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Turmoil in Libya (2011) and post-Gaddafi blowback

FoverF said:
Well, here's my take on this subject:

You have to define your goals clearly and realistically. For example, nation building in Afghanistan is a credible mission. But many of the Canadian public consider that to mean we are aiming for a box-standard western liberal democracy. Which is wholly unrealistic.

Instead, I look at Afghanistan's neighbors, such as Iran and Pakistan. If we could help Afghanistan achieve a stable authoritarian theocracy like Iran, or the kind of long-standing intermittent democracy seen in Pakistan, then that would be fantastic. It would be leaps and bounds better than any other government seen in Afghanistan in decades. We're not going to turn Afghanistan, or Libya, into a liberal utopia, some kind of Islamic version of Holland. But if we can help implement a substantial upgrade over a military tyrant, or the Taliban, which lasts for more than a few years, then we have helped build a nation.

If we can help Afghanistan catch up to its' neighbors, such as Iran, or help Libya catch up to nations like Algeria or Egypt, then we have done a tremendous good. It will of course be called an atrocity by those who insist that their own agenda will lead to a global utopia. But in my humble opinion I would call that successful nation building.

My opinion is that nation building simply does not work. People don't like to be told that what they have been doing since they were born is the wrong way of doing things. Think of it, people are about to get mad at me because they believe nation building is the way to go. Because as a western civilization we have been doing it for a very long time now with little success we leave countries crumbling into depths they can't get out of and just harm the surrounding areas.

As much as I hate Qaddafi, lets worry about our fiscal responsibility at home before we start blowing money that doesn't even exist.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/05/chinese-arms-companies-weapons-gaddafi-regime

Chinese arms companies 'offered to sell weapons to Gaddafi regime'

Documents found in Libyan capital show firms breached UN embargo by offering weaponry, but Beijing says no deliveries were made

Tania Branigan in Beijing and agencies
guardian.co.uk, Monday 5 September 2011 11.58 BST
In the final weeks of Muammar Gaddafi's regime, Chinese arms companies offered to sell around $200m (£124m) worth of weaponry to Muammar Gaddafi's government in breach of a UN arms embargo, according to documents found in Tripoli.

The Chinese foreign ministry has confirmed that Libyan officials travelled to Beijing to buy arms in July, although it said no contracts were signed and no weapons delivered.

A spokeswoman said the Chinese government had not known of the state-owned firms' meetings.

According to the documents, obtained by Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper, the Chinese firms offered to sell rocket launchers, anti-tank missiles and other weapons.

The paper named the firms as the China North Industries Corporation (Norinco), China Precision Machinery Import-Export Company and China Xinxing Import and Export Company.

The companies either could not be contacted or said no one was available to comment.

It said the firms had suggested deals could be made via third countries such as Algeria or South Africa, both of which had said they supported the arms embargo.

Algeria's foreign minister, Mourad Medelci, said last week that the country had "resolutely applied" the terms of UN resolutions.

Omar Hariri, the chief of the rebels' military committee, told the newspaper he was "almost certain" that the guns arrived and were used against them, saying it explained how brand-new weaponry had reached the battlefield.

"We have hard evidence of deals going on between China and Gaddafi, and we have all the documents to prove it," a rebel military spokesman, Abdulrahman Busin, told the New York Times. He added that there was evidence of "at least ten" other governments or companies supplying arms to Gaddafi illegally.

The Globe and Mail reporter Graeme Smith said he found the documents, printed on the stationery of a government procurement department, in rubbish in a neighbourhood where many officials had lived.


"After the passing of resolution 1970 by the security council, we notified relevant government departments to strictly implement it," China's foreign ministry spokeswoman, Jiang Yu, told a daily news conference in Beijing.

"We have clarified with the relevant agencies that, in July, the Gaddafi government sent personnel to China without the knowledge of the Chinese government and who engaged in contact with a handful of people from the companies concerned.

"The Chinese companies did not sign arms trade contacts, and nor did they export military items to Libya.

"I believe that the agencies in charge of the arms trade will certainly treat this seriously."

In 2003, the US imposed sanctions on one of the firms involved, Norinco, alleging that it had sold missile-related parts to Iran. The firm said the accusations were "groundless and unjustified".

