Cadpat Appropriate for Wear in Public?

[GO!!!]

Messes are an outdated form of amusement.

With the advent of the base/garrison messes, all of the esprit de corps was removed, and the messes became little more than inefficient, early closing bars. They all seem to be run by francophone former navy stewards, who have no desire to add new products, drinks, events or members.

Really, who wants to go to a well lit bar, with quiet 80s music, no girls, no fun and closes at midnight? Just because we pay for it does'nt make it fun, or a worthwhile enterprise.

IMHO, the messes should be allowed to die if they cannot support themselves without mess dues. I have better uses for my $8.00 per month.

 

[silentbutdeadly]

Sh*t try the Sgt/Wo mess the mafia hits us for $16 and we have to go ! old people holding on to old things !

 

[Deleted member 6930]

This is off topic but ....

If 203 people took the poll .... how can there be a 102 each tie?

Just asking is all. ;D

and the numbers have changed ... thanks for your support ;D

 

[canadianblue]

I just finished BMQ and thought about wearing my dress uniform to church for a Christmas Eve service. Personally I don't have an issue with soldiers going out in uniform in a normal day, and maybe tipping down a beer or two. As long as its professional and presents a good image of the CF.

 

[Pte_Martin]

Messes are an outdated form of amusement.

With the advent of the base/garrison messes, all of the esprit de corps was removed, and the messes became little more than inefficient, early closing bars. They all seem to be run by francophone former navy stewards, who have no desire to add new products, drinks, events or members.

Really, who wants to go to a well lit bar, with quiet 80s music, no girls, no fun and closes at midnight? Just because we pay for it does'nt make it fun, or a worthwhile enterprise.

IMHO, the messes should be allowed to die if they cannot support themselves without mess dues. I have better uses for my $8.00 per month.

I agree with what's said, that's why right now before my reg force transfer I'm hitting our mess, it's cheap beer, and we run it so it's open the hours we want and we have lots of parties there when we want.
The only thing i hate is before we had Flags and other things we "acquired" overseas but we had to take them down because of a fire hazard. Oh well rules are rules

 

[Naralis]

I just finished BMQ and thought about wearing my dress uniform to church for a Christmas Eve service. Personally I don't have an issue with soldiers going out in uniform in a normal day, and maybe tipping down a beer or two. As long as its professional and presents a good image of the CF.

If you decide to do this, please ask your CoC of command first. You might not have an issue with it, but your commanders might. Especially for a recruit fresh off of BMQ. When I had completed BMQ, I wanted to get dressed in uniform to escort a vet around a mock UN conference, but there was a whole lot of red tape to go through. Decided it was better to go in civies in the end.

 

[Gunnerlove]

As a reservist the worst thing that can happen to a unit is a combined Mess. How can you bond with your fellow troops or throw a party with the CO sitting in the corner? Naked beer sliding? not going to happen in a combined mess. 

 

[geo]

Gunner....
The officers have to contend with the CO and the Sr NCOs have the RSM

all in all.... not sure who has the short end of the stick.... and this is as a former RSM myself. Sharing a mess with several units isn't no bed of roses either... Combine a Cbt arms unit with a Log, medical or Comms unit and you have pecking order headaches galore.... you have "it's my mess, not your mess... if you're not happy get out" kneejerk reactions.

Have had some experience with combined messes..... They can work... you just have to work at it.

Remember - Subbies are to be seen - not heard.

 

[GDawg]

I don't know who told you that. I was a Patricia long before you, and we were never told BS like that. CUA was always for replacement of CFs (as Armyvern said, tailoring was covered by the base tailor shop). Field kit is exchangeable. Drycleaning is your own responsibility, except for kit like the sleeping bag, which is called back to supply for cleaning every so often.

Necropost here. This may very well warrant an independent topic in its own right.

I asked at my local ASU about bringing in my sleeping bags to be dry cleaned and they said "We don't do that, that's why you have a liner" and "Dry cleaning is at your own expense"

Now, from my previous experience else where, the CF does indeed cover this service through the local clothing stores section.

I do not have a copy of it in front of me, but I searched the CF Supply Manual and it backs up my claim that the CF does indeed provide laundering service for sleeping bags.

