Will the Unites States try to Dominate the World?!?!

[Military Brat]

Canada being annexed?  ???

The US has already invaded Canada culturally, they influence every part of our society in some way.

The US isn't going to invade Canada by force anytime soon, they get everything they want from the current Liberal government anyways. Just look at the softwood lumber issue, Canada can really do nothing but go to international bodies governing trade and launch a legal case. It would be a similar situation, and the end result would be the Liberals making sure not the piss off our neighbors to the South, and they would sell out on Canadians.

 

[Goober]

If Bush was just looking for Oil, why didn't he let his friends drill in Alaska? ....

Funny you mention that, they are applying to expand drilling to cover about 96% of 2 million square miles of protected eco system.

 

[Goober]

Sorry, my numbers were wrong, its 4.6 million acres, not 2 million square miles.

http://www.enn.com/news/2004-06-11/s_24807.asp

 

[Infanteer]

Although this information relaxes me more in regards to the idea of them having a fully fueled war machine well the rest of us rot away, I still don't trust the US. I suppose I'll have to wait and see what they're like if I ever get to train with them. It is my opinion that the US isn't as innocent as you all seem to think. I refuse to let a sheet be pulled over my eyes in regards to the US. A saying, never let your guard down. I'll keep following although one of my theories have been busted completely. I'll have to do some research and thinking!

At least this line of thinking has been blasted enough on this thread to not be taken seriously anymore.

Hey Recruit, put your theories away and put the radio on recieve.  I'll ask my American sister when they plan on invading us and give you an advance warning, ok....

 

[Smoothbore]

Canada being annexed?  ???

The US has already invaded Canada culturally, they influence every part of our society in some way.

What culture?

 

[Korus]

What in heavens name ARE they TEACHING these kids in university these days??!!

Not THAT... well, at least not in Engineering...

 

[Smoothbore]

He's probably in somekind of arts program like finger painting...

 

[Jarnhamar]

All I need to say is,
YOU KNOW YOUR A FAG WHEN!

"Cheeky-Monkey" if you can't even attempt to act like an adult piss off and get off this site.

Smoothbore your not too far ahead in the intelligent post department either.

 

[Smoothbore]

I'm aware of that, thank you. Thats why I joined the military.

 

[JBP]

I won't comment on Smoothbore, in anycase, this thread is basically dead. I wanted to see what kind of response I'd attain and what people thought of it. I've gotten my response from people and information.

Thanks for those who involved themselves respectfully and honestly. I do accept constructive critisizem well. 

It's very different than most civilians or people from my area anyway.

Again, thanks for the input folks! I have no hard feelings or ill will toward anyone!

Joe
Deep hearted Canadian
I love 

 

[Pieman]

meh! Guys. don't even bother coming down on this guy.

It is clearly like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[Andyd513]

I think the underlying, all defeating question here is.. do you TRULY think Americans are much different then Canadians? Have you, or do you KNOW any Americans?

Seriously, if you think they're "suspicious" or whatever drive however long it takes you to get to the US on a weekend, go do whatever you like to do to meet people and come back and tell me the people you meet are any less kind then your Canadian friends. Several Americans make up some of my best friends.. my best friend who lives here has a girlfriend in Michigan. Shall I ask them when they plan to take over the rest of the worlds oil reserves and dominate us?

 

[jrhume]

We don't have a plan to take over the Earth.  Though we could use some more oil reserves.  And fresh water -- yeah, we need fresh water, too.  Preferably big lakes with decent trout fishing.  Good beer, too.  It would have to be a place with good beer. 

Okay, so that sort of describes Canada -- or parts of it.  But, honest, we don't have any invasion plans.  Really.

As for submission and/or domination, well, that's sort of a private affair, isn't it?

 

[JBP]

Yes I have known Americans.

It's not the civilians and everday people who are the problem, they are the same as is in almost every aspect of life. It's the administration of the government and the different military agencies and security agencies that are the problem. CIA, FBI, NSA, Republican Government in power at this time...

I had a married-in grandmother who lived in Buffalo, NY state. She was one of the nicest people I've ever known and she wasn't even a blood relative! I had two friends who lived in Brooklyn, NY and one of them was witness to the 09/11 attacks. They came and visited shortly after that all happened. Here is one MAJOR difference in the mindset of the people North of the border compare to the South.

When my friends first arrived, they said they just could NOT believe how expensive the gas prices were. They are expensive as we all know that. I commented that they had to keep in mind they were pumped Litres not Gallons. She understood, made the conversion and still realized she paid ALOT less in the US for gas. So she said, and I quote, "Man you Canadians gotta get some F-16's over to some sandbox shithole and bomb some of those rag-head motherfuckers if they keep jackin' up your gas like that!"... Mind you, again, this was shortly after 9/11 which could have an obvious influence over her reactions. In anycase, I wouldn't doubt there are Canadians who wouldn't mind blowing some country to pieces to lower the gas prices. But for the most part, I do not believe most Canadians would KILL people over gas.

To make a long story shorter, it's not the civilians for the most part. It's the high-ranking military+administration+corporations. All the posts I've made in this thread were from my own personal thought and opinions and were expressed in such fashion. If you take offence to it, that's your choice or if you don't agree, that's your choice. Simple. That's why I created the thread, to see what people thought. I enjoy good constructive conversation about almost any topic. I will never belittle someone else for thier own opinion. We live in a free society with free speech.

