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They are designations of ranks, not ranks. Per the National Defence Act, 21(2), as reflected in regulations under the QR&O, volume 1, chapter 3, article 3.01 and its associated table.
Naval ranks aren't in the NDA. You'll find unified ranks in the Schedule at the very bottom of the NDA.How can a substantive rank have the word acting in it?
Also what if an Acting Sub-Lieutenat was acting as a Sub-Lieutenat? Or what if a Naval Cadet was acting a rank up, would they be an Acting Acting Sub-Lieutenat?
You boat people are weird.
They never updated the NDA, just wait for the government to change for the Navy to revert back.
Why waste time and effort in changing our rank structure? What doesn’t work with the current one?Naval ranks aren't in the NDA. You'll find unified ranks in the Schedule at the very bottom of the NDA.
IMHO, the RCAF should follow the Navy's example on that one and adopt the British air force ranks, but that's just me. One reason not to do it might be that it would be difficult to translate as, afaik, France never adopted distinctive air force ranks.
Because the former CRCN violated the law, the CAF has gone along with it, and we need to either regularize it or go back to obeying the law.Why waste time and effort in changing our rank structure? What doesn’t work with the current one?
It's ahistorical and doesn't match the tradition laid down by the RAF or the distinct identity of the RCAF from the CA.Why waste time and effort in changing our rank structure? What doesn’t work with the current one?
Sure, but in practical terms, what can’t we do because of our rank structure? Let’s be pragmatic.It's ahistorical and doesn't match the tradition laid down by the RAF or the distinct identity of the RCAF from the CA.
Do note I'm talking about the QR&O example which already provided for the development of distinct RCAF ranks, not the half-assed ways of the current Navy.
I doubt it'd be that resource intensive.Sure, but in practical terms, what can’t we do because of our rank structure? Let’s be pragmatic.
If you think changing an Act is not resource intensive, I have news for you.I doubt it'd be that resource intensive.
They did it for aviator and sailors without too much problem. (Except that they got the wrong policy level for the latter)
Alternatively, we could just drop saluting outside of ceremonies, and let everybody's rank be clearly visible...The RAF ranks would not easily transfer over to the RCAF; their air and ground trades don’t even use the same ranks in the NCM world.
I’d change the RCAF op dress ranks thread colour to pearl grey like our DEUs are and call it a day. The CAG and blue thread combo doesn’t work so well on the shoulder/flying clothing. I’ve said a few times, do the pearl grey thread for officers only so people know if they going to salute or not…
Who said anything about changing an act? Refer to @dapaterson 's commentIf you think changing an Act is not resource intensive, I have news for you.
Getting GiC approval is as ressource intensive. We’re talking months to years of multiple staff work (that would be better used working on other, more pressing issues).Who said anything about changing an act? Refer to @dapaterson 's comment
I'm not saying it should be rushed either.Getting GiC approval is as ressource intensive. We’re talking months to years of multiple staff work (that would be better used working on other, more pressing issues).
Again. What isn’t working now that would justify using 1000s of hours of people’s time?I'm not saying it should be rushed either.
But at least throwing it on the plate would get it done some day! Instead of never.
Again. What isn’t working now that would justify using 1000s of hours of people’s time?
It would have been easier if you (RCAF) had not adopted those miniature rank insignia that you place on the leather jacket. It was impossible to see who you were talking to, unless you were six inches away.The RAF ranks would not easily transfer over to the RCAF; their air and ground trades don’t even use the same ranks in the NCM world.
I’d change the RCAF op dress ranks thread colour to pearl grey like our DEUs are and call it a day. The CAG and blue thread combo doesn’t work so well on the shoulder/flying clothing. I’ve said a few times, do the pearl grey thread for officers only so people know if they going to salute or not…