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AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

Some news of the day:​

HMCS Preserver will join HMCS Protecteur as the longest naval ships ever built in Canada​

October 27, 2023 – North Vancouver, BC – Today, Seaspan Shipyards (Seaspan) and its more than 3,900 employees were proud to host a ceremonial keel laying event for the Royal Canadian Navy’s (RCN) future HMCS Preserver.

The keel laying is a significant milestone in a ship’s construction, during which a coin is placed near the keel, where it will remain for the duration of the ship’s life. The coin is said to bring good luck to the builders and all those who sail on the vessel. For today’s occasion, a commemorative coin from the Royal Canadian Mint was selected, designed by Esquimalt Nation artist Darlene Gait. The coins were placed in the vessel today by Tyler Robertson, a third-generation pipefitter and 2023 Seaspan apprenticeship graduate supported by the Squamish Nation Training and Trades Centre, and Ordinary Cadet Curtis MacBain, a Sea Cadet from 354 RCSCC Invincible; their joint participation in this milestone event represents the next generation and future of both Seaspan Shipyards and the Royal Canadian Navy.

“Today, Seaspan Shipyards has taken another critical step towards providing the Royal Canadian Navy with the ships they need to go into harm’s way and ensure Canada’s security and sovereignty in an increasingly unstable geopolitical environment,” said John McCarthy, CEO, Seaspan Shipyards. “Through investments in technology, process improvements, and skills upgrading, and by rigorously applying lessons learned from earlier ships we have built, Seaspan is on course to deliver ships faster and for lower cost to Canada.”

The future HMCS Preserver is the second of two Joint Support Ships being built by Seaspan as part of the NSS. Through incorporating lessons learned on the design and construction of JSS1, the second Joint Support Ship is tracking ahead of schedule and efficiencies are seen throughout the build process – from advancements in design and supply chain streamlining, to pre-assembly outfitting in electrical cable installation.

The HMCS Preserver joins HMCS Protecteur as the longest naval ships built in Canada. HMCS Preserver is scheduled for delivery in 2027.

“Today’s keel laying ceremony marks the significant progress being made for the Royal Canadian Navy’s Protecteur-class,” said Rear-Admiral Steve Waddell, Deputy Commander of the Royal Canadian Navy. “Through Canada’s National Shipbuilding Strategy we continue to grow the naval fleet and bolster its capabilities. Bravo Zulu to those who have contributed to all of the work on this tremendous project.”

In addition to designing, building and delivering state-of-the-art ships, Seaspan is also delivering significant socio-economic benefits to Canada as a result of the NSS. Seaspan has helped to rebuild a marine industrial sector, creating thousands of jobs, leveraging a supply chain of more than 700 Canadian suppliers from coast-to-coast, and generating more than $5.7 billion in GDP contributions to Canada since 2011.

“Today marks an important milestone in the work Seaspan has been doing under the National Shipbuilding Strategy. This facility plays a vital role in Canada’s shipbuilding industry, in supporting the Royal Canadian Navy and Coast Guard and is an integral part of both North Vancouver’s maritime heritage and our present local economy,” said The Honourable Jonathan Wilkinson, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources, and Member of Parliament for North Vancouver. “The construction of two Joint Support Ships will create good jobs and help increase the endurance and capability of the Royal Canadian Navy. ”

HMCS Preserver is the fifth ship to be designed and built by Seaspan under the NSS. In 2020, Seaspan completed delivery of CCGS John Cabot, the third and final Offshore Fisheries Science Vessel built for the Canadian Coast Guard and marked the first full class of vessel to be delivered under the NSS. Construction is also underway on the Canadian Coast Guard’s Offshore Oceanographic Science Vessel, and progress is being made to prepare for the start of construction on Canada’s new heavy Polar Icebreaker, the first to be constructed in Canada in 60 years.

QUICK FACTS

  • With a length of 173.7 metres, HMCS Preserver will join HMCS Protecteur as the longest naval ships ever to be built in Canada.
  • HMCS Protecteur and HMCS Preserver will replace the former Protecteur-class Auxiliary Oiler Replenishment vessels. In addition to providing critical at-sea replenishment, these multi-purpose warships will also be capable of seamlessly integrating with any Canadian or allied naval task group, and will significantly extend the range and endurance of these groups through the provision of fuel, ammunition, aviation support, food, spare parts, exercise and gym facilities, and medical and dental care.
  • Seaspan is one of the most modern shipyards in North America, following its privately funded $185M shipyard modernization, development of a skilled workforce of 3,900 and state-of-the-art, purpose-built infrastructure to deliver the entire non-combat fleet.
  • In October 2021, Seaspan celebrated its 10th year as a strategic partner in the NSS: the milestone marked the rebirth of a sustainable, thriving shipbuilding industry of strategic importance to Canada that is delivering ships, economic growth and jobs.
    • Watch the Seaspan-NSS 10th year anniversary video.
  • Seaspan has invested more than $24 million to support education, learning, research, and skills development in the marine industry, with a special focus on reducing barriers for underrepresented groups, bringing a broad range of new talent into the industry and the trades, including more women and Indigenous people, and creating opportunities for youth through internships and apprenticeships.
 