The China Xinxing Import and Export Company was set up in 1984 under the People's Liberation Army and has struck deals with more than 100 countries, according to its website.

The news comes at an extremely delicate time for Beijing, which has sought to improve relations with the Libyan rebels. Last month, an official with a rebel oil firm suggested they might freeze out countries that had not supported them.

China – which, as a permanent member of the UN security council, has veto power – surprised many by backing the arms ban in February and abstaining on the vote on Nato air strikes.

But it later condemned the bombing and has not formally recognised the National Transitional Council (NTC) as the legitimate authority in Libya, although it has held talks with rebels and said it values the NTC's "important role".

China is the third-largest importer of Libyan crude oil, and a foreign ministry spokesman, Ma Zhaoxu, said last week that it was "ready to maintain close contact" with the NTC.

But at the weekend, Mustafa Abdul Jalil, the head of the NTC, complained that China had obstructed the release of some of Libya's frozen assets.

China had agreed $15bn of Libyan assets held overseas should be unfrozen, but a rebel spokesman said it had opposed handing control of more to the interim ruling council.
 
Libya being where it is, is in the Chinese sphere of influence and the West backing the NTC has as much to do with keeping China out as it does with getting rid of Gaddafi. 
 
How long will it be before this new government starts acting like the old one?
 
Jim Seggie said:
How long will it be before this new government starts acting like the old one?

Just rinse and repeat Jim that seems to be Africa in a nutshell
 
RAF Tornados conduct strikes on Gaddafi troops at Sirte...
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British aircraft yesterday mounted a long-range mission against a military facility in the Libyan city of Sebha and conducted strikes on pro-Gaddafi troops at Sirte.

A formation of Royal Air Force Tornado GR4s took off from RAF Marham in Norfolk on Sunday, 4 September 2011, and, flying south to the Mediterranean, rendezvoused with allied aircraft to lead a long-range strike mission.

read more-->> http://www.xairforces.net/newsd.asp?newsid=506&newst=12
 
This is but one of several such missions conducted by Tornados from RAF Marham, the first one having been on march 17th.
 
INTERPOL Red card Notices issued for Muammar et fil + former int boss (posters attached).....
INTERPOL has issued Red Notices for Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi, his son Saif Al-Islam Gaddafi and former director of military intelligence Abdullah Al-Senussi after the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC), Luis Moreno-Ocampo, requested the world police body to issue internationally wanted persons notices against the Libyan nationals for alleged crimes against humanity, including murder and persecution.

The publication of INTERPOL Red Notices for the three men is part of INTERPOL’s collaboration with the Office of the Prosecutor of the ICC to assist cooperating member countries in their efforts to enforce the arrest warrants issued by the ICC.

The Red Notices have been circulated to all of INTERPOL’s 188 member countries and include essential identifying and judicial information.

In addition to the publication of the Red Notices, INTERPOL is offering the full support of its Command and Coordination Centre and asking its member countries to take all measures consistent with their national laws to help the ICC locate and apprehend Gaddafi.

"Prosecutor Moreno-Ocampo’s request for INTERPOL Red Notices will significantly restrict the ability of all three men to cross international borders and is a powerful tool to help in their location and arrest,” said INTERPOL Secretary General Ronald K. Noble.

"As far as INTERPOL's General Secretariat headquarters is concerned, Muammar Gaddafi is a fugitive whose country of nationality and the International Criminal Court want arrested and held accountable for the serious criminal charges that have been brought against him.

"INTERPOL will cooperate with and assist the ICC and Libyan authorities represented by the Interim Transitional National Council of Libya to apprehend Muammar Gaddafi," added Secretary General Noble ....
Interpol news release, 9 Sept 11

Tick, tick, tick.....
 
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/08/22/this_week_at_war_the_libya_model


Interesting article since it refers to afghanistan and how this method worked well against the taliban. 
Do people here think this method should be used more often?
 
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"Has The Libyan Insurgency Begun?
By Spencer Ackerman  September 13, 2011  |  8:33 am  |  Categories: Rogue States
The world has declared victory over Moammar Gadhafi. Only no one told Gadhafi he was defeated. Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.

Fighters loyal to Gadhafi killed 17 guards at an oil refinery near Ras Lunuf on Monday. They drove to the refinery in a convoy of more than a dozen vehicles. Witnesses reported that the attackers used hand grenades to kill the guards.

