RMC team ends 128 game losing streak
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So their lifetime record is 1-128.
The CF pays for this sports team why again? Has the concept of reinforcing success ever crossed anyone's mind?
The CF pays for this sports team why again? Has the concept of reinforcing success ever crossed anyone's mind?
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dapaterson said:
Maybe because the concept of giving it your all is something more important to learn?
Seems funny that some rant that there are too many in high places more worried about their *success* rather than their giving it the best attempt possible, yet would toss this team a sucker punch from the back.......
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Bruce Monkhouse said:
Well said. I was taught that to win or lose is not important, it's how you played the game that counted, and never give up. Good life lesson that applies to just about everything, and that is why we support sports teams, to develop our people, not to win. We can leave winning to the Maple Leafs (I digress).
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What's wrong with intramurals? Why does RMC need extramural teams at all? (Particularly those with 1-128 lifetime records.) From a recruiting standpoint, offering the Washington Generals of CIAU basketball hardly seems the image we want to portray.
Personnally, I'd scrap the CF (read Reg Force) sports program and re-invest those funds in gym and recreation facilities - a more broad based approach.
On the other hand, right now they're in the middle of their greatest winning streak of all time - so perhaps it's just how you spin the story...
Personnally, I'd scrap the CF (read Reg Force) sports program and re-invest those funds in gym and recreation facilities - a more broad based approach.
On the other hand, right now they're in the middle of their greatest winning streak of all time - so perhaps it's just how you spin the story...
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Its important to keep these teams going. I think teamwork is the main fundamental to be taken away from this. Lets also not forget that, university life at RMC is a much rougher go then civy street. Teams like this are probably a good way to save a little sanity for some of the students.
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dapaterson
I guess its safe to assume you never played sports as a kid because after all what could teamwork, initiative, physical fitness, coordination or morale have anything to do with life in the military.
I guess its safe to assume you never played sports as a kid because after all what could teamwork, initiative, physical fitness, coordination or morale have anything to do with life in the military.
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rampage800 said:
Glad you are so insightful. And wrong.
As I said: Why not intramurals? Why not reinvest the funds spent on CIAU teams (and some other parts of the sports program) to provide better gym and rec facilities across the CF?
And don't try the "poor old RMC students" line - that dog don't hunt. Who has it harder over the course of their degree - DEO paying their own way vs RMC?
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dapaterson said:
Intramurals are much different. Personally, I didn't think there was nearly as much competition and team spirit as in a real sports team.
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Meh, I have never experienced DEO, however, many get grants and bursaries (especially athletes), so I'd say that for someone in a sports team, the RMC kid has it much harder than the DEO kid.
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We should scrap sports because they don't meet your lofty expectations or ?
Funny how you didn't mention only CIAU before
If you don't like sports than thats fine but to can them to have a nicer running track which coincidentally enough will have almost all the same people that you see on the sports teams and a few others is pretty narrow minded I would think. Not everybody is ready to play "rec" once they join the CF.
Funny how you didn't mention only CIAU before
If you don't like sports than thats fine but to can them to have a nicer running track which coincidentally enough will have almost all the same people that you see on the sports teams and a few others is pretty narrow minded I would think. Not everybody is ready to play "rec" once they join the CF.
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Navy gets their arses kicked just about every year by Notre Dame in NCAA Football yet they keep coming back.
Good stuff, I says.
Point is, not everyone is focused on "winning" because, in sport, what exactly is "winning" sometimes?
Edited to add: The armed services schools have had some very good athletes go through them. Maybe a separate thread.
Good stuff, I says.
Point is, not everyone is focused on "winning" because, in sport, what exactly is "winning" sometimes?
Edited to add: The armed services schools have had some very good athletes go through them. Maybe a separate thread.
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dapaterson said:
I was not refering to financial hardship in any way shape or form. More the constant cockwagon that one gets as compared to a civy university.
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I will try to keep this simple.
The CF exists to project force at the will of the government. Enablers in the CF exist to ensure that, when called, the CF is ready.
Widespread fitness facilities exist for CF mebmers to ensure their physical fitness, and is something that should be supported and encouraged and resourced as a erquirement of military readiness.
Playing university basketball, sending biathletes to Europe for training or competitions, or other CISM or CIAU activites do not map well against the CF mandate. Those resoruces can be much better applied to other parts of the defence program.
The CF exists to project force at the will of the government. Enablers in the CF exist to ensure that, when called, the CF is ready.
Widespread fitness facilities exist for CF mebmers to ensure their physical fitness, and is something that should be supported and encouraged and resourced as a erquirement of military readiness.
Playing university basketball, sending biathletes to Europe for training or competitions, or other CISM or CIAU activites do not map well against the CF mandate. Those resoruces can be much better applied to other parts of the defence program.
dapaterson said:
Out of curiosity, what is the true mandate of the Canadian Government? We've been sending athletes to the Olympics for years, and, comparatively speaking, our winning streak is pretty low. Should we instead pass the torch off to Private Industry, or personal financing for those athletes that can't win? (Should note, this is actually sort of happening with the Own the Podium stuff).
People need role models too. Doesn't it foster esprit-de-corps, morale and dedication to the Forces community when CF members see one of their own simply competing in a prestigious competition where entry alone is a feat?
There must be balance between the two positions.
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Bruce Monkhouse said:
“It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required” - Sir Winston Churchill
That being said, from a taxpayer's perspective, I wouldn't want my money paying for a team that is 1-128. RMC has some very physically fit Cadets. So why don't we have a track and field team? Or even a football team! We'd be guaranteed to at least beat U of T! ;D
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