Some news of the day:​

HMCS Preserver will join HMCS Protecteur as the longest naval ships ever built in Canada​

October 27, 2023 – North Vancouver, BC – Today, Seaspan Shipyards (Seaspan) and its more than 3,900 employees were proud to host a ceremonial keel laying event for the Royal Canadian Navy’s (RCN) future HMCS Preserver.

The keel laying is a significant milestone in a ship’s construction, during which a coin is placed near the keel, where it will remain for the duration of the ship’s life. The coin is said to bring good luck to the builders and all those who sail on the vessel. For today’s occasion, a commemorative coin from the Royal Canadian Mint was selected, designed by Esquimalt Nation artist Darlene Gait. The coins were placed in the vessel today by Tyler Robertson, a third-generation pipefitter and 2023 Seaspan apprenticeship graduate supported by the Squamish Nation Training and Trades Centre, and Ordinary Cadet Curtis MacBain, a Sea Cadet from 354 RCSCC Invincible; their joint participation in this milestone event represents the next generation and future of both Seaspan Shipyards and the Royal Canadian Navy.

“Today, Seaspan Shipyards has taken another critical step towards providing the Royal Canadian Navy with the ships they need to go into harm’s way and ensure Canada’s security and sovereignty in an increasingly unstable geopolitical environment,” said John McCarthy, CEO, Seaspan Shipyards. “Through investments in technology, process improvements, and skills upgrading, and by rigorously applying lessons learned from earlier ships we have built, Seaspan is on course to deliver ships faster and for lower cost to Canada.”

The future HMCS Preserver is the second of two Joint Support Ships being built by Seaspan as part of the NSS. Through incorporating lessons learned on the design and construction of JSS1, the second Joint Support Ship is tracking ahead of schedule and efficiencies are seen throughout the build process – from advancements in design and supply chain streamlining, to pre-assembly outfitting in electrical cable installation.

The HMCS Preserver joins HMCS Protecteur as the longest naval ships built in Canada. HMCS Preserver is scheduled for delivery in 2027.

“Today’s keel laying ceremony marks the significant progress being made for the Royal Canadian Navy’s Protecteur-class,” said Rear-Admiral Steve Waddell, Deputy Commander of the Royal Canadian Navy. “Through Canada’s National Shipbuilding Strategy we continue to grow the naval fleet and bolster its capabilities. Bravo Zulu to those who have contributed to all of the work on this tremendous project.”

In addition to designing, building and delivering state-of-the-art ships, Seaspan is also delivering significant socio-economic benefits to Canada as a result of the NSS. Seaspan has helped to rebuild a marine industrial sector, creating thousands of jobs, leveraging a supply chain of more than 700 Canadian suppliers from coast-to-coast, and generating more than $5.7 billion in GDP contributions to Canada since 2011.

“Today marks an important milestone in the work Seaspan has been doing under the National Shipbuilding Strategy. This facility plays a vital role in Canada’s shipbuilding industry, in supporting the Royal Canadian Navy and Coast Guard and is an integral part of both North Vancouver’s maritime heritage and our present local economy,” said The Honourable Jonathan Wilkinson, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources, and Member of Parliament for North Vancouver. “The construction of two Joint Support Ships will create good jobs and help increase the endurance and capability of the Royal Canadian Navy. ”

HMCS Preserver is the fifth ship to be designed and built by Seaspan under the NSS. In 2020, Seaspan completed delivery of CCGS John Cabot, the third and final Offshore Fisheries Science Vessel built for the Canadian Coast Guard and marked the first full class of vessel to be delivered under the NSS. Construction is also underway on the Canadian Coast Guard’s Offshore Oceanographic Science Vessel, and progress is being made to prepare for the start of construction on Canada’s new heavy Polar Icebreaker, the first to be constructed in Canada in 60 years.