And the attack occurred less than two hours after Libya’s post-Gadhafi oil minister announced limited oil production had resumed. The refinery itself was undamaged, though it’s unclear if that’s by design or incompetence. Still, the message sent seems clear: Gadhafi loyalists will target the revolutionary government’s ability to exploit the sources of Libyan wealth, weakening its ability to stabilize the country. Then, presumably, comes the restoration.

That last part may be unrealistic, given how deeply Gadhafi is hated in Libya.
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Link here http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/has-the-libyan-insurgency-begun/#more-56934

"Sound like Iraq yet? One difference, at least, is that neither NATO nor the revolutionary government appears to want foreign troops to help stabilize Libya. But if an insurgency develops, will the U.S. Congress — which demanded a No-Fly Zone before balking when President Obama actually enforced one — demand further U.S. involvement to secure a “victory” over Gadhafi? If this decade of war has two lessons, it’s that insurgencies escalate quickly — and so does cheap political rhetoric demanding a forceful U.S. response."

 
1) From CBC Twitter post:
Parliament to vote on extension of Libyan mission: PM . Harper govt. wants Canada to extend its mission.

2)  From CP24:
Prime Minister Stephen Harper says his government will ask Parliament to extend the country's military mission in Libya for three more months.

Harper confirmed that plan after telling the United Nations that Canada will stay the course in rebuilding a post-Gadhafi Libya.

Harper says the fact that ousted dictator Moammar Gadhafi is still at large means the mission isn't finished.

"We will participate in the mission until armed threats from Gadhafi forces are eliminated from the country," Harper told reporters.

"We will ask Parliament to extend the mission by three months, but I'm going to be frank with you in saying I'm pretty optimistic we'll achieve our objectives well before that timeline." ....

3)  From Postmedia News:
Prime Minister Stephen Harper declared Tuesday that Canada will stand by war-torn Libya as it makes the transition toward stability.

Harper was speaking at a meeting of world leaders — members of the "Friends of Libya" group — who were gathered on the sidelines of the United Nations.

"Canada has been at the forefront of international efforts to protect civilians in Libya against the oppressive Gadhafi regime and provide them with humanitarian assistance," said Harper.

"Canada will continue to support the people of Libya, standing ready to promote effective governance and institutions, a secure environment founded on the rule of law, economic development and prosperity, and respect for human rights." ....

- edited to add CP 24 material -
 
Motion in House of Commons yesterday:
That, in standing in solidarity with those seeking freedom in Libya, the House adopted government motions on March 21 and June 14, 2011 authorizing all necessary measures, including the use of the Canadian armed forces and military assets in accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973; that given the current military situation and the success of National Transitional Council (NTC) and anti-Gaddafi forces to date, the House supports an extension of up to three months of the involvement of the Canadian armed forces operating with NATO in accordance with the legal mandate from the UNSC Resolution 1973; that the House continues to support Canada's engagement in all spheres in the rebuilding of a new Libya, including human rights, democratic development and the rule of law; that the House deplores the violence committed by the previous regime against the Libyan people, including the alleged use of rape as a weapon of war; that the House of Commons Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development and the Standing Committee on National Defence shall remain seized of Canada's activities under UNSC Resolution 1973 and in the rebuilding of the new Libya; and that the House continues to offer its wholehearted and unconditional support to the brave men and women of the Canadian armed forces, who stand on guard for all of us, and continue to protect Libyan civilians from the risks still posed by the Gaddafi regime.

... and calling for the vote Monday:
That, notwithstanding any Standing Order or usual practices of the House, on Monday, September 26, 2011 the House shall consider the motion tabled earlier today by the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons relating to Canada's engagement in all spheres in the rebuilding of a new Libya and at 15 minutes before the expiry of time provided for government orders on that day, any proceedings before the House shall be interrupted, if required for the purpose of this order, and in turn every question necessary for the disposal of the motion shall be put forthwith and successively without further debate or amendment.
 
Canada was there at the start of the NATO-led mission in Libya and intends to be there when it ends, Defence Minister Peter MacKay said Monday as the House of Commons deliberated an extension to Canada's participation in the mission.

