Freedom Convoy protests [Split from All things 2019-nCoV]

[Furniture]

In other news, the convoy navy has arrived.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1494332726752649220

The spring thaw is coming, maybe he's onto something...

 

[Haggis]

Ya, no kidding. If I'm following the flurry of media coverage correctly, she signed up the ex-chief of Waterloo Regional. The Board gets to do that, but she isn't the Board. The Police Services Act gives the hire-fire authority to the Board, but the 'how' is not codified. Most hire consultants/head hunters, set up community committees, etc. (sometimes endlessly, like Toronto) but they are not compelled to.

This is board governance 101. Apparently a couple of other Board members resigned as well. Sounds like some fun factioning going on. Too often, municipal politics in Ontario is like a dysfunctional family TV sitcom.

And we all thought the convoy was the only show in town.

 

[Kirkhill]

Cpunterpoint

Kazakhstan Investigates 181 Cases Related to Mass Riots and Terrorism During January Unrest - The Astana Times

Kazakhstan Investigates 181 Cases Related to Mass Riots and Terrorism During January Unrest

astanatimes.com

Or this, mostly peaceful but fiery protest,



Or

George Floyd protests in Portland, Oregon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Winds]

Apparently the CEO of B'nai Brith has weighed in on the PM's recent comments to MP Melissa Lantsman,:

“B’nai Brith Canada unequivocally condemns any display of swastikas. We also believe it is not acceptable to respond to a Jewish MP’s question in the House of Commons with a comment that can be perceived by Canadians as suggesting her support,” said Michael Mostyn, CEO of B’nai Brith. “This misperception should not be permitted to stand. We would hope the prime minister promptly addresses this matter.”

WARMINGTON: Accusing Jewish MP of 'standing with swastika' new low for PM

A Jewish Conservative MP is demanding an apology from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, insisting he falsely accused her and her colleagues of “standing with a…

torontosun.com

I am unsure on what grounds the convoy is being dismissed as "standing with the swastika". Recent counter-protests in Ottawa prominently displayed the Soviet Flag, does that mean they are also sided with defunct totalitarian regimes responsible for mass genocide?

 

[Brad Sallows]

Hard to reconcile sudden disavowal of symbols of hate by people travelling in the tribe that for so long had pictures of Lenin, Mao, Castro, Che etc on their walls and t-shirts.

 

[FSTO]

Hard to reconcile sudden disavowal of symbols of hate by people travelling in the tribe that for so long had pictures of Lenin, Mao, Castro, Che etc on their walls and t-shirts.

Well as long as there is no picture of Stalin its all good right?

 

[OldSolduer]

Hard to reconcile sudden disavowal of symbols of hate by people travelling in the tribe that for so long had pictures of Lenin, Mao, Castro, Che etc on their walls and t-shirts.

These people do not understand true Communism. If they did most would be quick to disavow it. I bet some would embrace it with enthusiasm though.

 

[mariomike]

Will the "Freedom" rally, and political team(s) which embrace it, influence Jewish ( or Sikh community ) voters in the next election?

Watch what happens when the normally-Team red friendly Sikh community from 604 and 416/905 starts to question Team Red’s lack of support…

Just have to watch what happens...

 

[Remius]

These people do not understand true Communism. If they did most would be quick to disavow it. I bet some would embrace it with enthusiasm though.

Both sides don’t understand true communism, the ones cheering and hoping for it and the other side that thinks that is where a Canada is at.

Extreme arguments from both sides.

 

[KevinB]

These people do not understand true Communism. If they did most would be quick to disavow it. I bet some would embrace it with enthusiasm though.

I'd argue there is no such thing - outside of very small hippie communes.
That only exist in a Democratic country (ironic right?)

 

[Brad Sallows]

Supporters of communism often respond to critics with "True communism has never been tried"; they are partially correct. True communism has never been achieved, but it certainly has been tried. It always goes off the rails because people are unsuited to communism. People duck out on the "from each according to his ability" part, and increasing force (tyranny) becomes necessary to try to stitch everything together.

