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Satellites will need some sort of lightweight protection against radiation, microwaves and laser weaponry, and aircraft systems will need shielding as well. "Cold Plasma" is an interesting concept which might fit the bill. Other potential uses include radar cloaking and decontamination.

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/cold_plasma_000724.html

Force Fields and 'Plasma' Shields Get Closer to Reality
By James Schultz
Special to SPACE.com
posted: 07:00 am ET
25 July 2000

Space-borne protective energy systems, like the deflector shields on the fictional starship U.S.S. Voyager, are on the drawing board of real-world scientists.

These "cold plasmas" -- analogs to the sophisticated defensive grids envisioned by Star Trek's creators -- are ambient-temperature, ionized gases related to those found deep within the sun’s core.

Such plasmas are capable of shielding satellites and other spacecraft, making them invisible to radars, or both. Nor will they fry electronics or melt metal.

On Earth, cold plasmas should permit rapid, room-temperature sterilization of food, medical equipment and contaminated civilian and military gear. Low-temperature plasmas could one day also make possible an entire new generation of miniature lasers and ultra-low-energy fluorescent light tubes.

While scientists have known of low-temperature plasmas since at least the end of the 19th century, only within the past several years have techniques emerged to make cold plasma generation practical.

“This Star Wars stuff is coming .... A good cold plasma could really help out by reflecting or absorbing energy from a microwave war weapon.”
   
Vaulting to the first ranks of cold-plasma research in the last three years has been soft-spoken, unassuming Tunisian native Mounir Laroussi, an electrical and computer engineer at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia. Research groups at Stanford, Princeton, Ohio State, Wisconsin and New York Polytechnic also are conducting their own plasma-research programs.

Laroussi has literally put plasma on the table: devising an apparatus that creates a mini-plasma inside a Plexiglas cube by passing an electric current through helium gas via specially calibrated electrodes.

Laroussi’s process, specified in pending patent applications, is scalable; cold-plasma containers of virtually any size are feasible. No vacuum pumps are required, since the plasma is generated at normal atmospheric pressure.

"Mounir is on the forefront. He’s one of the pioneers," said Igor Alexeff, president of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers' Nuclear and Plasma Sciences Society and professor emeritus of electrical engineering at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. "He’s pushing very hard to develop a variety of practical plasmas. His work is pretty impressive."

Invulnerable and invisible

The U.S. Air Force allocates some $10 million a year for research geared toward satellite protection. Of that amount, $2 million is dedicated to low-temperature plasma studies.

Robert Barker, program manager for plasma physics in the Air Force’s Office of Scientific Research in Arlington, Virginia is so taken with Laroussi’s approach that he thus far has funneled $250,000 into Laroussi’s research since his arrival at Old Dominion from the University of Tennessee a little over a year ago. The Air Force has supported Laroussi’s work since 1996.

Barker is drawn not just by Laroussi’s plasma-creating prowess, but his ability to make low-temperature plasma inexpensively, in bulk and without the need for hulking equipment.

"What’s intriguing about Mounir’s work is the large volumes of plasma he’s been able to generate," Barker said. "He’s making very good progress in keeping costs and weight low. His approach gives the best power figures for practical, large-volume generation of cold plasma we have to date."

Power-hungry plasmas

Poke a finger inside Laroussi’s tabletop plasma-generating apparatus and all you’ll get from the bluish, pilot-light-like ionized gas is a slight tingle. But the harmless sensation is misleading, since it doesn’t give a complete picture of plasma’s power. Depending on how a plasma is "tuned," or how it is made more dense by increasing its frequency, it could ward off microwave bursts and discharges from ground-based, energized sources of potential damage and disruption.

Swirling in and around one another, a plasma’s charged particles interact constantly, giving rise to localized attractions or repulsions. External energy splashing against the plasma --- say, from a potentially disabling, concentrated burst of microwaves, or perhaps even from certain varieties of particle-beam weapons fired from military bases on Earth -- could be caught up within the plasma’s complex electromagnetic fields to be dissipated completely or deflected into space.

