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The Khadr Thread

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I'd reintegrate him allright. You don't want to know how or where. :rage:
 
I'd like to integrate him with something...

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OldSolduer said:
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I'd reintegrate him allright. You don't want to know how or where. :rage:

but enough of us could give a good guess and would support it >:D
 
Canada is still a common law nation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw

In the common law of England, a judgment declaring someone an outlaw, known as a "Writ of Outlawry", was one of the harshest penalties in the legal system, since the outlaw could not use the legal system to protect himself if needed, such as from mob justice.

To be declared an outlaw was to suffer a form of civil or social death. The outlaw was debarred from all civilized society. No one was allowed to give him food, shelter, or any other sort of support — to do so was to commit the crime of aiding and abetting, and to be in danger of the ban oneself.

An outlaw might be killed with impunity; and it was not only lawful but meritorious to kill a thief flying from justice — to do so was not murder. A man who slew a thief was expected to declare the fact without delay, otherwise the dead man’s kindred might clear his name by their oath and require the slayer to pay weregild as for a true man. Because the outlaw has defied civil society, that society was quit of any obligations to the outlaw —outlaws had no civil rights, could not sue in any court on any cause of action, though they were themselves personally liable.
 
Canada to stay out of Khadr matter
By Lee-Anne Goodman, THE CANADIAN PRESS
Article Link

WASHINGTON - Canada's foreign affairs minister emerged from a meeting with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Tuesday to make clear the federal government would make no immediate demands about repatriating Canadian Omar Khadr, still imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay.

"This individual is, allegedly, a murderer," Lawrence Cannon told a news conference at the Canadian Embassy following his talks with Clinton at the State Department.

"I have indicated today the government of Canada fully respects the process that the American government has put forward, and we will await the outcome of that process before anything takes place."

More on link

 
I guess there are many ways to worm your way into "things".......



http://www.thestar.com/SpecialSections/article/612188
Break-in shines light on marriage of Khadr, judge's son

BILL GRIMSHAW FOR THE TORONTO STAR
National Security Reporter

When Ottawa police received a routine 911 call for a suspected break-in last month, they could never have foreseen the strange saga that would unfold – one that involves a federal court judge, the notorious Khadr family, RCMP protection and a wedding that would set tongues wagging among Ottawa's political elite.

The home belonged to Patrick J. Boyle, a well-known and connected judge of Canada's tax court. Police reportedly found the front door smashed, the house ransacked and what appeared to be holes from .22-calibre bullets in the windows.
The incident combined with Boyle's position raised alarms since the police force was already investigating the murder of his colleague, former Tax Court Chief Justice Alban Garon, who was killed alongside his wife and a neighbour in 2007.

But then another connection came to light. Boyle had recently become the father-in-law of Zaynab Khadr, the outspoken sister of Guantanamo Bay detainee Omar Khadr.
The link to the Khadr clan, once called "Canada's First Family of Terrorism" because of the patriarch's former association with Al Qaeda's elite, would make the already curious March 20 break-in even more suspicious. Boyle and his wife were given RCMP protection and the federal police force's INSET division, which normally investigates terrorism cases, was called in.

Although Ottawa police and the RCMP would not comment on the details of the case, the Star has learned that documents were reportedly taken from Boyle's home and that the three bullet holes indicated the shots were fired from close range. No one was home at the time of the break-in, which was discovered by Boyle's teenaged daughter that Friday afternoon.
The investigation and the marriage are the latest twists in the Khadr family saga that has been ongoing since the mid-1990s.

In a phone interview and through questions answered by email, Patrick Boyle and his wife Linda said they were unnerved by the break-in, but have been told by the RCMP that it is likely not related to their son's marriage or the unsolved homicide.
"Our response was typical of how I believe most families would react upon a break-in – we felt that our sense of privacy and safety in our own home was violated," the couple wrote.

As for their son Joshua's marriage, they said they have welcomed their new daughter-in-law and Zaynab's daughter from a previous marriage into their family.
"As we have slowly begun sharing the news of our son's marriage with our close friends and colleagues, we have been touched by the sensitivity and concern shown in their responses, and in their unwavering support for our family," they said.

"While we recognize that both Joshua and Zaynab come from different backgrounds and grew up in different cultures, it is our hope that love will prevail over these unique challenges," Linda wrote. "Zaynab is a part of our family now. She refers to me and my husband as 'Mom' and 'Dad,' and she treats us with all the respect you could hope for from a daughter-in-law. She has brought into our lives the gift of her daughter, now our granddaughter."