QUICK FACTS

  • With a length of 173.7 metres, HMCS Preserver will join HMCS Protecteur as the longest naval ships ever to be built in Canada.
  • HMCS Protecteur and HMCS Preserver will replace the former Protecteur-class Auxiliary Oiler Replenishment vessels. In addition to providing critical at-sea replenishment, these multi-purpose warships will also be capable of seamlessly integrating with any Canadian or allied naval task group, and will significantly extend the range and endurance of these groups through the provision of fuel, ammunition, aviation support, food, spare parts, exercise and gym facilities, and medical and dental care.
  • Seaspan is one of the most modern shipyards in North America, following its privately funded $185M shipyard modernization, development of a skilled workforce of 3,900 and state-of-the-art, purpose-built infrastructure to deliver the entire non-combat fleet.
  • In October 2021, Seaspan celebrated its 10th year as a strategic partner in the NSS: the milestone marked the rebirth of a sustainable, thriving shipbuilding industry of strategic importance to Canada that is delivering ships, economic growth and jobs.
    • Watch the Seaspan-NSS 10th year anniversary video.
  • Seaspan has invested more than $24 million to support education, learning, research, and skills development in the marine industry, with a special focus on reducing barriers for underrepresented groups, bringing a broad range of new talent into the industry and the trades, including more women and Indigenous people, and creating opportunities for youth through internships and apprenticeships.
Only what? 10 years behind schedule?
 

Some news of the day:​

HMCS Preserver will join HMCS Protecteur as the longest naval ships ever built in Canada​

October 27, 2023 – North Vancouver, BC – Today, Seaspan Shipyards (Seaspan) and its more than 3,900 employees were proud to host a ceremonial keel laying event for the Royal Canadian Navy’s (RCN) future HMCS Preserver.

The keel laying is a significant milestone in a ship’s construction, during which a coin is placed near the keel, where it will remain for the duration of the ship’s life. The coin is said to bring good luck to the builders and all those who sail on the vessel. For today’s occasion, a commemorative coin from the Royal Canadian Mint was selected, designed by Esquimalt Nation artist Darlene Gait. The coins were placed in the vessel today by Tyler Robertson, a third-generation pipefitter and 2023 Seaspan apprenticeship graduate supported by the Squamish Nation Training and Trades Centre, and Ordinary Cadet Curtis MacBain, a Sea Cadet from 354 RCSCC Invincible; their joint participation in this milestone event represents the next generation and future of both Seaspan Shipyards and the Royal Canadian Navy.

“Today, Seaspan Shipyards has taken another critical step towards providing the Royal Canadian Navy with the ships they need to go into harm’s way and ensure Canada’s security and sovereignty in an increasingly unstable geopolitical environment,” said John McCarthy, CEO, Seaspan Shipyards. “Through investments in technology, process improvements, and skills upgrading, and by rigorously applying lessons learned from earlier ships we have built, Seaspan is on course to deliver ships faster and for lower cost to Canada.”

The future HMCS Preserver is the second of two Joint Support Ships being built by Seaspan as part of the NSS. Through incorporating lessons learned on the design and construction of JSS1, the second Joint Support Ship is tracking ahead of schedule and efficiencies are seen throughout the build process – from advancements in design and supply chain streamlining, to pre-assembly outfitting in electrical cable installation.

The HMCS Preserver joins HMCS Protecteur as the longest naval ships built in Canada. HMCS Preserver is scheduled for delivery in 2027.

“Today’s keel laying ceremony marks the significant progress being made for the Royal Canadian Navy’s Protecteur-class,” said Rear-Admiral Steve Waddell, Deputy Commander of the Royal Canadian Navy. “Through Canada’s National Shipbuilding Strategy we continue to grow the naval fleet and bolster its capabilities. Bravo Zulu to those who have contributed to all of the work on this tremendous project.”

In addition to designing, building and delivering state-of-the-art ships, Seaspan is also delivering significant socio-economic benefits to Canada as a result of the NSS. Seaspan has helped to rebuild a marine industrial sector, creating thousands of jobs, leveraging a supply chain of more than 700 Canadian suppliers from coast-to-coast, and generating more than $5.7 billion in GDP contributions to Canada since 2011.

“Today marks an important milestone in the work Seaspan has been doing under the National Shipbuilding Strategy. This facility plays a vital role in Canada’s shipbuilding industry, in supporting the Royal Canadian Navy and Coast Guard and is an integral part of both North Vancouver’s maritime heritage and our present local economy,” said The Honourable Jonathan Wilkinson, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources, and Member of Parliament for North Vancouver. “The construction of two Joint Support Ships will create good jobs and help increase the endurance and capability of the Royal Canadian Navy. ”

HMCS Preserver is the fifth ship to be designed and built by Seaspan under the NSS. In 2020, Seaspan completed delivery of CCGS John Cabot, the third and final Offshore Fisheries Science Vessel built for the Canadian Coast Guard and marked the first full class of vessel to be delivered under the NSS. Construction is also underway on the Canadian Coast Guard’s Offshore Oceanographic Science Vessel, and progress is being made to prepare for the start of construction on Canada’s new heavy Polar Icebreaker, the first to be constructed in Canada in 60 years.

