Ontario Election: New riding and choices.

[observor 69]

More info on this story from the CBC:

Doug Ford calls allegations in sister-in-law's lawsuit 'false and without merit'

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-calls-allegations-in-sister-in-law-s-lawsuit-false-and-without-merit-1.4692165

 

[Fishbone Jones]

So, she's made accusations, formed a media circus to disrupt his election plans and nothing has been proven.

Ì have a feeling some one approached her and offered to pay the legal bills and pin money to get her to launch. With the way Wynne has been nonstop about it, it wouldn't surprise me if it was the grits. All speculation though. The party lawyers usually sift through everything you're involved in, including this. They didnt think it was big enough to bother with. It's likely a desperation attempt by his opposition.

 

[Remius]

So, she's made accusations, formed a media circus to disrupt his election plans and nothing has been proven.

Ì have a feeling some one approached her and offered to pay the legal bills and pin money to get her to launch. With the way Wynne has been nonstop about it, it wouldn't surprise me if it was the grits. All speculation though. The party lawyers usually sift through everything you're involved in, including this. They didnt think it was big enough to bother with. It's likely a desperation attempt by his opposition.

I doubt it.  Why concede the race and then reveal this?

This just seems more of a personal thing.  according to Ford, he was approached and was threatened that this would go public unless he settled.  It's no secret that the Ford Family is a bit of a mess so none of this is surprising.

I'm not sure they really like each other...

https://torontolife.com/city/toronto-politics/doug-ford-polack/

 

[mariomike]

When Doug ran for mayor, he pointed to his success as a businessman,
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/doug-ford-at-deco/article21067584/

 

[ModlrMike]

... he was approached and was threatened that this would go public unless he settled. 

Sounds sort of extortionist if you ask me.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I get that Ford may not be popular to some. However, only those in his riding are really the only ones voting for him......òr not.

Ì have trouble with those that still want to vote grit after what has taken place over the last 15 years.

Ì really have trouble believing that the dippers, who have already decided to stay the current course and accelerate its end game. Sanctuary province should have been enough to scare the bejesus out of sane working taxpayers. Never mind the rest of her platform and the bevy of useless crackpots and deranged candidates. Can anyone put forward a reason to stick with the socialists (either the grits or.dippers)?

 

[jollyjacktar]

I doubt it.  Why concede the race and then reveal this?

This just seems more of a personal thing.  according to Ford, he was approached and was threatened that this would go public unless he settled.  It's no secret that the Ford Family is a bit of a mess so none of this is surprising.

I'm not sure they really like each other..

You can rest assured they sure as hell aren't going to after this settles down.  Especially if it torpedoes his chances

 

[blacktriangle]

I live in a liberal/socialist wasteland (Ottawa Centre) filled with underemployed hipsters and smug "professionals".

Excited to vote I am   ;D

 

[George Wallace]

I live in a liberal/socialist wasteland (Ottawa Centre) filled with underemployed hipsters and smug "professionals".

Excited to vote I am   ;D

:rofl:

 

[Halifax Tar]

I get that Ford may not be popular to some. However, only those in his riding are really the only ones voting for him......òr not.

Ì have trouble with those that still want to vote grit after what has taken place over the last 15 years.

Ì really have trouble believing that the dippers, who have already decided to stay the current course and accelerate its end game. Sanctuary province should have been enough to scare the bejesus out of sane working taxpayers. Never mind the rest of her platform and the bevy of useless crackpots and deranged candidates. Can anyone put forward a reason to stick with the socialists (either the grits or.dippers)?

George I agree with you.  But you and I both know most of the population has their head in the sand and all parties have a certain percentage that will always vote for that party no matter what is on the platform.

As an Ontario Ex Pat, who leans conservative, I would be really torn on who to cast my vote for.

 

[observor 69]

This article in the Toronto Star lays out there advice for the Ontario voter:

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2018/06/01/ontario-voters-should-back-ndp-to-stop-doug-ford.html


"All three parties (including the PCs) plan to keep running deficits for the next few years. The next government needs to pay greater attention to getting the province’s finances in order; we can’t assume the relatively good economic times will continue indefinitely. (It was, as we’ve written before, a mistake for the Liberals to return to deficit financing in their last budget after struggling so hard to balance the books.)

What’s at stake in Thursday’s election is the future of the province. That’s more important than any strictly partisan choice and progressive voters should think beyond their loyalties to a particular party. They shouldn’t risk giving Doug Ford the chance to drag this province backwards, and in the great majority of ridings that means supporting the New Democrat.

Ontarians are obviously looking for change: the polls are clear on that. But the same polls show the majority of people in this province are fundamentally progressive.

They want, and deserve, a government committed to openness, inclusivity and making sure our prosperity is more widely shared. On June 7 voters should support candidates who will uphold those values."

 

[PuckChaser]

Lays out advice for the Ontario voter written by the NDP PR team...

 

[mariomike]

I voted Ford Nation in 2010. After fours years of chaos, voted against them in 2014. Will vote FN again in 2018.

Because everyone deserves a fresh start now and then.

Interesting editorial in today's Globe.

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For Ontario voters, leadership and vision are not on offer
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-globe-editorial-for-ontario-voters-leadership-and-vision-are-not-on/

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Hard times for Renata and the kids? Their home is for sale.

That place would be pretty legendary to own!

 

[dapaterson]

With forecasts as low as two surviving Liberals in the provincial legislature, Yasir Naqvi may become Jean Charest to Kathleen Wynne's Elsie Wayne...

 

[mariomike]

There are two estates here: Doug Snr's and Rob's.

Thank-you for your insight, FJAG.

During the 2010-2014 era in Toronto politics, while Rob was alive, there was an ongoing discussion, which was: "How well did Doug run Deco?

Nobody had access to Deco's records, because it's a privately owned company.

It was common knowledge that Doug Sr. had run the company well. He legitimately made himself rich. And before he passed in 2006, had established a good number of longstanding business relationships with solid, long-term customers which essentially ensured the company's future - so long as nobody dramatically screwed it up.

If Doug wants to prove Renata wrong, and prove to voters he is a good businessman, could he not simply release Deco's financial statements?

 

[Cloud Cover]

That will happen during the 'discovery' process, not the election process. Even if Ford is the president of the company, he has legal obligations to protect any other co-owners (if any) or others that he may have  duty to. For example, his private lenders and creditors may have non-disclosure terms in lending agreements with contractual rights to obtain interlocutor relief to protect their interests. So, it's not just about what Doug may want to prove, but the method and process by which he does so.

 

[mariomike]

During Doug's unsuccessful campaign for mayor in 2014, he said that his experience as president of Deco ( which he inherited from his father in 2006 ) qualified him to manage city money.

All Toronto voters knew about Deco was what we read in the papers at the time,
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/doug-ford-at-deco/article21067584/

 

[Cdn Blackshirt]

I remain stupified by the Ontario PC Party's ability to nominate the worst possible candidates given the choices available....

I will be voting PC because my fear of Doug Ford's combination of obnoxiousness and stupidity is only slightly lower than my fear of Andrea's candidates' "crazy".

For next election, I may actually join the 'Consensus' party and assist with their campaign - they were just a little late to get rolling this time around to have much of an impact.


M.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

I truly feel sorry for Ontarians today, trying to decide who to vote for.

Good Luck.

 

[observor 69]

Just finished voting.    Get out and vote Ontario!!