Math for signals

[PuckChaser]

Perhaps its smaller units doing it first, but I know my unit has at least all the SigOps tagged for where they will be going.

 

[REDinstaller]

We have done a loose list, but it still only applies to positions not to troops. That will take a while yet to determine who should be what due to quals, not desire.

 

[Robbie4296]

Just asking a question from the beginning of the thread, I read that you can obtain a sample of the CFAT test from the Recruiting office, now is this the same one that is available for download on the CF website or is it something that the give you pertaining to your trade?

 

[PMedMoe]

Just asking a question from the beginning of the thread, I read that you can obtain a sample of the CFAT test from the Recruiting office, now is this the same one that is available for download on the CF website or is it something that the give you pertaining to your trade?

More than likely the same (or similar) as the one on the CF website.  I'm pretty sure there isn't a CFAT "pertaining to a trade" as that is what CFAT results are used to determine.

Is this the one you mean?  http://www.forces.ca/media/_PDF/preparing_for_aptitude_test_en.pdf

 

[Robbie4296]

Yes thats the one ,

 

[sky777]

More than likely the same (or similar) as the one on the CF website.  I'm pretty sure there isn't a CFAT "pertaining to a trade" as that is what CFAT results are used to determine.

Is this the one you mean?  http://www.forces.ca/media/_PDF/preparing_for_aptitude_test_en.pdf

I have heard from people who passed CFAT that your example is much easy according to reality.
Is it true?
It means for preparing we will need much harder  examples.
But some people think that there is not preparation for CFAT.If you have math skills - you will pass test.

 

[PMedMoe]

I will probably agree that the actual test may be harder for some people. 

There are several places on the internet that have similar practice tests.

 

[Neolithium]

Before I wrote my CFAT I was browsing through some of the existing threads, time and again people had suggested doing some of the online IQ Tests.  At the time it sounded a bit silly to me, however it proved to be pretty sound advice that I'm glad I followed. 

 

[Robbie4296]

I will probably agree that the actual test may be harder for some people. 

There are several places on the internet that have similar practice tests.

Could you post a link on these similar practise threads, Thanks

 

[Neolithium]

Could you post a link on these similar practise threads, Thanks

These were some of the links which helped me brush up on things.
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/17703/post-673001.html#msg673001

 

[sky777]

Try this also:

http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/ppc-cpp/pract-test-examn-pract/index-eng.htm

Also you can watch military US test  (ASVAB).It can help you to train your brain.
http://books.google.com/books?q=ASVAB

 

[Robbie4296]

Much thanks!

 

[bigabe]

That's not math, just like IP addressing isn't math. There's numbers involved, but...

As a friendly occupational rivalry, I'm just going to guess you're an Op not a Tech.

I've seen this twice now on major exercise. 

Now, let's say theres 200 people in this Biv and a few hardworking techs and linemen have ran the fibre and copper all over the place to get every tent a handful of connections and a few patch cables so they can have internet on their cots and talk to mommy.  This same network is actually being used by a CO doing his distance education, an RSM emailing everyones charge reports etc.

I've only ever seen HCLOS's with crappy ZyXel (sp?) $15 walmart routers, and I've definitely never seen a lineman with a CISCO cert to serial into the switches.

So, here's your situation.  A router into a net of switches running over 500 drops in the field.  500 connections on an HCLOS is unusable.  How do you make sure that the CO's laptop is always connected (and his iPhone) and that the cook watching porn doesn't get the IP address if there isn't space?  Then how do you make sure a guy turning on a laptop in the TOC/JOC will take precedence over the mechanic who is skyping the other mechanics daughter?

You have to use subnetting.  255.255.255.0 that you've seen in your internet settings isn't arbitrary.  Now, you can't just type  255.255.255.5 either. 

With several crucial topics aside (OSI Layer 3, Network Classes A,B,C, 24 bits per octet etc)
If you have 185 "Recreational" connections in the camp, you need to understand this chart:

128  64  32  16  8  4  2  1
---    --    --    --    -    -    -  -
1    0    1    1    1  0  0  1

128 +  0 + 32  +16 + 8 + 0 + 0 + 1 = 185

Thats just binary conversion from 185 to 10111001.  To figure out the mask so you can separate the subnets you're getting into Class Code:255-(2^'Range')
so 255.255.255.254 is valid but .253 is not  xxx.192 is valid but xxx.198 is not etc.  Follow me? 

ALL OF THAT, just to plug majic interweb wires into porno screens to make the jimmy happy.

Yup.  Fighting the network fight.

Dude, there is SOOOO much math involved with Ip addresses.  [/rant]

P.S.  All of the above information found in your local QL5 qualified LCIS techs head.  Its all from our 5's.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

P.S.  All of the above information found in your local QL5 qualified LCIS techs head.  Its all from our 5's.

And a fair amount of CFSCE OSQ Courses (mainly CSN, Win Server Admin) and if you're lucky a CISCO CCNA course. All of which I, an Operator have attended and have used regulary in my current position. 

 

[PuckChaser]

hardworking techs and linemen

To continue the friendly rivalry: quoted phrase is an oxymoron.  ;D

 

[CommTech13]

I have heard from people who passed CFAT that your example is much easy according to reality.
Is it true?
It means for preparing we will need much harder  examples.
But some people think that there is not preparation for CFAT.If you have math skills - you will pass test.

Well first off the sample tests on forces.ca are better suited to demonstrate the format of the test, and the nature of the questions that will be asked, rather than the difficulty of the question.

Ok well i took the CFAT yesterday, and my trade choice is LCIS tech. Here's the deal in my opinion, the verbal is hard enough that you could benefit from brushing up on some of the less commonly used words in English language... let's just say they use words that are more complicated than dog - but with this being said I think they put the least amount of 'scrutiny' on your score in this section (maybe because I'm going for a tech position, quite possibly varies with your specific trade choices). The spatial section is something that your are skilled at, or aren't, not much you can do here. For the math part you could definitely benefit greatly from working on your multiplication, division, and ratios. I don't want to give too much away so if I did please just delete the post, but my point here being the best way to prepare is to brush up on those math skills, in my opinion.

 

[Robbie4296]

Yes agreed, took the test that were posted on the link above and compared to the practise one supplied by CFRC, big difference some stuff is similar but overall a test is a test.

 

[Neolithium]

And a fair amount of CFSCE OSQ Courses (mainly CSN, Win Server Admin) and if you're lucky a CISCO CCNA course. All of which I, an Operator have attended and have used regulary in my current position. 

CCNA Course? Thanks! Something else to put into my long term goals list, I've wanted to take the plunge into Cisco gear for a long time; unfortunately their enterprise-level pricing makes even their distance-learning certifications....ridiculously expensive.

 

[bigabe]

To continue the friendly rivalry: quoted phrase is an oxymoron.  ;D

I just laughed and shot chunks of cereal across my living room.  Mostly because its true.  I mean, I am eating cereal in my own living room at 1130 on a weekday.

CCNA Course? Thanks! Something else to put into my long term goals list, I've wanted to take the plunge into Cisco gear for a long time; unfortunately their enterprise-level pricing makes even their distance-learning certifications....ridiculously expensive.

clackity clackity ... filling out online ILP form... clackity clackity ...*poof* now doing the distance ed Cisco course on DNDs dime. 

 

[PuckChaser]

clackity clackity ... filling out online ILP form... clackity clackity ...*poof* now doing the distance ed Cisco course on DNDs dime.

He's not in yet, but will probably just have to pick IST as his sub occ to get the Cisco course.