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Movies about Iraq war plentiful at Toronto film festival

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Might be odd to post this here, but since many Canadian civilians I speak with about Afghanistan seem to think that it's Iraq, or that the two are the same, what impact will these anti-war films have on Canadian public opinion? Will they look at DePalma's portrayal of insane rapist Marines and see Canadian soldiers in that light?  Or believe that the events depicted in any of these films are examples of frequent occurrences in Afghanistan?

I would like to believe no, but many I have spoken too seem to think that our war is a Vietnam movie in the desert.
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Movies about Iraq war plentiful at Toronto film festival
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070910/ENT_tiff_IRAQ_080910/20070910?hub=Entertainment

Updated Mon. Sep. 10 2007 3:19 PM ET

Canadian Press

Elliot Ruiz is movie-star handsome and delivers a memorable performance in "The Battle for Haditha," one of a crop of war-themed films premiering this year at the Toronto International Film Festival.

So where did the docudrama's director, Britain's Nick Broomfield, find the 23-year-old Philadelphia native who's already caught the attention of Will Smith's production company? In the U.S. Marine Corps.

All the marines in "The Battle for Haditha," in fact, are played by real-life military men, including Canadian Eric Mehalacopoulos, who joined the marines when he was 18 after moving to the United States. Both Ruiz and the Montreal-born Mehalacopoulos have had tours of duty in Iraq.

That actual marines would be interested in acting in a film that had the potential to portray them as a band of psychopathic killers speaks volumes about the political climate four years into a prolonged and bloody conflict that's killed tens of thousands of Iraqis and almost 4,000 American troops.

"I didn't want the film to make the marines look bad," the 26-year-old Mehalacopoulos says over coffee at a downtown hotel. "But I do think the war's wrong. I'm not going to lie. I don't think it's right. There's a lot of people dying."

War-themed movies are plentiful at this year's festival, including Brian DePalma's scathing "Redacted," talk-show host Phil Donahue's directorial debut "Body of War," and Paul Haggis's "In the Valley of Elah."

But with the exception of DePalma's film, which explores the rape of a young Iraqi girl by a group of monstrous marines, there are precious few flinty-eyed villains to be found in battle fatigues patrolling the dusty, deadly villages of Iraq.

The true ogres, most of the filmmakers suggest, are the ones in Washington who sent the troops into Iraq and are calling the shots.

Even in the Reese Witherspoon-Jake Gyllenhaal movie "Rendition," a film not about the Iraq war but the assault on civil liberties in the aftermath of 9-11, it's Meryl Streep's CIA director who seems even more of a sociopath than the men she hopes are torturing the truth out of terror suspects in Egypt.

While some of the marines in "In the Valley of Elah" are most certainly psychopathic, Haggis makes it clear that it was their time in Iraq that has caused their transformations from dutiful sons to short-fused killers.

And "Body of War" is a sympathetic look at 25-year-old Tomas Young, paralyzed from a bullet to his spine after serving in Iraq for less than a week. He signed up after 9-11 thinking he was going to Afghanistan, but ended up in Iraq instead.

Broomfield's film masterfully manages not only to show the war from the Iraqi perspective, but to humanize the marines, even as they execute 24 innocent and unarmed Iraqi men, women and children in retaliation for a roadside bomb that killed one of the U.S. men.

The film doesn't truly vilify anyone, not the men who plant the bomb nor the jittery soldiers who commit a terrible crime in a moment of madness - but who were, in fact, following standard marines procedure to take out everyone in a house if it's believed to be "hostile."

"They're little kids, these guys who join," Broomfield says. "I hate the way they join the army and they turn into killing machines, but you can't blame the marines. If you teach a dog to be an attack dog, which is what they are, don't be surprised when they attack."

Broomfield is blunt: he hopes his movie and others like it will persuade the U.S. government to pull their troops out of Iraq.

"What I like about all these movies is they are all agents of social change," says Broomfield, the cutting-edge documentarian behind 1998's "Kurt and Courtney."

"It's the runup to the American election so it's an important time to influence the American public now in a way that goes beyond the television news. You can hear on TV that 24 unarmed Iraqi civilians were killed, but you don't get the human story, you don't get to know who these people were and what they were doing at the time. And what cinema can do is to humanize these stories and make them very real to us so we can make more informed decisions about a withdrawal from Iraq."

From the perspective of marines Mehalacopoulos and Ruiz, Broomfield nailed it - both the state of relentless anxiety they lived with every day in Iraq and the true face of Arab culture, much of it focused on children and family.

"It's real, all of that stuff in the movie - it's from us and from what we went through and what we saw," Mehalacopoulos says.

Ruiz adds: "Nick got the real thing. He didn't take sides. You even see the terrorist who planted the bomb and then feels bad about it later. Everybody is a human being in the movie."
 
"Movies about Iraq war plentiful at Toronto film festival "

Hardly surprising.  That's just the reality-based community living in their customary vicarious fashion.
 
Broomfield is blunt: he hopes his movie and others like it will persuade the U.S. government to pull their troops out of Iraq.

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"It's the runup to the American election so it's an important time to influence the American public now in a way that goes beyond the television news.

::)  Regardless on ones thoughts of the inital invasion - no one (who has a clue) can argue against the current mission of stability.  To do so just points out how clueless some people really are in the reality on the ground.

Just my 0.02 from the ground.
 
I tell ya, in my opinion when young radical muslims see a movie with islamic women being raped what will that do? Create more hatred towards the west. It will motivate many.

It is counter productive. How many muslims will be outraged and possibly vent this thru violence, maybe against our troops? Rape is not a common thing in Iraq, but one movie says and shows it is. What shyte!

I don't think the majority US public can be hoodwinked by such trash.

Movies of this calibre are a disgrace for those who are fighting now, and those who have been killed or wounded.

Blood will be on the director's hands!


Wes
 
Not sure if this thread belongs here, maybe the literature and film one is better suited
anyway
I'll watch the movies discussed here, but do far the only genre of movie I seen on Iraq that has anywhere near what I can believe, and from the sounds of things still will be, came out 3 years ago, called Gunners Palace
(also discussed here http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/23729.0.html)

If you're into freestylin check out this clip
http://youtube.com/watch?v=swHCCHKcfVw
Maybe this current crop of "truth sayers" ought to listen to the last part of SPC Richmon Shaw's freesstyle that begins about the 1 minute mark in the video
"No need to like this, but please respect it".
 
I was watching a show on t.v. last night that was interviewing some of the directors of these movies.  The one director said that the reason why he had done the movie was because he wanted to bring attention to some of the more negative aspects of war that you don't see in the media. (forgive me if it's misquoted but I couldn't find the quote online and i'm just working from memory).  But probably 70-80% of the news coverage has been on negative aspects of the wars, whether in Afghanistan or Iraq.  I had to find out from Wikipedia that Canadians had been awarded medals during the war, didn't hear one peep from the media about that.
 
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