Wanted: 1000 x new rucksacks for (at least some of) CF

[The Bread Guy]

This from buyandsell.gc.ca:

.... Requirement
The Contractor is required to provide the Department of National Defence with a rucksack system to support training and operations where the standard Canadian Forces (CF) rucksack is unsuitable.  The Rucksack System is to include a separate adjustable stand-alone load carrying frame compatible with existing in-service Pouch Attachment Ladder System (PALS) equipment, and a PALS attachable high-capacity rucksack bag for carrying equipment on extended patrol deployments.

Firm Quantity
Stand-Alone Carrying Frame 1,000 each
High Capacity Rucksack Bag 1,000 each

In addition, this requirement also includes two (2) options:
- Option 1 is for an estimated quantity of 1,000 each exercisable during a period of 24 months from contract award date.
- Option 2 is for an estimated quantity of 1,000 each exercisable during a period of 36 months from contract award date ....

Closing date:      2014/04/15 14:00 Eastern Daylight Time (EDT)

Full bid package so far (67 pg PDF) here, specs only (43 pg PDF) here.

 

[Lightguns]

"where the standard Canadian Forces (CF) rucksack is unsuitable"

Anyplace that is not a basement.

 

[x_para76]

I read the specs and found it odd that it's proposed to be made in multi cam. I was under the impression that the CF wasn't looking to change from CADPAT.

 

[Lightguns]

Likely for the lads and lass of SOR, they like their multicam on occasion.  Quantity is about right for an issue and a reserve for breakages.  This is the third requirement for multicam rucks in 5 years.  They must be hard on their stuff.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I was thinking a Ruck for the man portable C16 till I heard Multicam.

 

[x_para76]

Likely for the lads and lass of SOR, they like their multicam on occasion.  Quantity is about right for an issue and a reserve for breakages.  This is the third requirement for multicam rucks in 5 years.  They must be hard on their stuff.

Sorry I guess I got a bit excited thinking there was a possibility that the next issue of CF uniform would be in multi-cam.

 

[Journeyman]

Sorry I guess I got a bit excited thinking there was a possibility that the next issue of CF uniform would be in multi-cam.

Why? 

 

[x_para76]

I prefer the uniform styles that are being issued by our allies now in multi-cam as well as the some the after market kit that's available for example some of the stuff that produced by Crye Precision. Unfortunately there isn't as much kit produced in CADPAT as obviously we're the only force using it.

 

[Journeyman]

Ah, so at a time when our troops need footwear, our vehicles need maintenance and/or replacement, and we can not afford to do actual training.....we should be spending more of our budget on buttons & bows and look-cool kit.  Got it.

 

[Lightguns]

Ah, so at a time when our troops need footwear, our vehicles need maintenance and/or replacement, and we can not afford to do actual training.....we should be spending more of our budget on buttons & bows and look-cool kit.  Got it.

Effectively, we are already, the RCMP, SOR and JTF are in Crye and receiving regular re-issues of cool looking kit.

 

[x_para76]

Ah, so at a time when our troops need footwear, our vehicles need maintenance and/or replacement, and we can not afford to do actual training.....we should be spending more of our budget on buttons & bows and look-cool kit.  Got it.

No not at all but I've been told that they're at some point issuing a new pattern of uniform to the CF and when I saw that these new rucks were to be made in multi-cam I thought that perhaps that was the direction the new uniforms were going. It hadn't occurred to me that this procurement was just going to be for SOF but with the relatively small quantity ordered it makes sense that it would be for them.

 

[Jarnhamar]

If regular soldiers were issued multi-cam our SOF guys would have to as a rule need to find new a new pattern  :camo:

 

[Journeyman]

Effectively, we are already, the RCMP, SOR and JTF are in Crye and receiving regular re-issues of cool looking kit.

Wow.  You do know that we're not RCMP, and the overwhelming majority are neither CSOR nor JTF2?

So, we should get this because: a) there's some awesome after-market kit that the troops can buy at their own expense, and b) we could look cool and/or like some of our Allies. 

:not-again:

 

[Lightguns]

Maybe the government is giong to issue 1000 sets of new cam, gear and weapons for their "Victory in Afghanistan" parade!

 

[Lightguns]

Wow.  You do know that we're not RCMP, and the overwhelming majority are neither CSOR nor JTF2?

So, we should get this because: a) there's some awesome after-market kit that the troops can buy at their own expense, and b) we could look cool and/or like some of our Allies. 

:not-again:

Yes I am quite.  What I was saying is that our special troops get a large share of the equipment pie, that would be better suited to spreading amongst all troops.  But for some reason our elites want to like like the elites of other nations.  In effect, I was agreeing with you, which seems very hard to do.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Maybe the government is giong to issue 1000 sets of new cam, gear and weapons for their "Victory in Afghanistan" parade!

Just like the old Soviet Union used to (allegedly) bring out the nice stuff only for parades, right?  >

 

[Lightguns]

Just like, except they were a wealthy socialist nation compared to Canuckistan.

 

[quadrapiper]

Effectively, we are already, the RCMP, SOR and JTF are in Crye and receiving regular re-issues of cool looking kit.

Why aren't the tiny portion of the RCMP that need something camo issued CADPAT? Seems like it'd be cheaper. LCF?

 

[blacktriangle]

Yes I am quite.  What I was saying is that our special troops get a large share of the equipment pie, that would be better suited to spreading amongst all troops.  But for some reason our elites want to like like the elites of other nations.  In effect, I was agreeing with you, which seems very hard to do.

How many sets of Multicam can we buy for the price of 1 LAV?

 

[Bzzliteyr]

Why aren't the tiny portion of the RCMP that need something camo issued CADPAT? Seems like it'd be cheaper. LCF?

Because CADPAT belongs to the military.. not the RCMP.