So in short, yes, I do believe that the US will be the catalyst to the true World War 3. That's my opinion and since it's clearly stated in several posts and I've attained much feedback from many people here, I won't post to this thread again as it won't be of much use. Anyone want to slander me or talk more, send me a personal message or email me at JBP@Cogeco.ca

Joe
PS> I'm not afraid to stand up for what I believe in 

:threat:

 

[1feral1]

I think radical extreme Islam is already the catalyst and when this war intensifies, and we are all closer to the beginning than the end of this war.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but Joe, take a second and think about if this happened in Canada, then maybe you would think different if thousands of innocent Canadians were murdered in such a cowardly fashion as our American friends were on 11 Sep 01.

Here in Australia we already know the loss with teh Kuta Beach bombings of 2002. We know what has to be done.

It wouldnt be over oil would it. It would be to ensure that this bent side of a religion and all who follow it are indeed stopped in their tracks to prevent any further action against your country.

Lets just get it overwith now, so our kids wont have to do what we are. All's I want is a secure future for our culture and our way of life, and there are people out there (yes right in your own country now) who want things different, and value DEATH as much as you and I cherish our own lives,a nd the lives of people we love.

Regards,

Wes

 

[1feral1]

Nearly forgot, our petrol prices both here in Australia and Canada have always been higher than the USA, and this is because of the taxing structure is different.

Regards,

Wes

 

[ags281]

Wanna see expensive gas? Go to Europe. There's a reason scooters are popular there...

 

[karpovage]

Joe, I'll bite. You've got some good bait. If Britain didn't have ambitions to dominate the world Canada and the U.S. would never have come about. During the colonization age of history many countries sought expansion for natural resources. Some did it for perceived riches, some for economic and trade purposes, ie pure profit taking. In fact a European fashion demand for fur drove alot of the colonization of Canada and the U.S. in our early inception. So were the Brits evil people for being a militaristic society by defending the fur trade? keep in mind also that coal was a fossil fuel that was considered the blood that drove economies. So, do not consider oil evil in of itself. Oil is the blood that fuels our modern world. Oil IS a National Security Interest of the U.S. as is it of Canada. This is not based on a Republican or Democratic agenda, nor U.S. actions of the last decade. This is based on capitalism and industry and reality. In fact former President Jimmy Carter, a pacifist Democratic declared oil a National Security interest and risked sending U.S. Naval Warships to the Persian Gulf to escort oil tankers from the threat of Iranian interference. So, yes oil does drive America but Joe, oil drives every modern civilized country. And those third world countries that are trying to modernize rely on oil too.

Persian Gulf War I was not a U.S. endeavor. It was a United Nations war. Yes, it was to liberate an invaded country but it too was about the FREE capitalistic trade of a natural resource - oil. I don't have a problem going to war for oil. It drives our society. If the U.S. wanted to dominate the middle east oil supply then why did we pull out of Iraq then? Why didn't we confiscate the Iraq oil reserves then? Instead we, under the UN umbrella set up a humanitarian Oil for Foodd program to help the citizens of Iraq. ANd what has become of this program under the UN? An utterfailure with $10 billion dollars embezzelled!

Persian Gulf War II (The Battle of Iraq) is still considered a UN sanctioned military intervention. There was a cease-fire from 1991. The cease-fire was broken on over700 occasions (ie, no-fly zone). Plus UN inspectors were booted in 1998. In 2002 a unanimous decision 15-0 by the Security Council threatened "serious consequences" of a material breach. There was a breach and thus invasion occurred. The U.S. and Great Britain took the leadership role to drive this battle, thus questioning the UN resolve to add bite to its words. Could you imagine if the League of Nations did the same while Hitler was grabbing land in the late '30s? But you know what, oil wasn't a problem for the U.S. then. Oil prices were low. The U.S. didn't need to attack for oil purposes. Security of our citizens was a greater concern. We really couldn't afford another 9-11 from occurring. An Iraq was ripe for promoting this. Iraq oil is important to U.S. - don't get me wrong. But the new government of Iraq needs it as a source of revenue. We need Iraq to succeed because a democratic Arab state in the middle east is much more important than lower gas prices.

In closing why has the U.S. embarked on a major research initiative to replace oil with hydrogen-powered technologies, corn-fuel, battery-power among other forms of energy, if we are poised on world domination to supply our oil demand?

 

[Military Brat]

(yes right in your own country now) who want things different, and value DEATH as much as you and I cherish our own lives,a nd the lives of people we love.

Sounds good to me, I have no problem killing every last one of these religious extremists who value death and giving them their wish so the civilized world can live in peace, freedom and relative security.

 

[Pte.Nomercy]

I have to disagree, the US and UN went to war to help out and liberate Kuwait? I wish I could believe that, there was a secondary agenda. Not to mention that the UN is 90% supported by America.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when the US went to Somalia under "Operation Restore Hope," weren't they going with the UN to lend a helping hand? There was a alternate agenda there too.

Then again, that's just my thoughts and opinion. If anyone disagrees or has questions, then please private message me, so that this forum doesn't turn into a 50 page argument.

I just think that when a super power country, regardless who it is, that behaves so aggressively, goes to help someone; it is not genuine, there is a real reason as to why they went to â Å“help.â ?