With a Conservative majority, the debate was largely symbolic. The motion was passed easily by a vote of 189 to 98, with Liberals supporting the extension.

The New Democrats opposed the measure, saying Canada should remain in Libya but with a different mandate.

Canada's current contribution to the military effort in Libya was set to expire Tuesday and the Conservatives were seeking approval for a three-month extension in line with NATO's decision earlier this month that the mandate they received to protect Libyan civilians remains in place.

"Yes, there are significant hurdles to overcome but success is not an option — it's an imperative," MacKay told the Commons.

NDP defence critic Jack Harris questioned whether those hurdles still need the attention of international troops.

NATO is now in the end-game of a civil war, he said.

"Although it may be questioned as to what role can NATO play now in terms of the end game, when we're looking at an eroding defensive position by the Gadhafi forces it's clear that its role is much less, and lessening by the day," he said ....
The Canadian Press, 26 Sept 11
 
When does the UN Mandate run out? I thought the end of Sept..................
 
GAP said:
When does the UN Mandate run out? I thought the end of Sept..................
Nothing in the 17 Mar 11 news release and resolution text shows a timeline (except for one year for the creation of a team to deal with Libya), and nothing about a deadline I can see in the 16 Sept 11 resolution creating the United Nations Support Mission in Libya (UNSMIL), either.

Meanwhile, links to last night's debate in the House of Commons on Libya here and here (91 page PDF of all of Libya debate, if you have trouble sleeping, here).

In between the debate bits, a softball question for the Defence Minister on Libya:
Mrs. Cheryl Gallant (Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, CPC): Mr. Speaker, Canada has played an active role in the UN-mandated, NATO-led mission in Libya. In light of recent events showing the anti-Gadhafi forces gaining strength across the country, could the Minister of Defence tell us why the continued mission in Libya is necessary?

Hon. Peter MacKay (Minister of National Defence, CPC): Mr. Speaker, as the member for Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke said, the Canadian Forces are playing a key role in the enforcement of the international community's mission to support the people of Libya and protect them from the brutal Gadhafi forces. In fact, today parts of Libya still remain under the iron fist of Gadhafi. On the weekend, his daughter gave a broadcast that indicated such.  Our government is very proud of the brave men and women in uniform, and their families, whose leadership and efforts have been instrumental in this mission's success to date.  We will continue to work with our NATO allies and partners who enforce the terms of UN Security Council resolutions, and I urge all parliamentarians taking part in today's debate to support Canada's continuation with this important work in helping the--

The Speaker:  Order, please ....

Edited to add Canada's news release on this (attached).
 
More incompetence:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/nightmare-libya-20000-surface-air-missiles-missing/story?id=14610199&singlePage=true

Nightmare in Libya: Thousands of Surface-to-Air Missiles Unaccounted For

By BRIAN ROSS (@brianross) and MATTHEW COLE
Sept. 27, 2011

The White House announced today it planned to expand a program to secure and destroy Libya's huge stockpile of dangerous surface-to-air missiles, following an ABC News report that large numbers of them continue to be stolen from unguarded military warehouses.

Currently the U.S. State Department has one official on the ground in Libya, as well as five contractors who specialize in "explosive ordinance disposal", all working with the rebel Transitional National Council to find the looted missiles, White House spokesperson Jay Carney told reporters.

"We expect to deploy additional personnel to assist the TNC as they expand efforts to secure conventional arms storage sites," Carney said. "We're obviously at a governmental level -- both State Department and at the U.N. and elsewhere -- working with the TNC on this."

ABC News reported today U.S. officials and security experts were concerned some of the thousands of heat-seeking missiles could easily end up in the hands of al Qaeda or other terrorists groups, creating a threat to commercial airliners.

"Matching up a terrorist with a shoulder-fired missile, that's our worst nightmare," said Sen. Barbara Boxer, D.-California, a member of the Senate's Commerce, Energy and Transportation Committee.

Though Libya had an estimated 20,000 man-portable surface-to-air missiles before the popular uprising began in February, Assistant Secretary of State Andrew Shapiro told ABC News today the government does not have a clear picture of how many missiles they're trying to track down.

"We're making great progress and we expect in the coming days and weeks we will have a much greater picture of how many are missing," Shapiro said.

