North Korea (Superthread)

[tomahawk6]

President Trump has agreed to stopping war games in south Korea. It was something the North has complained about.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-to-stop-war-games-in-south-korea-trump-says/ar-AAywWMA?ocid=spartandhp

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

This is a truly interesting time.  I wonder if the Kim Regime will eventually go the way of China under Deng Xiaoping?  Maybe that is Kim's goal?

I don't care what people say about Trump or this summit, any move to make the world a safer place is a good move in my books!

 

[dimsum]

This is a truly interesting time.  I wonder if the Kim Regime will eventually go the way of China under Deng Xiaoping?  Maybe that is Kim's goal?

I don't care what people say about Trump or this summit, any move to make the world a safer place is a good move in my books!

Agreed, but I'm not convinced that Trump make this happen (with Dennis Rodman).  This has "China" written all over it.

 

[QV]

Agreed, but I'm not convinced that Trump make this happen (with Dennis Rodman).  This has "China" written all over it.

There is no doubt China had a lot of influence on NK - thanks to pressure from Trump.

If you disagree, curious then as to why this didn't happen under Obama's eight years? Or Bush, or Clinton...or...

 

[tomahawk6]

Dictators have self interest with regard to their continuation.Kim isn't going away unless deposed which probably not going to happen unless China makes it happen.

 

[GAP]

Clinton got played by the same type of rhetoric put out by NK....no meeting, lots of promises, lessening of restrictions, etc....it was all a sham to cover illicit activity
:2c:

 

[tomahawk6]

Anything that lessens the threat of war is good for everyone.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

President Trump has agreed to stopping war games in south Korea. It was something the North has complained about.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-to-stop-war-games-in-south-korea-trump-says/ar-AAywWMA?ocid=spartandhp

And as soon as NK breaks their agreement, a wargame can start.

 

[tomahawk6]

You would be correct that said wargames could be restarted.Maybe deploy a battle group. ;D

 

[tomahawk6]

The latest nit to pick is that Trump saluted a North Korean General. :tsktsk:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-returns-salute-of-north-korean-general-at-summit-state-media-footage-reveals/ar-AAyDTTQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=yuQwntXCq5o

 

[Good2Golf]

The latest nit to pick is that Trump saluted a North Korean General. :tsktsk:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-returns-salute-of-north-korean-general-at-summit-state-media-footage-reveals/ar-AAyDTTQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=yuQwntXCq5o

??? Not sure what protocol MSN's retired Admiral is referring to, but the North Korean general out of respect (deference) was saluting the visiting Head of State, or more accurately in military circles, the U.S. Military Commander-in-Chief (CinC/CINC).  US CINC returning a salute is a respectful acknowledgement of the originating protocol deference.

I may not always see things the way Trump supporters do, but in this case, those complaining are way off the mark.  The only awkwardness was perhaps POTUS going for a handshake first, but in the confines inside, that's understandable and certainly not worthy of molehills being ballooned into mountains.

:2c:

Regards
G2G

 

[Remius]

Agreed. People are making more of a deal out of this than it should be.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I have full confidence in Kim playing games and Trump saying FU, lets have a wargame. There will be little patience for NK games during this POTUS tenure.

 

[tomahawk6]

The Pentagon hasn't canceled the war games yet. :

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pentagon-hasnt-yet-issued-instructions-on-ending-war-games/ar-AAyHNGq

 

[tomahawk6]

Initially the initial return is of 200 US and allied MIA from the war.

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/us-prepares-for-return-of-war-dead-remains-from-north-korea-1.533741

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Memorial_Cemetery#/media/File:UN_Memorial_Cemetery.JPG

 

[tomahawk6]

Coffins were moved to Panmunjaum in case the North makes the return happen.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/report-us-send-caskets-nkorea-return-war-remains-56103519

 

[mariomike]

"Identifying remains of U.S. war dead returned by North Korea will be tricky: experts"
https://milnet.ca/forums/threads/128290.0.html
“With no exception, every North Korean claim associated with human remains has shown to be false. For example, these 46 sets are actually fragments of more than 70 individuals,” the report said. Forensic analyses suggested none were American, the report said."

 

[Altair]

Kim ramping up nuclear fuel production.

 

[tomahawk6]

Sounds like its time to reschedule the war games and ramp up sanctions.

 

[Journeyman]

Sounds like its time to reschedule the war games and ramp up sanctions.

No, it sounds like growing understanding that maybe.... just maybe.... 'the great negotiator'... isn't.

North Korea as preamble?
Despite reasonable analysts scratching their heads, Trump got praise from Fox and his circle of synchophants for giving North Korea stuff they weren't even asking for in exchange for nothing.  I can't wait to see what he gives Putin.
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