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The Mega "MIGRANT THREAT TO EUROPE" thread

CougarKing

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Orban as the voice of anti-migrant sentiment?

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Anti-migrant force builds in Europe, hurting Merkel's quest

Vanessa Gera, The Associated Press
The Canadian Press
February 15, 2016

PRAGUE - So where should the next impenetrable razor-wire border fence in Europe be built?

Hungary's right-wing Prime Minister Viktor Orban thinks he knows the best place — on Macedonia's and Bulgaria's borders with Greece — smack along the main immigration route from the Middle East to Western Europe. He says it's necessary because "Greece can't defend Europe from the south" against the large numbers of refugees pouring in, mainly from Syria and Iraq.

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Describing this whole situation as "disarray" would probably be an understatement.

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Austria, Hungary moves highlight EU disarray over migrants

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The Canadian Press
February 19, 2016

BERLIN - Austria raised the prospect of even tighter limits on the number of asylum seekers entering the country Friday while Hungary said it is shutting three railway border crossings with Croatia, highlighting the disarray within the European Union over migrants.

EU leaders at a summit in Brussels made little headway in the elusive search for joint solutions to the influx of refugees and other migrants, though they did agree to hold a meeting in early March with Turkey. German Chancellor Angela Merkel in particular views diplomacy with
 

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I've been reading about this sort of thing in blogs for months, so it isn't "news". What is newsworthy is that the Legacy Media is finally willing to sit up and report this in the open:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/crowd-cheers-germany-migrant-hostel-7413632

Crowd CHEERS as Germany migrant hostel is burned out - and even try to stop firefighters battling the blaze
18:30, 21 FEB 2016 UPDATED 22:42, 21 FEB 2016
BY SAM ADAMS

The blaze in the town of Bautzen early this morning caused serious damage to the former hotel which was being converted

A crowd is reported to have cheered as a building designated to house migrants in Germany was burnt out in a suspected arson.

The blaze in the town of Bautzen early this morning caused serious damage to the former hotel which was being converted.

Cops claim onlookers tried to prevent firefighters from tackling the blaze.

Officers said members of the crowd took "unashamed delight" in watching the fire.

Two drunken men were arrested after they refused to leave the scene, the BBC reports.

The converted hotel was supposed to house 300 migrants.
Stanislaw Tillich,premier of the state of Saxony, described those involved as "criminals."

The latest incident comes just days after protesters in Clausnitz - also in Saxony - blocked a bus taking migrants to accommodation in the town.

The protesters a reporter to have chanted the slogan , "We are the people", which was used in 1989 during the peaceful uprising which led to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Demonstrators surrounded a bus in Clausnitz carrying migrants

In a further sign of anti-migrant sentiment, police in the Brandenburg region are investigating the distribution of leaflets urging "absolute resistance" against "foreigner invasion".

READ MORE: Hollywood star Jude Law travels to Calais Jungle migrant camp amid fears over refugee children being made homeless

The leaflets, put through letterboxes in the town of Nauen, are the suspected work of neo-Nazis. They also give instructions on making firebombs and using explosives.

Anti-migrant protests have grown across Germany after the country absorbed a million asylum claims in 2015.
 

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Chris Pook noted that the Russians may have facilitated the movement of "migrants" to Europe to destabilize the EU. Here is more a more direct approach, financing the more extremist, nativist parties. The fact that the migrant issue is galvanizing European voters certainly makes this a more attractive proposition, since angry voters are moving towards these nativist parties.

One can only wonder if the Russians have fully thought this through, however. Nativist parties are unlikely to show any gratitude towards outsiders if/when they achieve their goals. The main COA I can see is the Russians are hoping to induce a lot of instability and uncertainty in the European body politic (and of course we should be aware of this here in North America as well), without generating enough support to allow nativists to actually achieve political power. A paralyzed Europe works to Russia's advantage:

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/02/19/national-front-asks-russia-for-30-million-loan/

National Front Asks Russia for $30 Million Loan

Marine Le Pen’s National Front has had a close relationship with the Kremlin in recent years. Now, the Moscow Times reports that Le Pen is looking to Russia for some more financial assistance:

France’s far-right National Front party has asked Russia for a 27-million-euro ($30 million) loan, claiming that the party needs it to finance its election campaigns in 2017, The Times newspaper reported Friday, citing the party’s treasurer.

Le Pen’s party received a loan of 11 million euro from a bank with ties to Russia in 2014. At that time, French politicians and media claimed that the loan bought the party’s public support of Russia’s actions in Ukraine, the Meduza news agency reported.