The missiles, four to six-feet long and Russian-made, can weigh just 55 pounds with launcher. They lock on to the heat generated by the engines of aircraft, can be fired from a vehicle or from a combatant's shoulder, and are accurate and deadly at a range of more than two miles.

Peter Bouckaert of Human Rights Watch first warned about the problem after a trip to Libya six months ago. He took pictures of pickup truckloads of the missiles being carted off during another trip just a few weeks ago.

"I myself could have removed several hundred if I wanted to, and people can literally drive up with pickup trucks or even 18 wheelers and take away whatever they want," said Bouckaert, HRW's emergencies director. "Every time I arrive at one of these weapons facilities, the first thing we notice going missing is the surface-to-air missiles."

The ease with which rebels and other unknown parties have snatched thousands of the missiles has raised alarms that the weapons could end up in the hands of al Qaeda, which is active in Libya.

"There certainly are dangerous groups operating in the region, and we're very concerned that some of these weapons could end up in the wrong hands," said Bouckaert.

"I think the probability of al Qaeda being able to smuggle some of the stinger-like missiles out of Libya is probably pretty high," said Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism advisor and now a consultant to ABC News.

Tommy Vietor, spokesman for the National Security Council, told ABC News in a statement similar to Carney's remarks that, "Since the beginning of the crisis, we have been actively engaged with our allies and partners to support Libya's efforts to secure all conventional weapons stockpiles, including recover, control, and disposal of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles."

Boxer: U.S. Passenger Jets at Risk

Adding to the urgency is the fact that America's passenger jets, like those of most countries, are sitting ducks, despite years of warning about the missile threat. Since the 1970s, according to the U.S. State Department, more than 40 civilian planes around the world have been hit by surface-to-air missiles. In 2003, Iraqi insurgents hit a DHL cargo plane with a missile in Baghdad. Though on fire, the plane was able to land safely. Four years later, militants knocked a Russian-built cargo plane out of the sky over Somalia, killing all 11 crew members.

Now there are calls in Congress to give jets that fly overseas the same protection military aircraft have.

"I think we should ensure that the wide-bodied planes all have this protection," said Sen. Boxer, who first spoke to ABC News about the surface-to-air security threat in 2006. "And that's a little more than 500 of these planes."

Boxer sent a letter today to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano urging the two to establish a joint program "to protect commercial aircraft from the threat of shoulder-fired missiles."

According to Boxer, it would cost about a million dollars a plane for a system that has been installed and successfully tested over the last few years, directing a laser beam into the incoming missile.

"For us to sit idly by and not do anything when we could protect 2 billion passengers over the next 20 years [with] a relatively small amount of money [from] the Department of Defense, I think that's malfeasance," said Boxer. "I think that's wrong." And it could be more practical than trying to round up all the missing Libyan missiles.

"Once these missiles walk away from these facilities, they're very difficult to get back, as the CIA realized in Afghanistan," said Bouckaert.

When the Afghan mujahideen were fighting the Soviets more than two decades ago, the CIA supplied the Afghans with 1,000 Stinger surface-to-air missiles, which had a devastating effect on Soviet military aircraft. After the Soviets had retreated, however, the CIA spent millions of dollars trying to buy back the remaining missiles from the Afghan fighters.

According to Bouckaert, the CIA spent up to $100,000 a piece to reacquire the Stingers.

"In Libya we're talking about something on the order of 20,000 surface-to-air missiles," said Bouckaert. "This is one of the greatest stockpiles of these weapons that has ever gone on the loose."
 
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The military mission in Libya is largely complete and NATO's involvement could begin to wrap up as soon as this coming week after allied leaders meet in Brussels, according to the top U.S. commander for Africa.

Army Gen. Carter Ham, head of U.S. Africa Command, told The Associated Press that American military leaders are expected to give NATO ministers their assessment of the situation during meetings late in the week.

NATO could decide to end the mission even though ousted leader Moammar Gadhafi is still at large and his forces are still entrenched in strongholds such as Sirte and Bani Walid.

NATO's decision-making body, the North Atlantic Council, agreed on Sept. 21 to extend the mission over the oil-rich North African nation for another 90 days, but officials have said the decision would be reviewed periodically.

