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U.S. Politics 2017 (split fm US Election: 2016)

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QV said:
It must be difficult for you, MM,

Why bring personalities into the discussion? I don't believe I know you.

As for what is, and what is not, difficult for me you have no idea. This "discussion" is just internet entertainment for me. Not so long ago it was in Radio Chatter.

Reading it does however make me thankful to be a Canadian.  :)
 

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QV said:
It must be difficult for you, MM, with the mounting problems for the corrupt Clinton’s and their DNC minions.  As brash and uncouth President Trump may be there seems to be zero corruption and crime.  I don’t know about you, but I would take an uncouth leader that is not crooked over a polished crook.

Just some thoughts for balance.

The Uranium One scandal is manufactured drama

The key event that the myth is based on is Russia’s nuclear power agency purchasing a controlling stake in the Toronto-based energy company in 2010. The company had mines and land in a number of US states with huge uranium production capacity — a move the US State Department signed off on. But PolitiFact did a thorough fact-check of the claim last year when Trump tried to make it into a scandal on the campaign trail, and found the following faults with it:

1. The mines, mills, and land the company holds in the US account for 20 percent of the US’s uranium production capacity, not actual produced uranium.

2. The State Department was one of nine federal agencies and a number of additional independent federal and state regulators that signed off on the deal.

3. President Barack Obama, not Clinton, was the only person who could’ve vetoed the deal.

4. Since Russia doesn’t have the legal right to export uranium from the US, its main goal was likely to gain access to the company’s uranium assets in Kazakhstan.

5. Crucially, the main national security concern was not about nuclear weapons proliferation, as Trump has suggested, but actually ensuring the US doesn’t have to depend too much on uranium sources from abroad, as the US only makes about 20 percent of the uranium it needs. An advantage in making nuclear weapons wasn’t the main issue because, as PolitiFact notes, “the United States and Russia had for years cooperated on that front, with Russia sending enriched fuel from decommissioned warheads to be used in American nuclear power plants in return for raw uranium.”

The Republican focus on Clinton and Uranium One are really in service of a broader political goal: to distract from and push back against the growing investigations into the Trump administration’s possible collusion with Moscow.

That investigation has grown explosive in recent weeks as Mueller has announced indictments against former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and campaign aide Rick Gates and unsealed a guilty plea from campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, who told the FBI that he’d met with a Russian-linked professor who said Russia had “dirt” on Clinton, including thousands of her stolen emails.

Republicans are terrified that the Mueller probe could deal a huge blow to their party’s reputation and further dampen their declining prospects in the 2018 midterm elections. At this point, they’re desperate for ideas to distract people from Trump’s scandals — including reviving a false and debunked claim about the uranium deal.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/31/16581234/sessions-special-counsel-clinton-uranium-one-russia

:cheers:
 
Not manufactured drama, but a corruption rather than national security story.

"The Republican focus on Clinton and Uranium One are really in service of a broader political goal: to distract from and push back against the growing investigations into the Trump administration’s possible collusion with Moscow."

Not really needed.  The "collusion with Moscow" hunt so far has yielded nothing but fraud/process crimes.

 
From Russia with love:

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/924111999306313729/pu/vid/1280x720/rzsxXzUZlwXav1RJ.mp4
 
ABC News @ABC
JUST IN: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians." abcn.ws/2AhU3Iq

If true, I don't think Trump can escape this one.
 
Wrong. He will testify about"a senior member". Trump was not named.
 
That's who I personally think it is. A good target has he was a "mover" that greatly helped Trump's election including bringing in a brilliant IT guy he worked with. It would really hurt Trump if his son-in-law went to jail for a year.

Mueller's team  http://www.businessinsider.com/lawyers-robert-mueller-hired-for-the-trump-russia-investigation-2017-6/#michael-dreeben-1  sure has a lot of Dems supporters on it.

Don't forget Trump and his family were neophytes re politics and the Washington swamp.

 
ABC News announced Saturday that reporter Brian Ross would be suspended for four weeks without pay over a botched "exclusive" about former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

More on this: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/02/abc-news-suspends-brian-ross-over-serious-error-in-trumpflynn-report.html

Modify: Four weeks without pay.
 
Well, the first part of this video came true (Manafort and Flynn).  How much more will go down?!?
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/two-senior-fbi-officials-on-clinton-trump-probes-exchanged-politically-charged-texts-disparaging-trump/2017/12/02/9846421c-d707-11e7-a986-d0a9770d9a3e_story.html?utm_term=.f8725c410c13

Top FBI official assigned to Mueller’s Russia probe said to have been removed after sending anti-Trump texts
- 2 Dec 17

Extract:
The former top FBI official assigned to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election was taken off that job this summer after his bosses discovered he and another member of Mueller’s team had exchanged politically charged texts disparaging President Trump and supporting Hillary Clinton, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.

Peter Strzok, as deputy head of counterintelligence at the FBI, was a key player in the investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server to do government work as secretary of state, as well as the probe into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia in the 2016 election.

During the Clinton investigation, Strzok was involved in a romantic relationship with FBI lawyer Lisa Page, who worked for Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

The extramarital affair was problematic, these people said, but of greater concern among senior law enforcement officials were text messages the two exchanged during the Clinton investigation and campaign season in which they expressed anti-Trump sentiments and other comments that appeared to favor Clinton.


Then, today:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/03/ex-mueller-team-members-role-in-clinton-probe-under-review.html      (Video at link)

Mueller aide fired for anti-Trump texts now facing review for role in Clinton email probe - James Rosen, Jake Gibson - Fox News -3 Dec 17

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EXCLUSIVE –  Two senior Justice Department officials have confirmed to Fox News that the department's Office of Inspector General is reviewing the role played in the Hillary Clinton email investigation by Peter Strzok, a former deputy director for counterintelligence at the FBI who was removed from the staff of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III earlier this year, after Mueller learned that Strzok had exchanged anti-Trump texts with a colleague.

A source close to the matter said the OIG probe, which will examine Strzok's roles in a number of other politically sensitive cases, should be completed by "very early next year."

The task will be exceedingly complex, given Strzok's consequential portfolio. He participated in the FBI's fateful interview with Hillary Clinton on July 2, 2016 – just days before then-FBI Director James Comey announced he was declining to recommend prosecution of Mrs. Clinton in connection with her use, as secretary of state, of a private email server.

As deputy FBI director for counterintelligence, Strzok also enjoyed liaison with various agencies in the intelligence community, including the CIA, then led by Director John Brennan.

Key figure

House investigators told Fox News they have long regarded Strzok as a key figure in the chain of events when the bureau, in 2016, received the infamous anti-Trump "dossier" and launched a counterintelligence investigation into Russian meddling in the election that ultimately came to encompass FISA surveillance of a Trump campaign associate.
 
 
What a mess. No matter the outcome of this investigation, at least half the US population will decide not to believe the results.
 
SeaKingTacco said:
What a mess. No matter the outcome of this investigation, at least half the US population will decide not to believe the results.

Why do I sense that the real villain of this piece is J. Edgar Hoover?
 
SeaKingTacco said:
No matter the outcome of this investigation, at least half the US population will decide not to believe the results.
Of course, that would likely be the case regardless of what happens between point A and point B.
 
The worth of the entire series of investigations will have to wait for any court actions.  Where gangs of high priced lawyers and expert witnesses will fight it out. As well, that pesky thing called the constitution gets in the way. But what is for certain, rightly or wrongly, they are harming Trump's brand.
 
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