The CIA has reportedly been investigating European political parties, looking for Russian influence, and we wouldn’t be surprised if the Kremlin were involved in other countries. As we’ve written before, “cracking down on Russian espionage, both commercial and strategic, tracing and publicizing the flow of money and influence in the Kremlin’s propaganda enterprise, and countering Russian disinformation and attempts to shape world opinion must now become part of Western policy.” This latest story is a reminder of the ongoing importance of that effort.
 

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Soldiers of Odin, eh? Well, there are no Frost Giants in Norway.....

http://www.thelocal.no/20160226/soldiers-of-allah-pop-up-in-norway-to-counter-soldiers-of-odin

‘Soldiers of Allah’ to counter Soldiers of Odin in Norway
Published: 26 Feb 2016 12:33 GMT+01:00

People with known ties to the Oslo Islamist scene claim to have created the group ‘Soldiers of Allah’ (Jundullaah) to counter the controversial Soldiers of Odin group now patrolling Norwegian streets.

Soldiers of Odin create political poison in Norway (24 Feb 16)
Soldiers of Odin expand Norway patrols (22 Feb 16)
'Patriot' group Soldiers of Odin debut in Norway (15 Feb 16)

“In response to the infidel group Soldiers of Odin patrols, we Muslims have chosen to create a group that will patrol the streets, first in Oslo, to prevent evil and encourage the good,” a source within the Islamist environment told VG.

The group is officially calling itself Jundullaah, translated to English as ‘Soldiers of Allah’ or Norwegian as ‘Allaahs soldater’.

Someone claiming to be a member of the group sent VG what they said would be the Soldiers of Allah’s official uniform: a black hoodie decorated with the black flag of terror group Isis.

The Norwegian Police Security Service (Politiets Sikkerhetstjeneste - PST) declined to comment on the group, but Labour’s deputy leader Hadia Tajik strongly condemned both of Norway’s new self-declared ‘patrol’ groups.

“Vigilantism does not belong in Norway, whether they do it in the name of Odin or Allah. I assume that the police, who are the only ones who have the authority to patrol the streets and use force, are following these groups as closely as the circumstances require,” she said.

Based on the Finnish group of the same name, which has links to neo-Nazis and was founded last year in response to a record number of migrants and refugees arriving in Europe, the Soldiers of Odin first appeared in Norway on February 13th when a group of 14 men spent three hours walking the streets of Tønsberg.

Since then, they have spread to at least three other Norwegian cities, causing considerable hand-wringing amongst Norwegian politicians.

The Soldiers of Odin have reportedly kicked out the group’s most prominent Norwegian spokesman, Ronny Alte, for his response to the Soldiers of Allah.

The website Vepsen reported that the group took issue with Alte’s remarks about the Islamist group, saying that his comments about a potential clash between the two groups was damaging for the Soldiers of Odin’s image.

Alte told VG that things could “begin to get dangerous” if the Soldiers of Allah used their patrols to recruit extremists and said that the two groups have “two completely different viewpoints”.

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“We want safe streets but they want to use coercion and oppression. That they use a word like ‘infidel’ to describe us really forces a reaction from me. What will they do - force us to convert?” he said.

“That they say the want to patrol for ’the good’ means nothing. What is good for us and what is good for them are two different things,” he added.

Those comments were enough for other members of the group to disassociate themselves with Alte, a former member of Islamophobic groupings such as the Norwegian Defence League and German-based Pegida.
 

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Lots more on Danes--may help understand their big new commitment vs ISIS (with one-fifth Canada's population):

Refugees, Migrants, Muslims–Guess What: The Danes are Danish
https://cgai3ds.wordpress.com/2016/03/04/mark-collins-refugees-migrants-muslims-guess-what-the-danes-are-danish/

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400 troops- isn't that merely an understrength battalion or a single reinforced company?

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Prime Minister Borissov: Bulgaria to send troops to guard Greek border
Agence France-Presse 11:08 a.m. EST March 5, 2016
Migrants Continue To Travel North From Athens To Macedonian Border

SOFIA — Bulgaria will send over 400 troops and other security personnel to guard its border with Greece, amid fears the migrant flow along the Balkan route will pick up with the onset of warmer weather, the prime minister said Saturday.

"Hundreds of people, more than 400, from the army, paramilitary police and police, will stay here permanently," said Prime Minister Boiko Borissov following security force exercises involving helicopters and armored cars at the Greek border near Macedonia.