Ham said that the National Transitional Council and its forces should be in "reasonable control" of population centers before the end of the NATO mission, dubbed Unified Protector. And he said they are close to that now ....
Associated Press, 1 Oct 11
 
The fall of Moammar Gadhafi's hometown of Sirte will mark an "iconic" moment in Libya, but it will not spell the end of NATO's air campaign, the alliance's top military officer told AFP on Oct. 11.

Adm. Giampaolo Di Paola, head of the NATO military committee, said Gadhafi loyalists were like a "cornered beast" as the new regime forces took control of key positions in the coastal town.

"When the ferocious beast is cornered, she will fight until the end," Di Paola said in an interview at NATO headquarters. "On the one hand, yes, I am surprised by their capacity to resist but, on the other hand, they have no other choice."

The National Transitional Council (NTC) force seized the police headquarters of Sirte on Oct. 11, two days after taking control of the town's showpiece conference center, university campus and main hospital.

Gadhafi forces are holding on to only one other bastion, the southern desert town of Bani Walid, where the fighting has caused civilians to flee.

( .... )

The Italian admiral said NTC victory in Sirte "will be an iconic moment" but that NATO will only end the mission once civilians are definitely out of harm's way and the NTC is capable of keeping the whole country safe.

"The fall of Sirte is an important element, but like any decision, it will not be the only factor," he said.

A NATO diplomat said some allies will want the six-month-old mission to end once Sirte falls, but others will argue that the alliance should make sure that all of Libya is secure before terminating the operations ....
Agence France-Presse, 11 Oct 11
 
First AAR:

http://www.hoover.org/publications/defining-ideas/article/96531

Lessons of the Libya War
by Kori Schake (Research Fellow)
This military adventure has set a precedent we may not want to repeat.

The leaders of the Free World must have heaved sighs of relief when Tripoli fell to rebel forces. Despite the involvement of the world’s premier military alliance and the three most formidable militaries in the world, it took more than five months of NATO air strikes to assist the rebels to victory over a third-rate despot. Their success in overthrowing the Ghadafi regime is good for the people of Libya, but what might it portend for other rebellions and for the United States?

Ghadafi Didn’t Do Half Badly

The countries that intervened in Libya to assist the rebels hoped that their involvement would signal the resolve of the West to protect vulnerable populations, advance the West’s values, and prevent dictators from preying violently on their own people. Those may not be the lessons other dictators take from the war.
Lessons of Libya War
Illustration by Barbara Kelley

To give a quantitative tale of the tape: the United States spent roughly $687 billion on its military last year, France spent $61 billion, and Britain spent $57 billion. How much did Libya spend? $1.1 billion. Holding off the world’s most powerful military alliance for five months with  one eight hundredth of its spending is a pretty good return on investment.

Qualitatively, the Western powers were clearly unwilling to put ground troops into the fight. If Ghadafi had been able to force a stalemate—and he nearly did—the Western powers would have been faced with the same unpleasant choice Serbia tried for during the 1999 Kosovo war: relinquish your war aims or up the ante beyond what your interests and your public’s will tolerate.

Ghadafi may yet be able to spoil the party by instigating continued violence or an insurgency that discredits the new political order.  There is an emerging playbook for those who would retain their hold on power by force, and it entails: (1) forestalling international organizations from issuing mandates; (2) speaking softly while acting brutally; (3) giving Western militaries little of value to attack; (4) holding on long enough that support erodes in Western countries; (5) discrediting the new government.

Give the Rebels Their Due

While NATO provided important military assistance, preventing the Ghadafi regime from utilizing its military advantages, the rebels won this war. And they did so without—so far—touching off the secondary explosion of civil war, which is a major concern in a society as fractured as Libya has been. Despite their inexperience on the battlefield and in governance, the rebel leaders who have emerged in Libya have made superb choices.  They fought a superior adversary; built alliances across communities; quickly restored civil order in cities as they pushed the government out; resisted looting and reprisals; emphasized the reliability of the country’s justice system to adjudicate wrongs of the regime; put their best faces forward to gain international support; and they did not antagonize the international coalition by blaming it for their failures.

Yes, NATO provided important military assistance, but the rebels won this war.

