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Yep paracowboy I have read the other threads and do not dispute that you are exactly right. The problem I have though is that all the training I did before bmq, weights, etc didn't do me much good when once I got there I had no access to weight training.
The focus at bmq pt was on running, running and more running. In fact, one could argue that some of the training there decreases one's upper body strength.
The fact that we did the confidence course the day before the re-test didn't help either. Don't get me wrong. I totally accept responsibility for not doing more pushups. I know I messed up. That is why I am even more determined to overcome my pushup challenge.
I know now what I did wrong and I won't make the same mistake twice.
Your advice is invaluable and I've read it many times. Thank you for taking the time. Like the instructors I had at bmq I am very appreciative of the fact that soldiers like them and you give of your expertise and time the way you do. I'll continue to read yours and other's wise advice and heed it!
The focus at bmq pt was on running, running and more running. In fact, one could argue that some of the training there decreases one's upper body strength.
The fact that we did the confidence course the day before the re-test didn't help either. Don't get me wrong. I totally accept responsibility for not doing more pushups. I know I messed up. That is why I am even more determined to overcome my pushup challenge.
I know now what I did wrong and I won't make the same mistake twice.
Your advice is invaluable and I've read it many times. Thank you for taking the time. Like the instructors I had at bmq I am very appreciative of the fact that soldiers like them and you give of your expertise and time the way you do. I'll continue to read yours and other's wise advice and heed it!
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I won't say for certain, but I do think the reason is that the staff are no longer allowed to hand out push-ups as punishment the way they used to. I used to do at least 100 push ups before morning inspection was over. You'd pump 'em out all day in Basic and Battle School. It wasn't even an issue on the PT tests. "He only wants how many? Awesome!"
This lowering of standards really chokes me. Not only is it weakening the CF, but it's completely unfair to the candidates today. They don't get pushed nearly as far, they don't get challenged the same way, and consequently, they don't realize their true potential.
Recruits and wannabe's today don't learn just what they are truly capable of. And it's a shame, because they are capable of so much.
Troops (and those wish to be), there are still challenges to be faced once you get through Basic and your trades training. And those challenges are more than worth it. There is no feeling on Earth to compare with accomplishing something you never believed was possible.
I won't say for certain, but I do think the reason is that the staff are no longer allowed to hand out push-ups as punishment the way they used to. I used to do at least 100 push ups before morning inspection was over. You'd pump 'em out all day in Basic and Battle School. It wasn't even an issue on the PT tests. "He only wants how many? Awesome!"
This lowering of standards really chokes me. Not only is it weakening the CF, but it's completely unfair to the candidates today. They don't get pushed nearly as far, they don't get challenged the same way, and consequently, they don't realize their true potential.
Recruits and wannabe's today don't learn just what they are truly capable of. And it's a shame, because they are capable of so much.
Troops (and those wish to be), there are still challenges to be faced once you get through Basic and your trades training. And those challenges are more than worth it. There is no feeling on Earth to compare with accomplishing something you never believed was possible.
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Please allow me to pass on some ancient wisdom: If you suck at pushups, DO FUCKING PUSHUPS! LOTS OF THEM! ALL THE TIME!! There, you now know the eternal secret of improving at pushups. Next week we'll cover the intricacies of the sit-up, and don't forget to sign up in the lobby for my symposium on mastery of the six foot wall.
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paracowboy said:
Yes, you're right they don't make the recruits do too many pushups. Although one platoon seemed to do them all the time. It was the all male platoon. I think it does weaken the recruits not to do pushups. We should have done a helluva lot more pushups for punishment and if we did them wrong, we should have had to keep doing them until we got it right. Oh boy, when I get to be an instructor .....uh that's another story!
I think this 'kindler, gentler' approach might work in some ways, but let's face it...we're supposed to be training to fight for this country. If we don't find out what we're made of in training, it's going to be disastrous in the years ahead.
Personally I found bmq easy. Now I'm 45 yrs old and if I found it easy (except, admittedly, for the pushups) then I think we could push the limits of endurance much harder. I could have handled more. I'm hope the winter course will be more challenging.
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for anyone who wants to know,
I had found a way to help increase push ups. When at the gym and working on the bench press, after every set on the bench I would get down and do as many push ups as I could. This increased my ability to do push ups and also helped with my bench press.
for anyone who wants to know,
I had found a way to help increase push ups. When at the gym and working on the bench press, after every set on the bench I would get down and do as many push ups as I could. This increased my ability to do push ups and also helped with my bench press.
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What a great idea..
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4-5 days ago i got sick and stopped my working out/exercising. Today i started feeling better again and started up my exercises again.
To my surprise i could barely do my pushups i could do 4-5 days ago. I went from being about to do 25-30 pushups to being able to only do 15.
Now, hours after i only did the 15 push ups, my shoulders are still killing. It's bothering me because a week ago i could do 25 EASY and any pain i had after would be gone within minutes.
I guess it's just because i havent worked those muscles in a while? I'm hoping to slowly do more and more each day to work myself back up, but it's just bothering me that in 5 days i lost the ability to do 10 push ups.
Any suggestions?
To my surprise i could barely do my pushups i could do 4-5 days ago. I went from being about to do 25-30 pushups to being able to only do 15.
Now, hours after i only did the 15 push ups, my shoulders are still killing. It's bothering me because a week ago i could do 25 EASY and any pain i had after would be gone within minutes.
I guess it's just because i havent worked those muscles in a while? I'm hoping to slowly do more and more each day to work myself back up, but it's just bothering me that in 5 days i lost the ability to do 10 push ups.
Any suggestions?
yeah, some days I can do 30 pushups, others I can only do 18-19... as for running, same thing. some days I can only run a couple of km until I have to stop to a walk. Others I can run 4-5km... however I'm thinking that this isn't nearly enough for bmq.. and with the date only a little over a month away, I'm getting a little worried.
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Fry, maybe the problem is with every day. You should give your muscles a rest. There are plenty of threads on here, and paracowboy writes quite extensively on it.
Maybe you need to change up your routine. If I do weights 3 x week, then aerobics (biking, running, etc) on the opposite days, with one day of either rest or just walking, light excercise I find it helps.
Your muscles need time in between work outs. Like I said, there are plenty of posters on here much more eloquent and knowledgeable than me, so check out those threads if you're worried.
Maybe you need to change up your routine. If I do weights 3 x week, then aerobics (biking, running, etc) on the opposite days, with one day of either rest or just walking, light excercise I find it helps.
Your muscles need time in between work outs. Like I said, there are plenty of posters on here much more eloquent and knowledgeable than me, so check out those threads if you're worried.
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