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The Archbishop of Canterbury speaks out on the issue of Migrants. His is perhaps the first voice from a high ranking official to suggest that there is a problem in finding the resources to deal with such a huge flow of people and that being concerned is not a symptom of "racism" but rather some common sense. If only more people in positions of authority were to speak and act as the Archbishop, rather than ignoring or marginalizing the average voters, then perhaps the rise of populist politicans and parties would not have happened at all:

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/03/13/common-sense-from-a-cleric/

Common Sense from a Cleric

The Archbishop of Canterbury has said that those with fear about large-scale immigration must be listened to, not marginalized. The Telegraph reports:

British families are entitled to fear the impact that “enormous” numbers of migrants will have on jobs, housing and the NHS, the Archbishop of Canterbury has said.

The Most Rev Justin Welby said that it is “absolutely outrageous” to condemn people who raise concerns as “racist” and said that their “genuine fears” must be listened to and addressed.

In an interview with The House magazine, he described the scale of the migration crisis as “colossal” and said that people are “justified” when they raise concerns.[..]

He said: “Fear is a valid emotion at a time of such colossal crisis. This is one of the greatest movements of people in human history. Just enormous. And to be anxious about that is very reasonable.

“There is a tendency to say ‘Those people are racist’, which is just outrageous, absolutely outrageous.

“In fragile communities particularly – and I’ve worked in many areas with very fragile communities over my time as a clergyman – there is a genuine fear: what happens about housing? What happens about jobs? What happens about access to health services?”

The Archbishop added that hope, as well as fear, was justified, and expressed optimism that Britain would be up to the challenge. But he reiterated that concern was rational and not racist.

At a certain level, this amounts to no more than common sense—the numbers coming are enormous, the flow shows few signs of abating, and with all the good will in the world, there are rational reasons to be concerned—not least, there are finite resources and finite ability of each country to absorb and assimilate (much less employ) the number of people who are on the move into and across Europe right now.

But such common sense that has, sadly, been, all too uncommon. The Archbishop’s remarks stand in stark contrast to those of the Pope and of European and American politicians who have implied, to a greater or lesser degree, that concern about or opposition to the refugee flow is illegitimate.

For American leaders looking to shape the political discourse in a post-Trump world, the Archbishop’s words and, just as importantly, tone are a great place to start: recognizing that there are positions on both sides of the debate that are consonant with good intentions and concern for the marginalized. It’s a commentary on the current state of politics in the West that his approach is, for now, the exception rather than the rule.
 

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Earth Day falls to the "migrants"

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/18/sweden-earth-hour-blackout-cancelled-because-of-migrant-rape/

‘Earth Hour’ Blackout Cancelled Because Of Migrant Rape
by OLIVER JJ LANE18 Mar 2016

The annual virtue-signalling festival known as ‘Earth Hour’ won’t be celebrated in one Swedish town this year, thanks to a sex-crime epidemic sweeping the municipality.

The small Swedish town of Östersund — population 44,300 — is presently living in a state of fear. Police have instructed women to not go outside alone at night following a spate of sex attacks, and police patrol in search of the perpetrators who have so far avoided capture.

There have now been 14 separate reports of sex attacks in the town, with victims ranging from grown women to 10-year-old girls. Police have refused to release details of the suspects they are seeking — as is usual in a country where police took the decision last year to combat racism by not discussing the ethnicities of crime suspects — but victims have described “foreign origin” attackers.

The danger is considered so great the symbolic act of turning the town’s municipal lights off for one hour is considered too much of a risk, and police have requested the event be cancelled. The final decision was taken in consultation with local officers on Tuesday, with Social Democrat spokesman for the local council Ann-Sofie Andersson remarking:

“Earth Hour is a good and important event, but this year we chose to have the street lights on in view of what has happened. We want everyone to feel safe”.

Sweden Television News reports the comments of Chief Constable Stephen Jerand, who said: “We from the police think it’s a very wise move and that the municipality made a good decision. Keeping the lights on creates security and is in line with our common efforts to increase security under current conditions”.

Östersund hit the headlines earlier this month after local police warned women to stay indoors at night after a sudden rash of sex assaults. Police are investigating the attempted rape of two ten year old girls at a bus stop, molestations, beatings, and nearly a dozen other attacks.

Aftonbladet reports that groups of volunteers have even joined police out on the streets at night in their patrols.

Locals have pointed to the large migrant camp on the outskirts of the town which houses 500. It is not the first time migrants from that camp have made headlines — the first consignment of redistributed migrants were sent from Italy to Östersund by the European Union in 2015.