Hotter plasmas, while dense, don’t appear immediately practical as a defensive shield because of destructive temperatures and high power requirements. In theory, cold plasmas can be made denser, but like their hotter kin will demand more power. Energy availability and weight --- the larger the required wattage, the heavier the equipment --- would remain thorny issues.

"In theory, a plasma could deflect a particle beam or laser attack," Laroussi says. "It depends on what you’re shooting at it and how high you can tune the plasma frequency. That doesn’t mean it’s easy or practically achievable, particularly with a cold plasma. It’s a tough requirement to meet at present."

Cloaking mirrors

A nearer-term application is cloaking. With the proper adjustments, a plasma can be made into a kind of energy mirror, reflecting back or away incoming electromagnetic waves, such as those emitted from ground-based radars. In essence, any spacecraft outfitted with this kind of plasma field would be completely cloaked from the probing attentions of radar operators.

"The idea is to deflect or absorb the energy completely," Laroussi said. "If you absorb the energy --- completely dissipating it within the plasma --- the radar doesn’t see anything. Nothing reflects back."

Light but potent

Lofting payloads into space must currently observe one of the Space Age’s key commandants: Make nothing so heavy that it must cost much to launch.

Any on-board plasma-generation equipment would therefore have to be small and lightweight. Laroussi’s gear seems to fit the bill -- compact enough to save on weight, yet powerful enough to produce the necessary plasma volume.

But don’t expect completely impervious shields anytime soon. Any number of technical issues remains to be solved, not the least of which is exactly how to make cold plasmas dense enough to withstand attack. The ultimate --- protection against projectiles or lasers --- is likely decades away, at best.

"Ablative shields made of solid material might work," said the Air Force’s Barker. "A portion of the solid would be converted to plasma [when hit]. But In a strict sense, I don’t consider that plasma shielding."

The Star Wars stuff

Less immediately space-like, but no less practical, are biological applications. Cold plasmas allow for rapid decontamination of clothing, equipment or personal gear. In disrupting the integrity of cell membranes, the plasmas appear to offer a rapid, simple and inexpensive means of destroying even the hardiest bacterial spores. At present, sterilization time can run hours; use of a cold plasma could sanitize in mere minutes.

Should this application pan out, it could offer to hospitals and armies alike a safe and reliable way to counteract potential health hazards, either those posed by disease or in combat. Likewise, exobiologists might rest easy knowing that cold plasmas could remove the potential threat of contamination from collected interplanetary samples returned to Earth’s surface.

Still, it’s hard to vanquish all the Sci-Fi combat scenarios. Plasmas may be one of the best defensive options as offensive capabilities continue a rapid and relentless advance.

"This Star Wars stuff is coming," said Igor Alexeff. "Laser and high-power microwave weapons are on the way; they’re almost here. Lasers are fierce weapons. To protect against them, you’d need a very dense plasma, almost a solid. But a good cold plasma could really help out by reflecting or absorbing energy from a microwave-powered war weapon."
 
Star Trek - so many 'radical' ideas that have come to be true nowadays...
 
You start a thread on the "tech" that was "invented" or "first seen" in Star Trek that became real.

Personal commucators - Sat and cell phones
Desk top computers - PCs
Data pads - PDAs
etc....

 
Teleportation.....they actually have teleported a particle of light.  Granted it was only about 3 inches mind you but still....progress yes?
 
Don't you mean "Shields up"? Just annoying when one sees typos in the title.

Wasn't there a book that came out several years ago called The Physics of Star Trek? Did anyone here read it and do you think the theories behind them are plausible?

BTW, shouldn't this be in Radio Chatter? hehe... ;D

 
If you can find it out there, there's a 2 hour documentary called "How William Shatner changed the world". I've seen it on Discovery Channel. It gives a pretty good summary of all Star Trek influenced technologies we now have.
 
