Quebec government tables 'Anastasia's Law' tightening gun controls

[Yrys]

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=dd4ff668-04cb-4294-b9bc-ba4dfbdd30b1&k=59858

QUEBEC (CP) - The Quebec government tabled legislation Friday that imposes tougher controls on the use of
firearms in the province.

Bill 9, dubbed "Anastasia's Law" in honour of the student gunned down last September at Montreal's Dawson College,
prohibits all firearms from educational institutions.

"This bill restricts the possession of all firearms on the grounds and the buildings of educational institutions and child-care
facilities," Quebec Public Security Minister Jacques Dupuis said in the national assembly.

Firearms will likewise be banned from public and school transport.

The legislation would regulate target shooting with restricted and prohibited firearms in shooting clubs and shooting
ranges by introducing a provincial operations permit.

Under the legislation, gun clubs will have to keep a registry of member visits, while members will need a certificate
confirming they handle weapons in a secure manner.

Club operators and firearms instructors will be obliged to inform authorities of any behaviour that endangers individual
or public security.

Psychologists, doctors and other health professionals will also be able to report such behaviour, despite the rules of
confidentiality that normally govern their profession.

"This bill obliges personnel of educational institutions and gun clubs to indicate to police all behaviour by individuals
that could endanger their security or that of others," Dupuis said in introducing the bill.

Last September, gunman Kimveer Gill killed De Sousa, 18, in a shooting rampage at Dawson. Twenty others were injured.

Premier Jean Charest was scheduled to hold a news conference at Dawson College on Friday afternoon to talk about the legislation.

The Coalition for Gun Control welcomed the bill but suggested it is still not enough.

"The coalition also asks the Government of Quebec to continue to pressure the Harper government to maintain and
enforce the national legislation and to ensure that it is supported by adequate resources," the group said in a statement.

 

[Reccesoldier]

"This bill restricts the possession of all firearms on the grounds and the buildings of educational institutions and child-care
facilities," Quebec Public Security Minister Jacques Dupuis said in the national assembly.

Firearms will likewise be banned from public and school transport.

Dear God if we'd only thought of this earlier, poor Anastasia De Suza would still be alive!

 

[Old Sweat]

You're right. It certainly worked at Virginia Tech.

Sacrcasm switch to off position.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

So the cops will have to disarm before going into a school?

(Yes- I'm being deliberately obtuse)

I wasn't aware it currently was legal to take firearms into a school.

Had this law been in place in 1987, surely Marc Lepine would have thought twice about shooting up Ecole Polytechnique...  :

The classic example of a law designed to make a government look good without actually accomplishing anything tangible...

 

[Brad Sallows]

Blessings upon the government of Quebec for making a public commitment to ensuring that all law-abiding citizens in those locations may be safely assumed to be unarmed.  I am certain this knowledge will be useful in future to one or more deranged persons.

 

[mzona]

http://www.assnat.qc.ca/fra/38Legislature1/Projets-loi/Publics/07-f009.htm

8.  Un professionnel visé au deuxième alinéa qui, dans le cadre de l'exercice de sa profession, a un motif raisonnable de croire qu'une personne a un comportement susceptible de compromettre sa sécurité ou celle d'autrui avec une arme à feu est autorisé à signaler ce comportement aux autorités policières en ne leur communiquant que les renseignements nécessaires pour faciliter leur intervention, y compris ceux protégés par le secret professionnel et malgré toute autre disposition relative à l'obligation de confidentialité à laquelle il est tenu, particulièrement en matière de santé et de services sociaux.

Sont autorisés à effectuer un signalement les professionnels suivants :
1° un médecin ;
2° un psychologue ;
3° un conseiller ou une conseillère d'orientation ;
4° une infirmière ou un infirmier ;
5° un travailleur social.

I don't think it's within their jurisdiction. Professional secret is protected by federal legislation. I bet they'll take this article off.

 

[FSTO]

This whole issue about the firearms in Canada is one that deserves a complete rethink by out educators..

