Pte Allen on Tactics

[pte.allen]

do you keep in mind of suicide bombers? how would you ever know that "innocent" civilian walking in the fields, distance closing, would have a bomb on their bodies? or a little girl the age of 7 blowing her self up? before you attempt these scenarios, think about what could happen or may happen and not think: it's a simple patrol, attribution to the war in Iraq, that's what every other soldiers done. Keep in mind what could happen. Murphys law: anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. So keep an open mind.


:bullette. Allen

 

[aesop081]

do you keep in mind of suicide bombers? how would you ever know that "innocent" civilian walking in the fields, distance closing, would have a bomb on their bodies? or a little girl the age of 7 blowing her self up? before you attempt these scenarios, think about what could happen or may happen and not think: it's a simple patrol, attribution to the war in Iraq, that's what every other soldiers done. Keep in mind what could happen. Murphys law: anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. So keep an open mind.


:bullette. Allen

Hummm........what ?

 

[Infanteer]

Hummm........what ?

+1

???

 

[xena]

do you keep in mind of suicide bombers? how would you ever know that "innocent" civilian walking in the fields, distance closing, would have a bomb on their bodies? or a little girl the age of 7 blowing her self up? before you attempt these scenarios, think about what could happen or may happen and not think: it's a simple patrol, attribution to the war in Iraq, that's what every other soldiers done. Keep in mind what could happen. Murphys law: anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. So keep an open mind.


:bullette. Allen

???
Send key setting.  Over. ???

 

[pte.allen]

whats so confusing about what I said? im 17 come on, I cant be that hard to understand :-\

 

[aesop081]

whats so confusing about what I said? im 17 come on, I cant be that hard to understand :-\

You would think so but yet, here we are.


Not only is what you posted not making any sense but i hardly think you know what you are talking about.

 

[Michael OLeary]

do you keep in mind of suicide bombers? how would you ever know that "innocent" civilian walking in the fields, distance closing, would have a bomb on their bodies? or a little girl the age of 7 blowing her self up? before you attempt these scenarios, think about what could happen or may happen and not think: it's a simple patrol, attribution to the war in Iraq, that's what every other soldiers done. Keep in mind what could happen. Murphys law: anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. So keep an open mind.


:bullette. Allen

Wow, in less than 100 words you've cancelled out the collected wisdom of over 200 preceding posts.

Welcome to Milnet.ca, start reading.

 

[McG]

do you keep in mind of suicide bombers? how would you ever know that "innocent" civilian walking in the fields, distance closing, would have a bomb on their bodies? or a little girl the age of 7 blowing her self up? before you attempt these scenarios, think about what could happen or may happen and not think: it's a simple patrol, attribution to the war in Iraq, that's what every other soldiers done. Keep in mind what could happen. Murphys law: anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. So keep an open mind.

What is your point and who are you addressing?

whats so confusing about what I said

Your entire post does not seemed to be anchored into the previous discussion, it fails to make any conclusions/recommendations, and generally seems irrelevant.

im 17 come on

Is this an excuse?

I cant be that hard to understand

You are.  This might help:


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[pte.allen]

I do know what Im talking about because my brother is a CF-18 fighter pilot and I am an avid news watcher. and A Hasty Pee.. Hastings and Prince Edward Regiment if you all dont know what it is. Sorry If I seemed confusing..My intent was different then what it seemed to be.

      -Pte. Allen-

 

[Franko]

I do know what Im talking about because my brother is a CF-18 fighter pilot and I am an avid news watcher. and A Hasty Pee.. Hastings and Prince Edward Regiment if you all dont know what it is. Sorry If I seemed confusing..My intent was different then what it seemed to be.

      -Pte. Allen-

pte.allen,

We don't care what your brother does, that doesn't add to whatever you meant in this statement:

do you keep in mind of suicide bombers? how would you ever know that "innocent" civilian walking in the fields, distance closing, would have a bomb on their bodies? or a little girl the age of 7 blowing her self up? before you attempt these scenarios, think about what could happen or may happen and not think: it's a simple patrol, attribution to the war in Iraq, that's what every other soldiers done. Keep in mind what could happen. Murphys law: anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. So keep an open mind.


:bullette. Allen

The fact is you are a very youngPte in the reserves and have not served over seas making bold statements with nothing to back them up with.

Your scenario plays out everyday in Afghanistan and I think the troops know what to do and do not require any of your "expertise" on tactics.

I'm suggesting that you take the advice given to you here:

http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/23394/post-648337.html#msg648337

Time to read Pte. Allen.

The Army.ca staff

 

[Loachman]

I'll try and put this into some perspective for you, Pte Allen.

Would you presume to wander into the Hasty P (yes, I know what that is, and several past and present members thereof) Officers' Mess and/or Warrant Officers' and Sergeants' Mess and start lecturing their denizens on tactics?

That, essentially, is what you have just done. While we dispense with rank here, this site is still run as a military environment.