Slight hijack: Is William Shatner a naturalized US citizen after all those years of working there? Makes me wonder what kind of US President he would make if they changed the law allowing foreign-born citizens to run for President in the States? hehehe...but then again Ahhh-nold Schwarzenegger, the California Gover-nator would run too and that would be scary...  >:D ;D
 
Moderate hijack:  Star trek vs. the Terminator? Interesting concept...

Back to your regularily scheduled thread...

I heard that 'mockumentary' was pretty funny.. in fact I think someone said that here on a related thread?  Still havent seen it yet myself but its on my list...
 
Getting back to the point that Sci-fi like Star Trek have influenced many invetions or ideas.  Its amazing how a show like that can drive our imagination to eventualy produce the objects someone once made up.  For example warp drive and faster-than-light travel is being taken serioursly over the last decades.  Look at NASA's website. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research/warp/warp.html

and http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/index.html where $1.6M was invested into this type of research. 
Obviously we have just began to scratch the surface but it's just a matter of time before some of us will be saying "engage!"
 
The Enterprise was also equipped with a Bussard ramjet. A electromagnetic field to collect Hydrogen particles. They are still working on how to build a real one.
 
Evidently the Russians are still working on this concept, although their funding woes means this is probably only just ticking over (if at all).

http://www.military-heat.com/43/russian-plasma-stealth-fighters/#more-43

Writing by Tolip on Wednesday, 3 of October , 2007 at 2:30 pm

First developed by the Russians, plasma stealth technology is also known as “Active Stealth Technology”. Plasma stealth is a proposed process that uses ionized gas (plasma) to reduce the radar cross section (RCS) of an aircraft. A plasma stream is injected in front of the aircraft covering the entire body of the aircraft and absorbing most of the electromagnetic energy of the radar waves, thus making the aircraft difficult to detect.

There are few experimental studies of plasma’s effect on RCS. One of the most interesting articles was published by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) in 1963 and described the effect of plasma on the RCS of aircraft. The article entitled “Radar cross sections of dielectric or plasma coated conducting spheres and circular cylinders” was based on the data offered by Sputnik, the first artificial satellite launched by the Soviet Union on October 4, 1957.

While trying to track Sputnik it was noticed that its electromagnetic scattering properties were different from what was expected for a conductive sphere. This was due to the satellite traveling inside of a plasma shell.While Sputnik was flying at high velocity through the ionosphere it was surrounded by a naturally-occuring plasma shell and because of it there were two separate radar reflections: the first from the surface of the satellite itself and the second from the plasma shell. If one of the reflections is greater the other one will not contribute much to the overall effect. When the two reflections have the same order of magnitude and are out of phase relative to each other cancellation occurs and the RCS becomes null. The aircraft becomes invisible to radar.

In January 1999, the Russian news agency ITAR-TASS published an interview with Doctor Anatoliy Koroteyev who talked about the plasma stealth device developed by his organization. Doctor Koroteyev was the director of the Keldysh Research Center. There have also been claims that in 2002 the Russians tested a plasma stealth device on board a Su-27 and RCS was reduced by a factor of 100.

The Keldysh Research Center has created a plasma generator that weights no more than 100 kilos, thus making it possible to be fitted on board most tactical aircraft. Current stealth technology uses radar absorbent materials (RAM) and angled surfaces that don’t reflect radar waves back. This constitutes as a main drawback, since an alteration of the airframe has negative effects on the flight characteristics of these aircraft. The third generation stealth technology F-22 Raptor seems however to be an exception since it is both a fast aicraft and very maneuverable.