Now 29, Zaynab enraged Canadians in 2004 for comments she made in a CBC documentary praising her former life in Pakistan and Afghanistan and downplaying the 9/11 attacks. When Zaynab returned to Canada with her daughter and younger sister the following year, RCMP officers seized her laptop and personal possessions at the airport. The RCMP's Toronto national security unit continues to investigate her but she has not been charged.

Her 25-year-old husband says she has been unfairly vilified.
"If you take any person and the worst statement they've made at a difficult time and you repeat it ad nauseam in the press, anybody can look like a super-villain," Joshua Boyle said in an interview this week.

Boyle, a recent University of Waterloo graduate, met Zaynab in 2008 after becoming interested in national security cases and human rights issues. He later offered to work as a spokesperson for the family and issued press releases during Zaynab's October 2008 hunger strike on Parliament Hill as she tried to raise awareness about her brother's detention in Guantanamo.

Boyle said he would not discuss his religious beliefs or where the couple were married. Although he was raised in a Mennonite community in Waterloo, his parents are active within Ottawa's Catholic community while the Khadr family is Muslim. Zaynab said she did not want to comment for the article.

The marriage is Zaynab's fourth and her first in Canada. Her father, Ahmed Said Khadr, had arranged her previous marriages beginning when she was just 16, as he shuttled his children around Canada, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Khadr, a Canadian citizen born in Egypt, operated various charities in Afghanistan and Pakistan, but after 9/11 fled with his family to the tribal border region. Long suspected of connections to Al Qaeda due to his acquaintance with its leader Osama bin Laden, both the UN and U.S. listed him as a suspected terrorist financier. He was killed by Pakistani forces in October 2003.

U.S. Special Forces fighting in Afghanistan captured Zaynab's younger brother, Omar, in July 2002. The Pentagon held and interrogated the 15-year-old at Bagram for three months before transferring him to the American base at Guantanamo Bay where he remains today. Now 22, Khadr was charged under the Bush administration with five war crimes, including murder for allegedly throwing a grenade that fatally wounded U.S. soldier Christopher Speer. The case is currently under review and U.S. President Barack Obama has ordered the Guantanamo prison closed by next year.

The eldest Khadr son is also in custody. Abdullah Khadr is fighting his extradition to the U.S. where he has been indicted on terrorism charges. His extradition hearing is set to begin later this month.


 
Interesting Article....busy little family those Khadar's are.....
 
Canadian officials probe Khadr lawyer firing
TheStar.com - April 04, 2009 Allan Woods Ottawa Bureau
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STRASBOURG–A diplomatic row could be brewing over the surpise decision by the U.S. government to fire terrorism suspect Omar Khadr's military-appointed lawyer.

Canadian officials said this morning that they are looking into reports that U.S. Navy lawyer Lt.-Cmdr. William Kuebler had been removed from the case for improper supervision and management of 22-year-old Khadr's defence team.

Kuebler has led the defence for Canada's only Guantanamo inmate for the last two years.

Khadr is charged with five counts of war crimes linked to allegations he threw a grenade that killed U.S. Sgt. Christopher Speer during a firefight in Afghanistan in July 2002. The case has been suspended until May.

A spokesperson for Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon, who is attending the annual NATO summit in this French-German border town, said the department is seeking more information on the decision to dump Kuebler.

"Canada has always insisted that Mr. Khadr has access to competent counsel of his choice," said Catherine Loubier.

She declined to say whether Cannon had raised the issue with his U.S. counterpart, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, or if there was any intention to do so.

Just how hard the Conservative government could go to bat for Khadr is another question. The Tories have repeatedly refused calls to request Khadr's return to Canadian soil, even after U.S. President Barack Obama made clear his intention to close down the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

On Friday, French President Nicolas Sarkozy offered to take one of the detainees from the American-run prison, located in Cuba, saying that Guantanamo wasn't in keeping with U.S. values. The prisoner in question is reportedly an Algerian national.

"I was proud and happy to see that the U.S. has made the decision that we'd awaited, to close that camp." Sarkozy said, adding France's decision to take in a detainee was in response to a direct request from Obama.