This is nothing short of amazing. The rebels have done almost everything right. Let us hope the choices of Libya’s new leaders become a model replicated by freedom fighters throughout the world; but let us not plan a strategy (as the Obama administration seems to be doing) assuming these fortuitous circumstances will be the norm.

There is no “European Security and Defense Identity”

Since at least 1990, advocates of the European Union have championed the emergence of a “common European perspective” on defense. They claimed European publics that were stingy with funding for NATO militaries would be more generous when those same militaries were part of the European project. Even before the travails of Greece and other countries endangered the common market, it was clear there was no greater willingness to spend on an EU military than there had been to spend on NATO. Moreover, there was no convergence of views on defense issues: Britain and France retained the reflexes of great powers; Germany looked to avoid responsibility; Italy grandstanded ineffectually; and new NATO members focused on territorial defense while NATO’s traditional front line states gained a territorial buffer that made them less concerned.

The United States initially worried that a unified Europe would marginalize our country. Yet it has been clear for some years that we ought to be more concerned about a Europe unwilling or incapable of sharing the burden of common military ventures. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan reinforced the lack of both a common political perspective and military strength among our allies.

The Libya experience has resuscitated the belief that Britain and France are willing to lead military operations, but it has also shown the real limits of their capacity to fight without American assistance. Or, to be more precise: it demonstrated the gap between what Europeans aspire to and the risks they are willing to run to achieve it.

This is the NATO of the Future

The allies doing the work in Libya are frustrated that less than half of NATO’s twenty-eight member countries are participating in the operation, and less than a third are participating in actual attacks. But this a la carte approach to war is the wave of NATO’s future, and it’s not a bad outcome—because the alternative is for NATO to shrink back into solely caring about the territorial defense of its member states, and that is a NATO of little value to the United States. We need partners that are willing to step forward and help solve problems where those problems are occurring.

Should Syrian demonstrators take to heart our willingness to help those in Libya?

If NATO were to require every member to take a substantial role in every military operation, that would prevent those governments from giving their sanction to NATO undertaking operations. The unanimous agreement required in NATO provides a non-trivial legitimating factor by demonstrating that the world’s most powerful democracies approve of using military force. This is the closest thing to having a concert of democracies, and is internationally useful, especially if a UN Security Council resolution cannot be secured.

NATO allies certainly have differing interests, as well as differing levels of public support for the use of military force.  They also have differing balance sheets that can make financing their participation difficult. To argue, for example, that Greece should be contributing to the Libya war is a tough case to make given the magnitude of its economic problems. But that constraint did not prevent Greece from enabling its allies to act, and that’s valuable.

Where NATO allies might want to consider a change is common funding for operations. Changing that would facilitate participation by more NATO nations, especially the less wealthy ones, and accelerate the modernization of their forces. But it would also make it more difficult to agree on operations, whereas now the countries most concerned bear the greatest expense and risk.

UN Resolutions Become More Difficult

The Chinese and Russians were skeptical about giving the Western powers the running room to intervene in Libya, and seem now to regret having done so. We promised we would prevent genocide, and we went on to arm the rebels in violation of the embargo, to recognize the rebel council as the legitimate government of the country, to bilaterally release to it funds of the Ghadafi government, to advocate the violent overthrow of the Ghadafi government, and to attack military force and leadership targets.

The UN mandate not only set a precedent the Chinese and Russian governments may live to regret, it also showed both to be ineffectual bulwarks against the advance of Western values. An international “right to protect” people against their governments has now been given more support and China’s stock declined as an ally for despots (on which much of its mercantilist policy in Africa and elsewhere is based).

But the Russians and Chinese have both complained bitterly about Western nations exceeding the mandate granted by the UN. They are sure to be more exacting in their restrictions on future resolutions, and exact a higher price from the West for agreeing to any mandates. Our transparent exceeding of the mandate in this instance will serve as a warning to China and Russia not to give a mandate for future cases—like Syria—where the outcome is much more important to our interests.

Leading From Behind = Back Seat Driving

The Obama administration is quite right that it’s in America’s interest to strengthen and embolden allies to share the burden of shaping the international order. But the specific choices the administration made with regards to Libya will diminish rather than increase the likelihood of other states stepping forward to undertake the work of future problems.

