these duty watches may be as frequently as every five in-port days, or as far apart as every 20 (or more) as a person gets more senior.  The duty watch is not hard work, rather just a "pain in the butt".

How to equate the pay?  On the DND recruiting site you can find the salaries.  Using the lowest scale, a person gets promoted to Leading Seaman (a working level rank for NCM) after 3 years, and it's about $49000.  If you were to compare it to a 37.5 hour work week (the federal civil service week), it's about $25/hr.  At sea, the running joke is that it is about $4/hr. :D  This is all at the most junior working rank, as a person progresses the salary ranges go up quite significantly http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/media/pdf/other/RegularForcePay.pdf

There are also some postings to shore units, and those jobs are generally a traditional work week, with the occasional base duty-watch, once every month or so (again, depending on rank, more senior people might do it once every four, five or six months).

Some of the other benefits: 4 weeks of vacation from the get-go, increasing to 5 weeks after 5 years.  When a ship is deployed for overseas, there are special vacation days that a person gets that don't come from regular vacation, so for example a person might get 20 days off, then still have the 20 days of regular time off to take as well.    Full medical and dental, medical/dental plans for family etc.

So, it comes back to the opening comment about how much a person is willing to put up with in their job.  The work really isn't that hard, I find there are a lot of whiners, but I think that some whining is justified (the system has some cracks), but it really isn't as bad as some might say.  Personally, there is a great deal that I enjoy, and some things I think are plain stupid; I spent six years in the Navy, found it just wasn't doing it for me so I left to go to University, afterwards I got back in full-time for seven years, now I have taken some time off for more university.  Next year I might have a civilian job (to try something new) or get back into the game full-time.

Overall, not a bad life, but is open to some very extended periods away from family/home, and that is usually the deal breaker for most jobs, military or civilian (a friend of mine is an auditor with Revenue Canada, and he travels quite a bit; the question he asks is whether the salary he gets, which is pretty good, is worth the time away he spends from his family as he chases tax cheats).
 
Very informative post Gus for those interested in the naval life. Thank you.
 
Gus thanks for that post. I have a civvie job (19 years in January). It pays very well, benefits etc. I joined NavRes more or less because a friend said I should try it, I might like it. Midlife crisis?   :-[

I think there are advantages and disadvantages to all jobs. Like you say, whiners everywhere and some of it is justified in any job. What I see from a civvie point of view (of which I'm much more part of at this point) is that military personnel do give up many hours of family/quality of life hours, they seem to do it with such dignity and sense of purpose.

The training is hard but the rewards are many. There are people, in any work environment who develop little 'feifdoms' for lack of a better word... I am just weary of the ones in my civvie job and wanted to do something completely different. Once I embarked on this course, I got very excited at the possibilities. I'm sure if I had spent 19 years in the military I might have a totally different opinion of the machine that is the military, but at this new stage, for me at least, it is a thrilling environment with great opportunities for learning and doing something for my fellow man. To lay down my life if that is what it takes.

I toured a US warship and found the people there very dedicated and eager to learn about their northern neighbours (as we were about them).   I think it takes a special type of person to be a successful and useful military member. A dedicated, hard-working individual. Not everyone in the military is that, but for the most part I think the ones who last or do a good job, command respect of their subordinates and from their superiors, are just exactly that.

Thank you for all the years you have given to us.
 
I work at a call centre booking rental cars for Americans. I took an Arts degree that's gathering dust. The pay is marginal, there's no mental satisfaction. Get me outta here. I am trying to get into Reg Force as a MARS officer. Waiting to hear I'm confirmed to go to NOAB in Oct. Sign me up!
 
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