I am wondering, is the CFSM wrong?

If the supply tech I spoke with is out to lunch, how to I remedy this situation?

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Ask for the I/C of clothing would be my suggestion......

 

[BinRat55]

No, someone there is OTL. If they won't dryclean, just ask for an exchange. One for one. You are not responsible for the drycleaning bill.

 

[PuckChaser]

My unit does a bulk dry cleaning once a year for sleeping bags, usually gone about 2 weeks and they come back smelling pretty.....

 

[armyvern]

Necropost here. This may very well warrant an independent topic in its own right.

I asked at my local ASU about bringing in my sleeping bags to be dry cleaned and they said "We don't do that, that's why you have a liner" and "Dry cleaning is at your own expense"

Now, from my previous experience else where, the CF does indeed cover this service through the local clothing stores section.

I do not have a copy of it in front of me, but I searched the CF Supply Manual and it backs up my claim that the CF does indeed provide laundering service for sleeping bags.

I am wondering, is the CFSM wrong?

If the supply tech I spoke with is out to lunch, how to I remedy this situation?

No one is out to lunch.

We provide you with a liner that you are to wash.

Dependant upon the base and how it contracts it's dry-cleaning ... is what your answer rides upon.

Some bases (not Gagetown) have a centralized dry-cleaning contract - others do not.

If your location has a centralized SOA for dry-cleaning, then "usually" 2nd line Supply (thus clothing stores) will dry clean your bag for you.

Most bases however have devolved that funding out to the 1st line Units - as Gagetown has done. That means, we SA'd (transferred) the money to Unit budgets for dry-cleaning from ours. Your Unit goes to the field, then you turn your bag into your Unit QM for dry-cleaning.

In Gagetown, each field Unit QM is responsible to dry-clean the bags. BFoods is responsible to dry clean their cooks' whites. The BHosp is resp to dry-clean their own gowns etc.

Clothing Stores only dry cleans items being turned in to go back into stock. So, for the one who suggested that you turn in your bag and ask for a new one ... that won't happen unless something is wrong with the sleeping bag you already have; if it's still serviceable they aren't going to just exchange it for you to have a dry-cleaned one ... take it to your Unit QM for that (as it would seem that your local ASU has the same policy in effect).

So, the CFSM is correct. The CF certainly does provide for and pay for this service; the CF does - but that doesn't mean that Base Supply (ie Clothing or the MSA) controls/handles it. That would depend upon the local SOA.

 

[armyvern]

No, someone there is OTL. If they won't dryclean, just ask for an exchange. One for one. You are not responsible for the drycleaning bill.

Suggest that you dial 2569 ... and tell them that.  >

Get back to me with her response!!

(Or get Brian to email you the links to the CGSOs, Br SOs and the CSOs).

 

[ruckmarch]

I'll have to vote for the DEU for public functions/events. It's a lot smarter, and it's kind of like our business suit so to speak.

For some of the reasons already mentioned above about how "look-alike" cadpat can be bought online, it kind of makes it hard for the average mr/mrs bloggins on the street to distinguish

Oh...just want to mention that there is always the LEGION, for having a good time. I was at one on the weekend and they had a half decent band in there jamming

 

[GDawg]

I'm on the BTL, so I figure if the ASU/ASG won't do it, its now up to me...

 

[FDO]

In recruiting we find CADPAT is better for events. People identify with that after all the TV coverage. They also identify the Navy with Whites. So for most public events that's how we dress. That being said nothing looks worse than a CADPAT uniform that has a really faded bottom and a brand new top or other way around. Also look how most CADPAT is worn, the butt, back and thighs. Looks like they either sit around all day or wipe their hands on their pant legs. Looks bad all around  regardless of the ironing issues from riding a bus.

 

[aesop081]

I'll have to vote for the DEU for public functions/events.

What kind of public events ?

I seem to do just fine around the public at airshows without being in DEUs.

 

[Smity199]

Just wondering are you allowed to wear your dress uniform when you get married?

 

[aesop081]

Just wondering are you allowed to wear your dress uniform when you get married?

Lots of people do it.