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Wow, the sentiment expressed by the person who created this is offensive.milnews.ca said:... impressed by the creativity of those with access to Photoshop (source).
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Wow, the sentiment expressed by the person who created this is offensive.milnews.ca said:... impressed by the creativity of those with access to Photoshop (source).
RocketRichard said:Wow, the sentiment expressed by the person who created this is offensive.
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RocketRichard said:Wow, the sentiment expressed by the person who created this is offensive.
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Consider the sourceRocketRichard said:Wow, the sentiment expressed by the person who created this is offensive.
milnews.ca said:Consider the source
Hamish Seggie said:Well?
milnews.ca said:... shook my head at the ... range ... of discourse on FB (source - also attached in case the link doesn't work)
Pusser said:Offensive, simply for being historically inaccurate:
1) The figure of 620K was long thought to be the tally for deaths in the US Civil War (it has since been shown that the number is actually higher), but nevertheless, it is a total of deaths on BOTH sides. It's probably pretty safe to say that very few, if any, of the Confederates died to free black slaves.
2) The US Civil War may have ended slavery and although it was undoubtedly a significant factor, it is still debatable as to whether freeing the slaves was what the war was about.
3) Even if it is agreed that the war was about ending slavery, it was certainly NOT about creating racial equality, nor did it come close to achieving that.
4) Racism remained rampant across the entire US after the US Civil War, albeit more overtly in some areas than others. The US Army was segregated until 1948.
Pusser said:Offensive, simply for being historically inaccurate:
1) The figure of 620K was long thought to be the tally for deaths in the US Civil War (it has since been shown that the number is actually higher), but nevertheless, it is a total of deaths on BOTH sides. It's probably pretty safe to say that very few, if any, of the Confederates died to free black slaves.
2) The US Civil War may have ended slavery and although it was undoubtedly a significant factor, it is still debatable as to whether freeing the slaves was what the war was about.
3) Even if it is agreed that the war was about ending slavery, it was certainly NOT about creating racial equality, nor did it come close to achieving that.
4) Racism remained rampant across the entire US after the US Civil War, albeit more overtly in some areas than others. The US Army was segregated until 1948.
I've mentioned something like that on some social media (specifically, how many Confederates died to free the slaves?), but I'm still waiting for a response.Pusser said:The figure of 620K was long thought to be the tally for deaths in the US Civil War (it has since been shown that the number is actually higher), but nevertheless, it is a total of deaths on BOTH sides. It's probably pretty safe to say that very few, if any, of the Confederates died to free black slaves.
A killed by (B who supports X) =/= A supports X (which is what "died to free black slaves" suggests)jollyjacktar said:I would counter they did indeed die so that slavery could be ended (that might not have been their end goal and is what you're alluding to) but their deaths along with the Union deaths made it possible nevertheless.
If that's the case, stay away from FB, folks - between people raging against Trump being a Nazi and people raging against biased media like the BBC helping Muslims deploy their creeping sharia agenda in the West, you'll face a whole heaping helping of offense of one kind or another.Kat Stevens said:You find historical inaccuracy in an internet meme offensive?
milnews.ca said:I've mentioned something like that on some social media (specifically, how many Confederates died to free the slaves?), but I'm still waiting for a response.
A killed by (B who supports X) =/= A supports X (which is what "died to free black slaves" suggests)
<GodwinWarning>Using that reasoning, the SS* died, in part, to free the Jews/gypsies/cosmopolitans/homosexuals from the extermination camps.</GodwinWarning>
If the Confederates died to abolish slavery, at least SOME of the monuments set up to their dead would mention it. And even though I read those biased MSM outlets and not infowars.com, I haven't read about toooooooooooooo many pro-Confederate functions/protests/rallies using "we are here to honour the brave Southerners who died to free the slaves" key messaging. On both the protest and monument thing, though, I stand to be corrected, though.
If that's the case, stay away from FB, folks - between people raging against Trump being a Nazi and people raging against biased media like the BBC helping Muslims deploy their creeping sharia agenda in the West, you'll face a whole heaping helping of offense of one kind or another.
Still, it's nice to hear from all sides to learn how to read between the lines in our post-truth media landscape, isn't it? ;D
* - And yes, I know the difference between the SS camp bureaucracy and the Waffen SS.
Eaglelord17 said:The modern narrative that is spread about the Civil War being about slavery is equivalent to the narrative that was spread about Germany being the main cause of WWI. It is a attempt to completely discredit the South and in turn make it seem as they had no legitimacy in fighting the war in the first place. History is written by the victors.
Eaglelord17 said:(which is how I feel about Wynne, the North should separate! ;D).
mariomike said:Be careful what you wish for.
Michael Gravelle, the Minister of Northern Development and Mines, said "I look at it from the perspective of would this be good for Northern Ontario . . . and I don‘t think it would be.”
Proposal For The Province of Toronto
http://www.liquisearch.com/proposal_for_the_province_of_toronto/history
daftandbarmy said:As we seem to be on the Mother of All Tangents, I find it interesting and ironic that the Confederates, Germans (WW1 & 2) and Japanese (WW2) all fired the first shot in anger, then were destroyed almost completely in the conflagrations that followed. Neo-apologist positions seeking to blame others for these conflicts tend to minimize that 'first shot' fact.
Fair ball, however ...Eaglelord17 said:To simply say that the South was a bunch of slave owning racists doesn't excuse the fact the North also had a bunch of slave owning racists even after the war was over (which is something most modern perspectives ignore).
As opposed to the risk of the loss of a significant source of free labour? What proportion of the south's economy was dependent on slaves? As opposed to the north?Eaglelord17 said:The Civil War was fought primarily over the political exclusion of the Southern States from the political process ...
milnews.ca said:Fair ball, however ...As opposed to the risk of the loss of a significant source of free labour? What proportion of the south's economy was dependent on slaves? As opposed to the north?