Stalin, like Pol Pot, is enough of an embarrassment that he doesn't make the t-shirt list. But it must be a hell of a threshold for embarrassment if the others do make the list.

But the contemporary happy horsesh!t that sometimes emanates from well-known people supporting the Chinese government is enough to call them out.

 

[Good2Golf]

And there it is…

Trudeau minister threatens to seize accounts of 'pro-Trump' convoy donors

David Lametti was questioned about whether people who made donations to the trucker convoy will have accounts seized.

torontosun.com

The justice minister in Justin Trudeau’s government has said that if you hold the wrong political views, you should be worried about your bank account.

and using such sweeping and (not so) precisely defined scope and wording as:

“If you are a member of a pro-Trump movement [how is this defined?] who is donating hundreds of thousands of dollars, and millions of dollars to this kind of thing, [protest, blockade, what?] then you ought to be worried,” Lametti said.

…but trust the Government…

The declaration of emergency goes so far as to “require any financial service provider to determine whether they have in their possession or control property that belongs to a person who participates in the blockade.” That could see the bank accounts of people who attended the protest but didn’t fund them frozen at the direction of the government.

…and what other activities?

PMJT edges closer to his admired political role model, so it might seem.

 

[QV]

And there it is…

Trudeau minister threatens to seize accounts of 'pro-Trump' convoy donors

David Lametti was questioned about whether people who made donations to the trucker convoy will have accounts seized.

torontosun.com

and using such sweeping and (not so) precisely defined scope and wording as:



…but trust the Government…



…and what other activities?

PMJT edges closer to his admired political role model, so it might seem.

Curious, is there a single person here that supports this?

 

[Kat Stevens]

In other news, the convoy navy has arrived.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1494332726752649220

And the RCN yields the battlespace as they are hopelessly out gunned.

 

[Halifax Tar]

And the RCN yields the battlespace as they are hopelessly out gunned.

Hey! My Martini Henry will hold out like Rourkes Drift

 

[Halifax Tar]

And there it is…

Trudeau minister threatens to seize accounts of 'pro-Trump' convoy donors

David Lametti was questioned about whether people who made donations to the trucker convoy will have accounts seized.

torontosun.com

and using such sweeping and (not so) precisely defined scope and wording as:



…but trust the Government…



…and what other activities?

PMJT edges closer to his admired political role model, so it might seem.

Will they be ok with this when they lose and election and Pandora's box turns around on them ?

 

[Furniture]

Hey! My Martini Henry will hold out like Rourkes Drift

Only if you have enough top tenors compared to their bass section...

 

[OldSolduer]

Will they be ok with this when they lose and election and Pandora's box turns around on them ?

This proposed action needs a swift and severe push back. Constitutional lawyers and the civil liberties people should publicly scold him and his master for this COA.

 

[OldSolduer]

Both sides don’t understand true communism, the ones cheering and hoping for it and the other side that thinks that is where a Canada is at.

Extreme arguments from both sides.

Agreed on this. I often laugh at people wearing Che T shirts. They really have no clue about him.

 

[Kirkhill]

This is American.

But I suggest it applies in Canada, the UK, France, Denmark and the rest of the OECD.

“More in Common,” dissected the electorate into seven segments which range from Progressive Activists on the left to Devoted Conservatives on the right. In their October 2018 report, the authors assert that the five groups in the ideological middle (Traditional Liberals, Passive Liberals, Politically Disengaged, Moderates, and Traditional Conservatives) make up an “exhausted majority” that disdains name-calling and polarization, even though they haven’t figured out how to stop it.

“When we first examined the Five Tribes of American voters, we were struck that even when we got beyond current events and the 24-hour political news cycles, Americans were deeply divided about the country we all share,” notes Jonathan Chavez, chief analytics officer for RealClear Opinion Research.

“In the ensuing 3½ years, we’ve only seen those divisions deepen, as disruptions to the daily lives of many have caused many to re-examine some of their most closely held values,” Chavez added. “What I’m most struck by from this survey is that divisions are not just partisan: Within both parties, we see fundamental disagreements about America, its history, and its future.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/real_clear_opinion_research/revisiting_the_five_tribes_of_american_voters.html