My section at CFFSEsquimalt deals with initial and refresher training of sailors with the Sig Sauer, C7, C8, C9, and including the .50 cal Heavy Machine Gun. We find that most of the new members of the Navy have never even touched a gun until basic training. Some of them are so terrified of a weapon that we have to spend time on them to convince them that it won't jump up and bite them on its own.

My suggestion that instead of trying to shield kids from weapons that we should expose the weapons to them. Every school age from let’s say Grade 6 or 7 up should take a weapons safety course. In this course they are taught the safe storage, handling and use of firearms. They wouldn't be taken out to a range to shoot the weapons but they would know how a weapon works and that they should not fear them but respect their power, just like you are taught to respect the power of an automobile. A car is more of a mass murderer tool than the gun has been in Canada.

Now before you tell me that this training will turn kids into gun nuts, what about sex education. Its taught in school and we don't have every kid becoming Porn Stars. 

Education not ignorance is always better for you. The gun issue is another one that screams for something better than just yelling "Ban them!”

 

[Dissident]

I agree with you, but you are unfortunatly missing the point.

Most of the legislation, in my opinion, is already in place to socially engineer people away from firearms. Make firearms so difficult to get and such a hassle to keep, soon only a marginalized minority will own them, allowing firearms to be completly taken away from everyone.

My 2 cents

 

[warspite]

+5 FSTO 

Education is the key, I've been around guns since i was little and if nothing else i have learned that they are not machines for evil, nor are they a toy, they are a tool for a job, that job being to hurl a chunk of metal at a target. People need to realize this. Guns are not co-herrently evil, nor are they to be taken lightly, I remember watching a news report on a school in the lower mainland talking about the prevalence of guns in the school cause people where trying to imitate 50 cent or some other rapper ( I really didn't care who it was). I just shook my head, people need to realize they aren't some fashion accesory....
anyway my rambles done........ ;D

 

[KevinB]

The sick joke is some of this goes back to the old system.

Back "in the day" one had to take ones firearms (restricted firearms) into the local registrar at the local cop shop.  You took it in - talked to the person, and they verifired it was in fact what you where supposed to have bought - and they registered it to you can you took it home (later it sat in "gun jail at the Cop Shop until the new registration form came from the RCMP - because someone decided to interpret the laws to the fact that you had only applied to register it to you and it was not yet yours  : - despite all the paperwork being done)

Sadly the rest of the laws are already on the books -- medical and legal professional are require to divulge information from client/patient or lawyer/client relation if they beleive that the person is intending on hurting someone.
The safety certificate -- well one already does (the inept -- but that's another issue) CFC safety course prior to being given a Possession Acquisition License -- so this is the effect of a double safe person  :.

The criminal code already makes it illegal to bring a firearm to a public gathering (schools etc) - and restricted firearms already (since 1934) can only be shot at ranges.


  In the end its much ado about nothing - other than politicians creating more paperwork to give an ingnorant public a feelgood moment in time.

 

[rz350]

Banned from all places of education...does that apply to say, police college, gun smithing programs, the canadian fire arms safety course, and if you really wanted to take it broad, from Canadian Forces Leadership and Recruit SCHOOL in St.Jean, which happens to be in PQ, does it not?

if so, who is going to learn how to be a policeman, fix guns, use them in a safe manner, and defend the nation?

I'm just being thick on purpose, I'm not really that stupid.

 

[Yrys]

Banned from all places of education...does that apply to say, police college, gun smithing programs, the canadian fire arms safety course, and if you really wanted to take it broad, from Canadian Forces Leadership and Recruit SCHOOL in St.Jean, which happens to be in PQ, does it not?

I'm just being thick on purpose, I'm not really that stupid.

I'm not sure the legislators ain't that thick...

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I agree with you, but you are unfortunatly missing the point.

Most of the legislation, in my opinion, is already in place to socially engineer people away from firearms. Make firearms so difficult to get and such a hassle to keep, soon only a marginalized minority will own them, allowing firearms to be completly taken away from everyone.

My 2 cents

Bingo, give this man a cookie for the correct answer.