"You can't condemn the U.S. because they have that camp and then wash your hands of the matter when they close it. That's not how you're an ally. That's not how you're a friend and that's not how you can be respected worldwide."
end of article
 
Judge reinstates Guantanamo lawyer fired by US
By BEN FOX – 18 hours ago
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SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — A military judge has refused to allow Pentagon officials to dismiss the lead attorney for the last western prisoner at Guantanamo, adding to turmoil for the Canadian's defense on Wednesday as a key deadline approaches.

Army Col. Patrick Parrish ruled late Tuesday that the chief defense counsel for the Guantanamo war crimes trials lacked authority to dismiss Navy Lt. Cmdr. William Kuebler from the defense team of Omar Khadr, who was 15 when captured after allegedly killing an American soldier.

Parrish said in a one-page ruling that only a judge could remove a lawyer under the rules of the military tribunals, which were suspended in January by President Barack Obama pending a review of the system for prosecuting Guantanamo prisoners as war criminals.

The chief defense counsel, Air Force Col. Peter Masciola, said he removed Kuebler because the defense team was "dysfunctional," and he asked the judge to reconsider his ruling.

Kuebler, who says his firing stems from strategy disagreements with Masciola, said he has been barred from the defense counsel's office and prevented from accessing files as the team tries to meet an April 15 deadline to submit documents to a review team appointed by Obama.

"I am Omar Khadr's lawyer and I am assigned to the office of military commissions and my boss is keeping me from doing my job," he told The Associated Press in a phone interview from his home in Alexandria, Virginia.
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mattoigta said:
It just said on CBC that 2 members of the Khadr family - I believe the mother (who keeps "losing" canadian passports) and the son (who was injured in a gun fight with pakistani police men) - are on a plane to Canada. The flight is from Islamabad to Toronto, and is scheduled to land tomorrow afternoon.

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The American,British, Canadian leftist press have been  exploiting this isolated case on Khadr. 'Look, we  had SLIGHTLY committed an inconceivable ANd SLIGHTLY IRRATIONAL INCONCEIVABLE act that created a grey area in Canadian jurisprudence in need of a precedent. But don't exploit the issue in defense of communism and godless Leftism (journals and magazines of the  Communist Party of Canada) whose adherents are  all in 'perpetual fault'.'

It is similar to using Maher Arar as an issue but have never attempted to bring his perpetrattors in Syria to justice by way of invoking and indicting through international law. Double jeopardy of using Arar and covering up for the acts of those who tortured him. Double standards in dealing with terrorism by way of covering up the fact that ARar is considered a 'terrorist' under Syrian law for his affiliation with Syrian Brotherhood.

Perspicacious,, intuitive... those are the kind of writers among the politically correct democratic capitalilsm is what we need nowadays.
 
Necropost - Spam, and Troll all wrapped into one.

Makes ones head hurt.


 
Infidel-6 said:
Necropost - Spam, and Troll all wrapped into one.

Makes ones head hurt.

It wasn't addressed to the previous poster, sir. It was an indictment of the flaws in Left journalism. It was satire.
 
This from the Canadian Press:
Prime Minister Stephen Harper has an obligation to immediately demand the repatriation of Omar Khadr from Guantanamo Bay because his failure to do so offends fundamental justice, a Federal Court judge ruled Thursday.

In a strong judgment, Judge Walter O'Reilly said Harper's refusal to get involved violated Canada's Charter of Rights.

"The ongoing refusal of Canada to request Mr. Khadr's repatriation to Canada offends a principle of fundamental justice and violates Mr. Khadr's rights," O'Reilly said in his 43-page decision.

"To mitigate the effect of that violation, Canada must present a request to the United States for Mr. Khadr's repatriation as soon as practicable." ....  In the House of Commons, Harper said his Conservative government's position was consistent that of the previous Liberal government.

"The facts, in our judgment, have not changed," Harper said. "We will be looking at the decision very carefully and obviously considering an appeal" ....
If you're inclined to read the whole Federal Court decision, it's attached.
 
Whitling said he expected Harper and the Canadian government to take immediate steps to demand Khadr's repatriation.

"There's nothing at all to stop them from doing that. All they have to do is send a letter."


However, the lawyer did acknowledge that there was no guarantee the government of U.S. President Barack Obama would accept a repatriation demand from Canada.

I think that the fitting thing to do, is for the Government to write the letter requesting the immediate repatriation of Khadr from the US upon the completion of his Legal proceedings and Sentence (if any).  That will fulfill the demands of Whitling, O'Reilly and cronies.
 
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