You would do far better to take the advice given, stay on listening silence for a while, and absorb the information, knowledge, and wisdom found in this forum. Feel free to ask questions if there's something that you do not understand - after first, of course, exhausting the Search Function. You will benefit from that greatly and, over time, will find that you have something useful to contribute - and we will glad for it. After a while, too, you'll read posts from other young know-it-alls, and understand what this is like for us.

We are not unsympathetic. We were all seventeen once, but most of us have been to a few places and done a few things since then. You are entirely welcome here, and will be accepted totally, so long as you stay within your lanes.

 

[X-mo-1979]

I'll try and put this into some perspective for you, Pte Allen.

Would you presume to wander into the Hasty P (yes, I know what that is, and several past and present members thereof) Officers' Mess and/or Warrant Officers' and Sergeants' Mess and start lecturing their denizens on tactics?

That, essentially, is what you have just done. While we dispense with rank here, this site is still run as a military environment.

I'll disagree with that.No rank here.Everyone can offer their point of view IF it makes sense.And be prepared to be stamped on if it doesn't (I have/will).


However...My cousin is a Engineer SSM.Guess what?I dont have a freaking clue how to build a bridge.
Your brother is a pilot.And somehow you are the SME on everything from suicide bombings to running (He did get 90% in RMC gym class).

And whats with all your posts saying "keep an opened mind"?
Is English maybe your second language?(serious question)
I also tend to repeat myself in french due to my vocabulary not being sufficient.

 

[Loachman]

I'll disagree with that.No rank here.

That's what I said - "we dispense with rank here" or, in other words, we don't use rank here.

 

[George Wallace]

I'll disagree with that.No rank here.Everyone can offer their point of view IF it makes sense.And be prepared to be stamped on if it doesn't (I have/will).


However...My cousin is a Engineer SSM.Guess what?I dont have a freaking clue how to build a bridge.
Your brother is a pilot.And somehow you are the SME on everything from suicide bombings to running (He did get 90% in RMC gym class).

And whats with all your posts saying "keep an opened mind"?
Is English maybe your second language?(serious question)
I also tend to repeat myself in french due to my vocabulary not being sufficient.

I am beginning to think this topic has the wrong title.  Perhaps we should rename it to "army.ca Incoherent, Confused and Disjointed Thoughts"  or just "ICDT".

 

[Franko]

Back on topic troops.....

I'll disagree with that.No rank here.Everyone can offer their point of view IF it makes sense.

+ 1.

Pte Allen, that's the best advice you'll get from any member here.

We've seen all ranks come on here and make a fool of themselves and, on the other hand, civilians (with no military experience) come here and make great contributions to the site.

Regards

 

[1feral1]

it's a simple patrol.
:bullette. Allen

Holy shyte, over!

Almost 'fashed back', grabbing my F88 carbine,  reaching for my salt caked body armour and stinky kevlar skid-lid, and running to the nearest strong point! Its 0530 here, and I need a chat with Jack D! Self says ' relax, its been almost 9 months to the day since you left Iraq'. Thanks for reminding me, Self! 

The first post in this thread, and others from the originator, makes no sense whatsoever, and there is no such thing as a simple patrol, so she's right - eek!

An avid newsreader, and a brother who is a pilot. Sleep well tonight Canada, our borders are secure, and we are finally safe from the threat from that army of suicide bombers. What a relief.

And no, she is not a relative of mine, nor a distanct one at that  ;D .

Looks like B.H. Lidell-Hart has finally got some  :warstory: serious  :warstory: competition.


Cheers from the tropics, and welcome to army.ca PTE Allen!


Wes

 

[RHFC_piper]

Why is this nonsensical, gibberish laden thread a "sticky"?  ???  I always assumed only the most useful, poignant, or relevant topics were tacked on to the top of their respective sections... Well, I suppose this, if nothing else, does reflect true Radio Chatter; just a collection of words fired into oblivion which have, coincidently formed some semblance of a statement... but it's still hard to make out.


Anyway, Pte. Allen... perhaps when you meet your first suicide bomber, or conduct your first patrol in a foreign land with people who actually want to kill you, your opinions will be accepted a little more here... until this time, you're really just throwing out hearsay and second hand information, which is really no better than the noises emanating from your anus.  And using news media as your source for information is about the same as using gossip; there may be a shred of truth in what you learn... but only a shred, and it has be interpreted in the best way to sell papers, which for the most part, is the worst way to gain knowledge of actual events.
Besides that, as a reserve member who has not deployed, there is quite a bit that you don't know about what is going on over there in the way of tactics and procedure during operational patrols... hell, I've been out of theater a little over a year, and what I know is old doctrine by the current deployments standards. This is how dynamic the situation is.


But I digress... Why is this a "sticky" thread anyway?

 

[Franko]

But I digress... Why is this a "sticky" thread anyway?

Probably because the thread that it spawned and was split from was sticky.       

Sorted out, thanks for brining it to our attention.

The Army.ca Staff

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I think the point has been made.

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