Special Evaluation Course PFT

[Bograt]

Just got my attached posting message this morning. I am going to Portage for the Small Group Evaluation Course beginning 20 June. There are just 12 of us (4 RMC'ers).

Finally after a lifetime of waiting to join the air force, and an equivalent amount of time waiting to get on course, I am about to start my CF flying career.(I am no longer a filing cabinet mover/ or a VNC alphabetical orderer) Provided things go well, I will be off to the Jaw in January.

I have downloaded the cockpit of the new Grob 120, and I am not sure where one puts the quarter.

:cheers:
Boggy

 

[dardt]

Bograt,

Good luck on your course. Be sure to report back and let all us wannabees know what it was like.

 

[Astrodog]

And here I am waiting for the days when i can be a filing cabinet mover/ or a VNC alphabetical orderer! Exciting stuff, good luck man...

 

[TheCheez]

Good luck on that, I know a few of the boys heading over and I hope y'all do well.

According to a few of the instructors that have shown up in the mess the Grob is a little less responsive, but more power and gadgets than the slingsby. Have fun!

 

[PinkPanther]

I got my msg too, and I'll be there on the first serial 0601.  Though the Navs will have first whack at being flown in them.  If you haven't already heard, the student flies from the right seat (to get used to center stick and RH throttle) and we will be wearing an emerg. parachute, http://www.spekon.de/fall_rettung_re-5l_eng.htm at least until Dec 31 06.

I don't know what picture you have of the cockpit, but here is the one we will be flying http://www.pbase.com/klin/portagejan2006

I also have a .pdf of the cockpit layout, but it's at work atm.


When I get back into work I'll be sure to bring the good stuff back and post it.


Also, someone has decided to go ahead a begin making patches for the first serial, I don't know who, but if you know them, be sure to pass it on that there is no "torque" gauges in the Grob, let alone any other light piston banger I know of.  http://www.dbes.ca/product_info.php?products_id=15792&sid=ea1fe638e24cb58b9308193bde7913c5


This looks to be the offical aircraft type patch http://www.dbes.ca/product_info.php?products_id=15789&sid=ea1fe638e24cb58b9308193bde7913c5

 

[Crimmsy]

That 0601 badge belongs to the folks on BFT 0601 here in MJ and there most assuredly is a torque gauge in the Harvard! 

 

[PinkPanther]

Ah, well chaulk that up to an error on DBES then,  I noticed that BFT 0603's patch was incorrectly labelled, should have figured that one out on my own.


Also, do a quick search here for the 120A and you can see the reg. info for all 9.

sry forgot the link http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/activepages/ccarcs/en/current_e.asp#quick?x_lang=e

 

[SupersonicMax]

Bograt, who told you you would be in MJ in January?  I was told 14-18 months just last March.

Max

 

[Bograt]

...Max

The WO and Capt at Pilot Training PAT told the eight non RMCers taking part in the Special Evaluation Group that "upon successful completion of PFT we would be scheduled to go to Moose Jaw in January". My moose Jaw number is 81 as well. 1 CAD has us all listed (that is all 2Lts and above). I don't know how fellows from Hogwarts are managed. I believe the use some kind of "sorting hat"

Slayer,

I was reading the spec pages on the G-120, and it indicated that it was a constant speed prop. Do you know if there is a throttle and prop control.

Cheers,

 

[PinkPanther]

I don't know how fellows from Hogwarts are managed. I believe the use some kind of "sorting hat"

Slayer,

I was reading the spec pages on the G-120, and it indicated that it was a constant speed prop. Do you know if there is a throttle and prop control.

Cheers,

They have actually told me over the phone that they have selected names from a hat before!!!

And yes it is constant speed and the layout is standard order from left to right - throttle, prop, mix.
(note:  it would be nice to have a copy of that checklist sitting on the dash)

 

[Hot Lips]

Congrats Bograt,

Sounds exciting...looks it too!!

HL

 

[Bograt]

Just got word, my BFT is scheduled for Oct 23 2006.

I believe the analogy that the pilot training system was a constipated cow was correct. It appears that I have just been deposited.

 

[Zoomie]

Oct '06 is a good date Bograt - you must be happy with that.

Good luck on the Grob.

 

[Astrodog]

is the wait for BFT on the decline at all or is this going to be a relatively permanent reality?

 

[PinkPanther]

K, here is the .pdf of the Grob cockpit
http://www.rapidsharing.com/9ed5ba7875a26c0a9d2602708a8930fa

And the only other spec info I found on it
http://www.airtraining.forces.gc.ca/training/fmt/canadawings_grobg120a_e.asp

 

[TheCheez]

is the wait for BFT on the decline at all or is this going to be a relatively permanent reality?

It's always changing and about the best you're gonna get is rumour mill fodder. They're increasing class sizes now though, and getting more Canadians into said increased classes. This also has some implications with how long it could take to finish, more students with constant # of airframes kind of thing. You might also get lucky: the course starting next week is made up largely of people who were told late 2006 but because of the delays at PFT and because they've already done PFT, they got here early.

Looking further down the line increasing production at BFT just moves the bottleneck to Phase 3/OTU.

 

[WO2 Gubbels]

  *looks on in envy, then goes and cries in his cessna*

 

[ROTP Applicant]

Could someone explain to me how course-loading works for BFT? I've noticed how SupersonicMax, with PFT already completed, has to wait 14-18 months for his BFT serial, while Bograt gets on BFT pretty much right after the completion of his PFT serial. Do the DEO guys get priority over the ROTP guys, or is it simply luck? Thanks in advance for the replies.

 

[TheCheez]

I think ROTP are scheduled as they graduate, and DEU's are scheduled either after BOTC or after SLT. Bograt was probably one of the guys who was supposed to do PFT last November and BFT sometime around now but with the handover @portage got pushed back. Those guys essentially traded places with the RMC types who were scheduled late 06 and are instead showing up now.

That's how I understand it anyway, might be wrong.

 

[Zoomie]

"The Cheez" is pretty close... RMC grads are entered into the Pilot Making machine upon their graduation from Charm School.  DEO grads get their number for PFT upon completion of SLT - when/if they pass their first foray through Portage, they are entered into the system for BFT.  In some cases, their placement may be augmented to reflect a training delay imparted upon them by the CF.