QUICK FACTS

  • With a length of 173.7 metres, HMCS Preserver will join HMCS Protecteur as the longest naval ships ever to be built in Canada.
  • HMCS Protecteur and HMCS Preserver will replace the former Protecteur-class Auxiliary Oiler Replenishment vessels. In addition to providing critical at-sea replenishment, these multi-purpose warships will also be capable of seamlessly integrating with any Canadian or allied naval task group, and will significantly extend the range and endurance of these groups through the provision of fuel, ammunition, aviation support, food, spare parts, exercise and gym facilities, and medical and dental care.
  • Seaspan is one of the most modern shipyards in North America, following its privately funded $185M shipyard modernization, development of a skilled workforce of 3,900 and state-of-the-art, purpose-built infrastructure to deliver the entire non-combat fleet.
  • In October 2021, Seaspan celebrated its 10th year as a strategic partner in the NSS: the milestone marked the rebirth of a sustainable, thriving shipbuilding industry of strategic importance to Canada that is delivering ships, economic growth and jobs.
    • Watch the Seaspan-NSS 10th year anniversary video.
  • Seaspan has invested more than $24 million to support education, learning, research, and skills development in the marine industry, with a special focus on reducing barriers for underrepresented groups, bringing a broad range of new talent into the industry and the trades, including more women and Indigenous people, and creating opportunities for youth through internships and apprenticeships.
Would have been nice if they had invited some the local Navy League Cadets to this.
 
Only what? 10 years behind schedule?
10 years behind which schedule. Federal government aspirational promises from project start date? Keel laying? Contract signing?

Because from the keel laying for Preserver to now they are quite a bit ahead of schedule. Delivery is late for Protecteur by about 2 years however from that initial build schedule. Covid did a number on that particular timeline. And also Seaspans admitted terrible way to lay cable on Protecteur.
 
10 years behind which schedule. Federal government aspirational promises from project start date? Keel laying? Contract signing?

Because from the keel laying for Preserver to now they are quite a bit ahead of schedule. Delivery is late for Protecteur by about 2 years however from that initial build schedule. Covid did a number on that particular timeline. And also Seaspans admitted terrible way to lay cable on Protecteur.
People here don't want to hear that Underway, Seaspan, Irving, NSS bad!
 
I admit have a Seaspan bias, although I can see firsthand some of their weaknesses. They went from a repair yard to a build yard fairly quickly and have turned out 3 vessels so far and 3 under construction and more in planning stage. I would be utterly shocked if they didn't eff up along the way.
 
Pardon my ignorance, but the last significant Warship building in Canada were the City class frigates and nothing until the NSSP. During this time project management, engineering expertise and skilled trades were lost as well as the necessary infrastructure were not modernized or laid idled. From the little that I do know, warships, besides submarines, are one of the most complex and engineering intensive builds in the military.
Isn't expected that mistakes will be made as this critical domestic ship building industry rebuilds? Wasn't this part of the risk management analysis? Aren't quality control and quality assurance programs working as they are able to pick up the errors? Aren't Seaspan and Iriving improving their construction and manufacturing methods as their experience grows?

Cheers
 
Pardon my ignorance, but the last significant Warship building in Canada were the City class frigates and nothing until the NSSP. During this time project management, engineering expertise and skilled trades were lost as well as the necessary infrastructure were not modernized or laid idled. From the little that I do know, warships, besides submarines, are one of the most complex and engineering intensive builds in the military.
Isn't expected that mistakes will be made as this critical domestic ship building industry rebuilds? Wasn't this part of the risk management analysis? Aren't quality control and quality assurance programs working as they are able to pick up the errors? Aren't Seaspan and Iriving improving their construction and manufacturing methods as their experience grows?

Cheers
Everything you said was correct. This is why AOPS were before CSC. Why the CCG ships were moved to before JSS. Really every company should be improving as they go, Seaspan and Iriving had a long way to come from.
 
Maybe we'll have to order a third one the HMCS Provider to keep Seaspan busy while they get the Polar Icebreaker and Multi purpose ships designs ready

According to this, the wait shouldn't be very long.

Before full-rate construction on the Polar Icebreaker begins, Seaspan has been developing a prototype block to pilot the new systems, processes, people, and tools that are required to work with the heavy structures necessary to manufacture a Polar Icebreaker. Some of this steel will be up to 60 millimetres thick, to enable the ship to safely navigate through the multi-year ice it will encounter in the Arctic.

In May 2023, Seaspan reported that the prototype block construction had begun. The lessons learned from building the block will be used to help improve the quality and efficiency of the process for designing and manufacturing the vessel when full production begins in late 2024.
 
We should offer Asterix's services should opportunities present itself until the new RFA ships and/or the new Protecteur are operational.
 
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