By using a plasma generator the aerodynamic characteristics of the aircraft do not suffer which in term means that the payload is increased making it more effective. The use of this technology offers the benefit of not having to carry the payload internally to be able to fool enemy radar. The Sukhoi Su-35 and the MiG-35 (both upgrades of Su-27 and MiG-29) are the first to benefit from this technology.
One of the most interesting russian fighters to benefit from the plasma stealth technology is the MiG 1.42/1.44 also known as the MFI (Mnogofunktsionalny Frontovoi Istrebitel - Multifunctional Frontline Fighter). This new aircraft is a fifth generation air-superiority fighter, a rival for the american F-22 Raptor. Both aircraft have the same supercruise capability as well as thrust vectoring for supermaneuverability (a capability to fly at supercritical angles of attack, at increased level of sustained and available g-loads and high turn-angle rate, which require a greater thrust-to-weight ratio and improved wing aerodynamic efficiency). This aircraft may prove to be a milestone in aviation, as so many russian aircraft were before.
 
Chou said:
faster-than-light travel is being taken serioursly over the last decades

i asked my physics teacher why in space travel where theres no friction we can't accelerate faster than light. much to my amazement, he told me that as you speed up, mass actually increases, to the point where its infinite. so in order to accelerate infinite mass, u need infinite energy. light being photons doesnt have mass so its not so much of a problem for light... we humans arent so lucky.

i know these NASA guys are some kind of smart but if they can figure a way around that hurdle i dont even wanna try and understand it.
 
Please use proper capitalization and spelling.

Clear communication is a requirement in the CF, especially at the officer level, and it is expected here as well.

You will be judged on it in both places.

Thank-you.
 
The physics of warp drive are actually quite the short cut around faster than light travel. If any of you have ever heard of Alcubierre Metric, that is the real nitty gritty physics behind how the theory would work. Put rather simply, warp drive is not causing a vehicle to travel at a greater velocity than 1.0c, rather it is a method of bending space around the vehicle, bringing the point of origin, and the destination into contact. As soon as the two areas are bent inwards enough, and touch, it is possible for the vehicle to move seamlessly to the destination in a very short distance. When space reverts to 'normal' the ship can be some lightyears away from where it started. Of course you can see the problems with this idea. Bending space isn't the problem, but creating the technology to do it, and having enough power to do it on a large enough scale that it allows travel up to light years is a definite challenge. That is why in Star Trek they have a warp core, which is a matter/ anti-matter reactor. That would be roughly the type of power we would need to discover to do something like warp in real life.

OK end of long science lecture :D You can tell I have a bit too much free time on my hands tonight.
 
I don't know much about Star Trek but the physics of all this stuff blows my mind. I quickly learned after a few chats with my teacher to just accept that these things are possible, and that although there is an explanation, my brain just is not capable of comprehending any of it.

I hope this is more to your liking, Loachman, but it will take some getting used to, so bare with me. ;D
 
Jorkapp said:
If you can find it out there, there's a 2 hour documentary called "How William Shatner changed the world". I've seen it on Discovery Channel. It gives a pretty good summary of all Star Trek influenced technologies we now have. 

Saw it last month.  A lot of inventors seemed willing to attribute their desire for exploring technology to the original star trek series...
 
Electron accelerators the size of a grain of rice can be used to do many things outlined in the article. This is also a way to create plasmas (for active stealth and other purposes), and not mentioned in the article is generating high power electron beams for Free Electron Lasers (FEL), which are energy efficient, scalable to many different power levels and "tunable" as to the wavelength of light that can be emitted.

http://www6.slac.stanford.edu/news/2013-09-27-accelerator-on-a-chip.aspx

Researchers Demonstrate 'Accelerator on a Chip'
Technology could spawn new generations of smaller, less expensive devices for science, medicine

September 27, 2013
Menlo Park, Calif. — In an advance that could dramatically shrink particle accelerators for science and medicine, researchers used a laser to accelerate electrons at a rate 10 times higher than conventional technology in a nanostructured glass chip smaller than a grain of rice.

The achievement was reported today in Nature by a team including scientists from the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory and Stanford University.

“We still have a number of challenges before this technology becomes practical for real-world use, but eventually it would substantially reduce the size and cost of future high-energy particle colliders for exploring the world of fundamental particles and forces,” said Joel England, the SLAC physicist who led the experiments. “It could also help enable compact accelerators and X-ray devices for security scanning, medical therapy and imaging, and research in biology and materials science.”