Of the 33 migrants who were to be sent to Östersund from Italy, 14 escaped before they could be put onto the plane, and vanished. The remainder had to be kept under “lock and key” until the relocation ceremony and photo-call at Rome airport could take place, as was reported by Breitbart London at the time.

Sweden was one of the first countries to sign up to the WWF ‘Earth Hour’ back in 2008. The event seeks to raise awareness of climate change by turning the lights off worldwide for one hour a year, but the event has been mocked by sceptics as the symbolic use of candles to substitute the electric light is said to be much more polluting.

Earth Hour Sweden is calling on the country to become “100% fossil free” and to halve meat consumption. A letter to the left-wing Swedish government from the organisation calls for an “ambitious” climate policy and for the Swedish government to use its influence at the European Union to force other European countries to adopt these policies too.

Oliver Lane and Raheem Kassam Discuss Earth Hour On Breitbart Daily:
 

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Isn't Sweden now the so called rape capital of the western world?
 

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Jarnhamar said:
Isn't Sweden now the so called rape capital of the western world?

No, not at all. As a matter of fact, they're doing quite well at assimilating their immigrant population. The fear mongering of the conservative media has largely been disproven, though it does make for some sensational headlines.

http://www.thelocal.se/20160209/one-percent-of-swedish-crime-linked-to-refugees

Actually, the local police are having to take extra precautions to deal with far right vigilante groups. The perceived "immigrant problem" is causing the weak minded, reactionary types to cause more trouble than the immigrants they're so up in arms about.

http://www.thelocal.se/20160202/stockholm-special-squad-to-stop-far-right-vigilantes
 

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Bucky said:
No, not at all.

So Sweden doesn't have a rape problem and isn't seen as the rape capital of the western world?

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you'll tell me the police in Sweden haven't been caught covering up cases of sexual assault?

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http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/

It took days for police to acknowledge the extent of the mass attacks on women celebrating New Year’s Eve in Cologne. The Germans were lucky; in Sweden, similar attacks have been taking place for more than a year and the authorities are still playing catch up. Only now is the truth emerging, both about the attacks and the cover-ups. Stefan Löfven, our Prime Minister, has denounced a ‘double betrayal’ of women and has promised an investigation. But he ought to be asking this: what made the police and even journalists cover up the truth?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/europes-rape-epidemic-western-women-will-be-sacrificed-at-the-alter-of-mass-migration/

Much more recently, I travelled from Copenhagen to Malmo by train. Only moments after the train entered Swedish territory, I was witness to what I can only assume to be representative of the new Sweden: a young blonde woman was jogging and had the misfortune of passing a group of men (I have been heavily criticised for describing them as “Middle Eastern-looking men” but that is what they were) who proceeded immediately to harass her – blocking her way, shouting, grabbing their genitals. Soon afterwards, in the centre of Malmo, I was treated to a “pro-Palestinian” rally which I have no doubt at all was attended by many a Jew-hating Islamist, as is common in the new Sweden.

Readers will be more than aware that Sweden has become Europe’s rape capital. Its government has blamed this on everything from increased reporting to the internet to the weather. Norway and Denmark also have some rather alarming rates of rape, but those countries are more readily willing to admit the cause.
 

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Bucky said:
http://www.thelocal.se/20160209/one-percent-of-swedish-crime-linked-to-refugees
This link is of little use, since it doesn't break down the incidents by type; in fact, it's based on "all police calls" -- whether jaywalking  or sexual assault by a flame-thrower wielding dwarf.

But it did allow you to use "fear mongering," "conservative media,"  "weak minded," "reactionary." 


As with many issues, the extreme ends of the spectrum tend to rely on name calling and :panic: rather than presenting rationally-crafted argument, backed by relevant facts.

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Not buying what you're trying to sell Buckey.  I'm with jarnhamar, journeyman and calvaryman on this one.
 

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jollyjacktar said:
Not buying what you're trying to sell Buckey.  I'm with jarnhamar, journeyman and calvaryman on this one.

I'm not on a side with this one, because I don't really know the facts (and I'm not sufficiently interested to research  ;) ).

I'm just repeating my old shtick about "opinions versus informed  opinions."  :nod:
 
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I'm not on a side with this one, because I don't really know the facts (and I'm not sufficiently interested to research  ;) ).

I'm just repeating my old shtick about "opinions versus informed  opinions."  :nod:

I included you as I agreed with your ascertains of what it enabled buckey to say.
 
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