President Obama didn’t give the allies anywhere near enough credit on the war. He and his UN Ambassador repeatedly claimed that America was the deciding force on the Security Council resolution that the British and French crafted and negotiated. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton went to NATO meetings without a U.S. position, infuriating our allies and delaying the action they wanted to take to intervene in Libya. The administration released figures on U.S. participation in the war that made clear the operation depended fundamentally on American forces. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates announced how quickly the Europeans were forced to come begging for weapons they lacked and he issued a chill warning that the U.S. would not continue to carry such a disproportionate load of the NATO alliance.

President Obama did not give our allies enough credit for the war's success.

These are not the actions of an administration that is setting its allies up for success. The administration should go back and study the disciplined behavior of the Clinton administration during the UN operation in East Timor, where the United States underwrote Australia’s leadership. We have benefitted for fifteen years from that diplomacy, with Australia’s greater participation in our other wars.

The Easiest Wars to Win Might Not Be the Most Important Ones

Allies—the U.S. included—undertook to help the Libyan rebels because it looked “do-able.” That’s not an unimportant criterion, but it should not be the only one. Every administration calculates whether the objectives of a foreign operation are achievable at a reasonable risk and cost in lives, in money, and in attention diverted from other issues. But the Obama administration’s tortured debates about whether intervening in Libya was in our interests shouted just how limited our interests in that country were. Recall that Gates and the military leadership flatly said no to that question; Clinton said yes, then recalibrated to yes because it matters to our allies; and other administration officials argued for upholding the UN’s right to protect, upholding our values, and upholding multilateralism.

Where marginal interests can be achieved at acceptably low costs, pursuing them can lead to valuable progress toward a better international order. But they are no substitute for fighting the wars that are at the center of our interests. And to the extent that the president, any president, uses his capital on the marginal wars, he has less to direct toward the central ones.

The case of Syria is illustrative, where overthrowing the Assad government would not only benefit the long-suffering people of Syria, but would also remove a government invidious to American interests. Additionally, it would impede Iranian influence in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine.

Moreover, fighting marginal wars confuses allies and enemies alike. Should Syrian demonstrators take to heart (as the president suggests) our willingness to help Libyan demonstrators, or are we encouraging them to run risks when we are only bluffing a willingness to help?

The Return of Stand-Off War

During the 1990s, with the breakup of the Soviet empire, the United States became vastly more secure. The risks of thermonuclear war reduced dramatically and former enemies became potential partners. Navigating the transition was, of course, often dicey, and there emerged new threats where states proved incapable of performing their functions without external assistance. Although the biggest threats were reduced, the less structured international order gave the sense of a proliferation of smaller but still deadly threats: nuclear proliferation, terrorism, and pandemics.

Across four administrations, the U.S. government has sought to manage these new risks by alternating between intense involvement in nation building and remaining aloof to the struggles of people in societies burdened with repressive or incapable governments. Intellectually, we have not yet come to terms with the extent to which we are threatened by what is occurring internally to other states. As a result, we swing between counterinsurgency and stand-off strikes as our military strategy.

If you believe that other societies’ problems are not a danger to us, or that they can be managed by containing threats that may emanate from those societies, then the United States does not need to fight counterinsurgencies of the kind we have in Iraq and Afghanistan. We can remain at stand-off range and strike inside countries with our military forces, punishing our enemies and those states that harbor them. And we can assist the overthrow of governments by insurgents, as we did in Libya, at very little risk or cost to ourselves (Libya has clocked in under a billion dollars for us, which is one ninth of what we are spending every single month in Afghanistan).

This strategy does not, however, provide much influence in the development of those societies. It is in states without the capacity or willingness to govern their territory where problems like terrorism and criminal activity thrive. It is in states that are unsuccessful in navigating the changes of globalization and the demands of their citizens that extremism takes root.

The optimistic argument is that with all we have learned, and all the intelligence systems and alliance relationships we have put in place in the past fifteen years, we will be able to attack these threats with more knowledge and less military force. But it is equally possible that the unwillingness of the United States and other leading powers to fight those wars, or to fight them in ways that shape a society internally, will make us much less effective against these kinds of threats.

Kori Schake is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution. She is also the Bradley Professor of International Security Studies at the United States Military Academy at West Point, N.Y. Her areas of research interest are national security strategy, the effective use of military force, and European politics.
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