Status on Victoria-class Submarines?

[Colin Parkinson]

Staples needs to be invited along for a ride in one of those Subs, then be allowed to try out the escape gear.

 

[medicineman]

Staples needs to be invited along for a ride in one of those Subs, then be allowed to try out the escape gear.

MUST...BITE...TONGUE...stuff it - would that be at below safe maximum individual escape depth?

MM

 

[Colin Parkinson]

do we really know what the safe depth is without trying it first? Since he is such an expert he can demonstrate it and then write a detailed article quoting himself or not.

 

[medicineman]

do we really know what the safe depth is without trying it first? Since he is such an expert he can demonstrate it and then write a detailed article quoting himself or not.

Actually yes...but I'm not supposed to wish ill of folks in a public forum...much.

MM

 

[Colin Parkinson]

The safe depths you speak of is for mere mortals such as ourselves, not the elite thinkers group that he belongs to you that can transcend beyond mere physiological restraints.

What really frustrates me is that even if you did exactly what he suggests in one article, he would counter it in the next and he will have some journalistic lightweight quote him without bothering to challenge his statement or ask why we should listen to him.

 

[medicineman]

If, as you suggest, he is a deity of some sort, then perhaps a prayer or casual drink with the patron saint of my alma mater (St Michael) would end it all for us as he is smitten back to the D&D lair he emerged from...

MM

 

[drunknsubmrnr]

Plus ca change, plus la memechose.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2013/04/30/ns-hmcs-windsor-generator.html

 

[Colin Parkinson]

We just can't seem to catch a break.

 

[cupper]

:sigh:

 

[Canadian.Trucker]

We just can't seem to catch a break.

Understatement, but so true.  If it's not one thing it's another.  Lets hope all of the submarines are put into active service sooner rather than later.

 

[cupper]

Understatement, but so true.  If it's not one thing it's another.  Lets hope all of the submarines are put into active service sooner rather than later.

We could celebrate and make it a national holiday. :nod:

 

[Canadian.Trucker]

We could celebrate and make it a national holiday. :nod:

It will most likely coincide with a National Holiday already... 150th anniversary of Confederation anyone?  Think positive now.

 

[drunknsubmrnr]

We just can't seem to catch a break.

Or predictions were made that couldn't be kept. It isn't realistic to expect to run the only four submarines of their type at once when we could only run one O-boat out of three and we had a full global supply chain to draw on.

 

[dapaterson]

We just can't seem to catch a break.

Anyone who has ever owned or operated a British car is unsurprised.  A used British car, even lees so.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Mind you I recall the icebreaker Henry Larson, blowing an electric motor on her shakedown run and having to sit dockside for 6 months while a new one was made.

 

[CombatDoc]

Anyone who has ever owned or operated a British car is unsurprised.  A used British car, even lees so.

Remember British vehicle electronics?  "Lucas, Prince of Darkness"!

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Lucas refrigerators, the reason the Brits drink warm beer. Lucas made vacuum cleaners, it was their only product that did not suck, Lucas electricals run on smoke, when the smoke escapes, the part stops working. Lucas switches has 3 positions, dim, flicker and smoke.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Quick sub purchase related question. Had we chosen to go with a another class of sub like the 212/214 would we have run into the same issue as having to switch weapon systems or change the design to suit our weapons? In other words were the designs out there already fitted/designed for the weapons we wanted?

 

[drunknsubmrnr]

Had we chosen to go with a another class of sub like the 212/214 would we have run into the same issue as having to switch weapon systems or change the design to suit our weapons?

Yes.

In other words were the designs out there already fitted/designed for the weapons we wanted?

No.

 

[FoverF]

Follow-up questions:


Are the weapons used by Canada greatly superior to those used by Germany, Italy, France, UK, etc? 


What would the cost comparison be (very approximately) for retrofitting a 4 sub fleet versus replacing Canada's stock of munitions? Close? Vastly more expensive in one direction or the other?