Because it employs commercial lasers and low-cost, mass-production techniques, the researchers believe it will set the stage for new generations of "tabletop" accelerators.

At its full potential, the new “accelerator on a chip” could match the accelerating power of SLAC’s 2-mile-long linear accelerator in just 100 feet, and deliver a million more electron pulses per second.

This initial demonstration achieved an acceleration gradient, or amount of energy gained per length, of 300 million electronvolts per meter. That's roughly 10 times the acceleration provided by the current SLAC linear accelerator.

“Our ultimate goal for this structure is 1 billion electronvolts per meter, and we’re already one-third of the way in our first experiment,” said Stanford Professor Robert Byer, the principal investigator for this research.


This animation explains how the accelerator on a chip uses infrared laser light to accelerate electrons to increasingly higher energies. (Greg Stewart/SLAC)

How It Works

Today’s accelerators use microwaves to boost the energy of electrons. Researchers have been looking for more economical alternatives, and this new technique, which uses ultrafast lasers to drive the accelerator, is a leading candidate.

Particles are generally accelerated in two stages. First they are boosted to nearly the speed of light. Then any additional acceleration increases their energy, but not their speed; this is the challenging part.

In the accelerator-on-a-chip experiments, electrons are first accelerated to near light-speed in a conventional accelerator. Then they are focused into a tiny, half-micron-high channel within a fused silica glass chip just half a millimeter long. The channel had been patterned with precisely spaced nanoscale ridges. Infrared laser light shining on the pattern generates electrical fields that interact with the electrons in the channel to boost their energy. (See the accompanying animation for more detail.)

Turning the accelerator on a chip into a full-fledged tabletop accelerator will require a more compact way to get the electrons up to speed before they enter the device. 

A collaborating research group in Germany, led by Peter Hommelhoff at Friedrich Alexander University and the Max Planck Institute of Quantum Optics, has been looking for such a solution. It simultaneously reports in Physical Review Letters its success in using a laser to accelerate lower-energy electrons.

Multi-Use Accelerators

Applications for these new particle accelerators would go well beyond particle physics research. Byer said laser accelerators could drive compact X-ray free-electron lasers, comparable to SLAC’s Linac Coherent Light Source, that are all-purpose tools for a wide range of research.

Another possible application is small, portable X-ray sources to improve medical care for people injured in combat, as well as provide more affordable medical imaging for hospitals and laboratories. That’s one of the goals of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency’s (DARPA) Advanced X-Ray Integrated Sources (AXiS) program, which partially funded this research. Primary funding for this research is from the DOE’s Office of Science.


SLAC's Joel England explains how the same fabrication techniques used for silicon computer microchips allowed their team to create the new laser-driven particle accelerator chips. (SLAC)

The study's lead authors were Stanford graduate students Edgar Peralta and Ken Soong. Peralta created the patterned fused silica chips in the Stanford Nanofabrication Facility. Soong implemented the high-precision laser optics for the experiment at SLAC’s Next Linear Collider Test Accelerator. Additional contributors included researchers from the University of California-Los Angeles and Tech-X Corp. in Boulder, Colo.

SLAC is a multi-program laboratory exploring frontier questions in photon science, astrophysics, particle physics and accelerator research. Located in Menlo Park, California, SLAC is operated by Stanford University for the U.S. Department of Energy Office of Science. To learn more, please visit www.slac.stanford.edu.

DOE’s Office of Science is the single largest supporter of basic research in the physical sciences in the United States, and is working to address some of the most pressing challenges of our time. For more information, please visit science.energy.gov.

Citation: E. A. Peralta et al., Nature, 27 Sept 2013 (10.1038/nature12664)

Press Office Contact: Andy Freeberg, SLAC, afreeberg@slac.stanford.edu, (650) 926-4359

Scientist Contacts:

Robert Byer, Stanford University, rlbyer@stanford.edu, (650) 723-0226

Joel England, SLAC, england@slac.stanford.edu, (650) 926-3706
 
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