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Positive step in the right direction.
tomahawk6 said:Visual evidence that the RN/RM personnel were inside Iraqi waters.Picture taken by the RN flight crew that viewed the hostage taking.
The capture of the UK crew
The UK government has released details of where it says the 15 sailors and Marines were when they were seized by Iranian forces on 23 March.
# The Ministry of Defence says the merchant ship boarded by a crew from HMS Cornwall on 23 March was 1.7 nautical miles (3.1km) inside Iraqi territorial waters. It says the master of the vessel has confirmed this.
# HMS Cornwall was south-east of the merchant ship, inside Iraqi waters.
# On 24 March the Iranian government told the UK - according to the UK's Ministry of Defence - that the merchant vessel was at a different location, but still within Iraqi waters.
# When the UK pointed out to the Iranians that the location they had given was within Iraqi waters, the Iranians provided a "corrected" location, nearly 1 nautical mile away (1.9km) from its first position but within Iranian waters.
# The UK government disputes both Iranian claims. It says the "corrected" location is more than 2 nautical miles (3.7km) from its own version, as recorded by HMS Cornwall's GPS data equipment. ...
tomahawk6 said:Rosie O'Donnell said much the samething yesterday.There is no conspiracy theory that the left will not embrace.
Huh?time expired said:GEO
What your point?we should sit around and watch, our troops get blown up by IEDs,shot by snipers,mortared by equipment supplied by Iran or let them be taken hostage by said Iranians all safe in the knowledge that sooner our later the Iranian will sort themselfs out.Get a grip man.
So there they are, eight sailors and seven marines in two rubber
boats, with personal weapons and no protection whatever, sitting about a
foot (300 cm) above the water, surrounded by six or seven Iranian attack
boats with mounted machine guns. "Defend yourself" by opening fire, and
after a single long burst from half a dozen heavy machine-guns there will
be fourteen dead young men and one dead young woman in two rapidly sinking
inflatables, and your country will be at war. Seems a bit pointless,
It's a cultural thing, at bottom. Britain has a long history of
fighting wars and taking casualties, but the combat doctrines are less
hairy-chested. British rules of engagement "are very much de-escalatory,
because we don't want wars starting," explained Admiral Sir Alan West,
former First Sea Lord. "Rather than roaring into action and sinking
everything in sight we try to step back, and that, of course, is why our
chaps were...able to be captured and taken away."