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References Superthread [Merged]

Boater said:
One of my refrence sheets got a bit messed up it's one of the ones that goes into great detail, the other one is in fine condition though, but what i'm wondering is the refrences that you can print from the DND site are the ones with only your refrences contact information, and spots for 3 refrences, is it acceptable to hand in one of each? or should they be the same? Finally since I noticed that the one is for 3 refrences does that mean I need 3 in total as the CFRC only gave me 2 to begin with.
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You need to provide the information that is required, no more and no less.  This is the form (http://64.254.158.112/pdf/letter_ref_en.pdf) and you should not be using anything else.

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I'm applyint to the Reserves (Infantry) and have been told that I need 3 references which have known me for 5 years at least. Also, preferably all 3 would be job/education related, and if any, just 1 who is a "friend".

I've never worked at the same place for 5 years straight, so how the heck am I gonna pull this off?

...Or was the recruiting Sgt. just telling me the "ideal" references.

Hey - I can't pull a rabbit out of a hat, ya know? Anyone up to speed on the exact wording on the application regarding references, and who they can be?

Thanks.
 
On the reference form it states that ONE of the 3 references must have known you for 5 years or longer. I had a hard time with this at first, but did find someone. (youth leader, teacher, adult long time family friend... so on)

Good Luck.
 
So the other two can be anyone you want I presume?

And can the 5-year person be a friend who also happened to be your boss at a job you were both at for a couple years? (In total he's known me for around 20 years...)

Thanks
 
I'm no recruiter, but I don't see why not. I used an ex's dad for my long term reference who happened to be one of my cadet leaders at one point too. They accepted that, and said they just needed someone who knew me enough to provide a character reference that wasn't related to me.

Hope that helps.
 
Awesome - Thanks. The other two will be close friends. (One is a Dr., and the other is a municipal Security Officer).

I'm hoping this will suffice. Thanks again for your help.
 
Hello,

I was wondering if a girlfriend who ive had SINCE 16 is a proper reference for the 'personal' one. She isnt really family.. yet.
jobs@forces.ca wouldnt give me a awnser.

thanks
 
;D

You don't have a former coach, teacher, employer or someone similar that can act as a reference? Or did you burn those bridges?
 
Moody said:
;D

You don't have a former coach, teacher, employer or someone similar that can act as a reference? Or did you burn those bridges?
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That was not my question.

I was asking solely on the personal one

It asks for a Personal, Employer and Education. Employer and Education ARE covered. And what personal wouldnt most likely be biased? It states friends are fine, which i know wouldnt go saying im a dirtbag and all that.
 
Personal References: These persons are neighbours, family friends, religious/spiritual leaders or community leaders who have
known you through various stages of your life.

Family friends are those that know you family not just you so no your personal friends are not acceptable.  Find a family friend, a professional is perfect, who has known you and YOUR FAMILY since you were 16 years old.  This is not rocket science.
 
Who Can Be a Reference?
Any adult, who is not immediate family or a relative, can act as a reference. Your references must have known you for at least five
(5) continuous years (or to age 16, whichever comes first). It is advisable to choose references who can provide information about
you from a variety of different perspectives. These people must be able to tell the interviewer about your personal character.
• Employment References: These persons are former or current co-workers, supervisors or employers.
• Educational References: These persons are former or current teachers, professors or coaches who will attest to how quickly
you learn and how diligent you are/ were as a student.
• Personal References: These persons are neighbours, family friends, religious/spiritual leaders or community leaders who have
known you through various stages of your life.

http://64.254.158.97/pdf/letter_ref_en.pdf
 
Marshall said:
That was not my question.

I was asking solely on the personal one

It asks for a Personal, Employer and Education. Employer and Education ARE covered. And what personal wouldnt most likely be biased? It states friends are fine, which i know wouldnt go saying im a dirtbag and all that.
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I don't think you have to chose one personal, one professional, and one educational. Those are examples of references. For example, I had two former employers and a colleague.

(There, I populated my double post)
 
I would suggest asking a good friend or their parents, somebody who has known you for quite some time.
 
If you are part of any clubs, sports teams, or community involvement, the leaders of those groups make very good personal references.
 
In the application form I got. It says I need 3 refrences, all of which have to have known me for 5 years? I cant think of anyone who's known me for 5 years!! I've never had a job before. And the only people that have known my for 5 years, aside from family, are my two coaches.
 
Moody said:
Who Can Be a Reference?
Any adult, who is not immediate family or a relative, can act as a reference. Your references must have known you for at least five
(5) continuous years (or to age 16, whichever comes first). It is advisable to choose references who can provide information about
you from a variety of different perspectives. These people must be able to tell the interviewer about your personal character.
• Employment References: These persons are former or current co-workers, supervisors or employers.
• Educational References: These persons are former or current teachers, professors or coaches who will attest to how quickly
you learn and how diligent you are/ were as a student.
• Personal References: These persons are neighbours, family friends, religious/spiritual leaders or community leaders who have
known you through various stages of your life.

http://64.254.158.97/pdf/letter_ref_en.pdf

I've never had a job, so I cant use an employment referance...Also, I havent lived in this city for very long. So aside from my two coaches, there's no one I've known for at least 5 years. What do I do about this?
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