Will you vote NDP in the next election?

[Sonnyjim]

Just wanted to bring attention to the latest statement by the NDP's fearless leader Jack Layton. He believes that the war against the Taliban is un-winable and he sticks by his view of pulling us out asap no iffs/ands/or butts. Does his argument about history repeating itself have any bearing with the technology and experience that our troops bring in our modern military?  Take a read and let me know what you think.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/afghan_cda_layton

 

[Mike Baker]

Well, if the election is in the fall, after my birthday, no, I won't. Yes, there are some things that I have to agree with the NDP on, but with their disrespect to our job in Afghanistan, I will never vote for them. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Lumber]

Without reading the article: No.

 

[Shamrock]

It's a shame Mr. Layton can't take his own advice.

"No one. And historical experience shows that it's been impossible - whether it be Alexander the Great, the British in the 19th century, or the Russians in the 20th century.

"We're saying let's recognize these historical realities."

*Cough*last time we had federal NDP governance was?*cough*

 

[SweetNavyJustice]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..........  oh, were you serious? ........  No, probably not.

 

[a_majoor]

Oh, Jack:

Kandahar is the local rendition of Alexander, who conquered the place around 326 BC. The British essentially dictated Afghan foreign policy from the mid 1800's to their withdrawal in 1923 (and they withdrew their influence on Afghanistan because they were broke due to WWI).

The Russians tried to conquer Afghanistan and failed, but they did it in a stupid way. Had the former USSR had the resources to carry on (and remember they were trying to conquer Afghanistan as their economy was collapsing [the wonders of a socialistic planned economy, but we can talk about that on a separate thread, eh, Jack?]). If they had done this in the 1960's, they probably could have imposed a Roman peace.

So to correct your quote:

And historical experience shows that it's been impossible - whether it be Alexander the Great, the British in the 19th century, or ISAF in this new millenium

 

[CougarKing]

Shouldn't this thread be in the "Canadian Politics" thread instead of in the "International Situation and World News" thread?  Foreign Policy is indeed discussed here, but come on, this is Jack Layton we're talking about...  :  ;D

 

[vonGarvin]

The Russians tried to conquer Afghanistan and failed, but they did it in a stupid way. Had the former USSR had the resources to carry on (and remember they were trying to conquer Afghanistan as their economy was collapsing [the wonders of a socialistic planned economy, but we can talk about that on a separate thread, eh, Jack?]). If they had done this in the 1960's, they probably could have imposed a Roman peace.

Outstanding point.  I am sick of hearing how "Afghanistan repelled the Soviets", when in fact, they withdrew because they couldn't afford it.  They were losing the Cold War - fast - and a draw down in Afghanistan was the only option due to increased military spending by the United States. 

Consider how the Soviets dealt with East Germany, Hungary and Czechoslovakia when the US was "otherwise occupied".

 

[Rodahn]

In a word, No, Nyet, Non, Nichts. Either for Mr (cough) Layton nor any of his sycophants......

 

[stealthylizard]

I voted for them in my first federal election.  Fresh out of high school and didn't know any better.  Glad they didn't win.  Nope, I will never vote NDP again, especially seeing as how I can't see myself voting Grit either, at least not in the near future.

 

[Old Ranger]

Jack Bin Ladden with the moral confusion of what being not only Canadian but Human...........

Me thinks NOT!

 

[socialhandgrenade]

If my balls where on fire,and voting NDP was water .I would rather pound out the flames.

 

[Flip]

Vote for the NDP?

Not on your or any one else's sweet nellie!

I had an NDP candidate on my front porch once.
I told him to get the hell off.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

At least they have a clearly established and consistent view on AStan (repellant as it may be) that is immune to the latest opinion poll.

 

[CrazyCanuck]

I will never vote for anyone who as far as I am concerned openly supports the position of our enemies through their policies.

 

[RangerRay]

After what the Socialist Horde did to my province during the 1990's?  Nein danke!

 

[IanAlexander]

Vote for the NDP?

Not on your or any one else's sweet nellie!

I had an NDP candidate on my front porch once.
I told him to get the hell off.

I had an NDP candidate at my door once too. I asked lots of questions and acted really interested in what he had to say. After a while he was trying to extract himself without being rude but I kept it up. Finally, I told him that I would never vote NDP and that I hoped I wasted enough of his time that we wouldn't have the time to corrupt someone else who had a weaker will.

It was a waste of my time too, but I considered it a public service.

 

[Roy Harding]

Shouldn't this thread be in the "Canadian Politics" thread instead of in the "International Situation and World News" thread?  Foreign Policy is indeed discussed here, but come on, this is Jack Layton we're talking about...  :  ;D

Good point.

Done.


Roy Harding
Milnet.ca Staff

 

[George Wallace]

It was a waste of my time too, but I considered it a public service.

;D

Well done, you!

 

[Mike Baker]

I had an NDP candidate at my door once too. I asked lots of questions and acted really interested in what he had to say. After a while he was trying to extract himself without being rude but I kept it up. Finally, I told him that I would never vote NDP and that I hoped I wasted enough of his time that we wouldn't have the time to corrupt someone else who had a weaker will.

It was a waste of my time too, but I considered it a public service.

Oh that's just grand ;D