Nanaimo Mounties end hunt for throat-slasher

[armyvern]

With all respect (and I do mean a lot of respect) to Vern, I'm frankly surprised this question is even being asked in this forum of 'people who know better'.

If the young reservist is either non-white, has gender issues, belongs to a religion other than Christianity, is a drug user, has mental issues or is a francophone -then sure. Hate crime is a possibility.
But simply because he's a member of the CF...?? Have we forgotten who started all this "hate crime" nonsense in the first place ? It sure wasn't anyone who has any respect or empathy for the CF.

Maybe I'm way off base here, but look at the decisions coming out of the HRCs. Who wins and who doesn't stand a chance.

Personally, I think the best we can hope for is that the slasher resists arrest and receives a proper tune-up by the RCMP.
(unless, of course, he's a member of any of the above-mentioned special interest groups -in which case we'd be looking at a hate crime by the RCMP...)

On the other hand, I rather suspect that the agressor in this situation is from the very segment of the population who sides with and votes (obviously, some are not the voting type, but just bitch about the results or protest them) for special treatment of some Canadian citizens.

I'm all well and good with throwing their own hard-fought-for upped-charges back over to left field and onto their own kind every once in a while. A case of be careful what you wish for, you may just get it. 

 

[Bass ackwards]

I'm all well and good with throwing their own hard-fought-for upped-charges back over to left field and onto their own kind every once in a while. A case of be careful what you wish for, you may just get it. 

And I'd love to see it too.

Just like I'd love to see Paul Bernardo and that a$$hole in Woodstock that raped and murdered that little girl with a hammer, executed.

And I'd love to see the RCAF get their new SAR birds and X-wing fighters and anything else they need. Ditto for the RCN and the Army.

And I'd love to see me meet and marry the super-hot green-eyed redhead of my dreams.

Point is - none of this is going to happen.

So let's just hope that the little arsehole screws up and Her Majesty's Cowboys get the opportunity to play a little catch-up on behalf of the CF.

That's all I'm sayin' 

 

[medicineman]

So let's just hope that the little arsehole screws up and Her Majesty's Cowboys get the opportunity to play a little catch-up on behalf of the CF.

That's all I'm sayin' 

Maybe the Angels will get him...

MM

 

[Melbatoast]

On the other hand, I rather suspect that the agressor in this situation is from the very segment of the population who sides with and votes (obviously, some are not the voting type, but just ***** about the results or protest them) for special treatment of some Canadian citizens.

I'm all well and good with throwing their own hard-fought-for upped-charges back over to left field and onto their own kind every once in a while. A case of be careful what you wish for, you may just get it. 

You've quite obviously never been to Nanaimo.  The people who vote live in the north end with their mcmansions, big box stores, and pave-it-all attitude.  Oh, and massive grow ops.  Guess who they vote for?

Where the kid got slashed, the south end, the people are way too busy committing property crime to score something to fence for the next rock or hit of meth to give a damn about who their MP is.  It is a rough area, and has been forever.  I've experienced some pretty tough neighborhoods in this country and south Nanaimo is probably top 3.  Pretty fun leap of logic to sincerely believe that equal-rights peaceniks AND ultraviolent nihilist crackheads are filthy socialists.

Sorry to ruin your fantasy.

On topic, I'd be mildly surprised if he gets caught at all - you wanna disappear for a while, the underside of the west coast is a pretty great place to do it.

 

[armyvern]

You've quite obviously never been to Nanaimo.  The people who vote live in the north end with their mcmansions, big box stores, and pave-it-all attitude.  Oh, and massive grow ops.  Guess who they vote for?

Where the kid got slashed, the south end, the people are way too busy committing property crime to score something to fence for the next rock or hit of meth to give a damn about who their MP is.  It is a rough area, and has been forever.  I've experienced some pretty tough neighborhoods in this country and south Nanaimo is probably top 3.  Pretty fun leap of logic to sincerely believe that equal-rights peaceniks AND ultraviolent nihilist crackheads are filthy socialists.

Sorry to ruin your fantasy.

On topic, I'd be mildly surprised if he gets caught at all - you wanna disappear for a while, the underside of the west coast is a pretty great place to do it.

Wow. Apparently, you missed this part of my post:

(obviously, some are not the voting type, but just ***** about the results or protest them)

of which I am quite certain this assailant probably fits well into. Not my fantasy; just reality.

None of it really matters anyway - Bass Ackwards got my eye colour wrong so I can no longer Occupy his thoughts. 

 

[GeorgeD]

I'm out of my lane here, but would it be even possible to get every reservist or CF member for that matter in a martial art which ever it may be? I know a number of members who go to a particular martial arts place in Toronto, and they are good but in a situation where someone strikes with out warning would it be of any help? And would it be of use if a member was given training in a martial arts once a year or once every few years with little refresher in the mean time?


I would think and just to reiterate this is just my view, it would be more effective for all of us to be a little more aware of our surroundings and just make an example of the person who committed this crime. Introducing some form of martial arts at its basic level would be great, if we as an institution were able to gain the skill of a martial art, and then maintain this knowledge and skills through continuous training it would be of use, but doing a few days or even a week long course once does not guarantee that the person would be able to defend themselves effectively.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Way back in the 70s/early 80s when everyone on uniform was regarded with general dislike we travelled in pairs, on the bus or whatever, and arranged for pickups and drop offs for most people who felt they needed it. Never had a problem beyond some verbal posturing from the usual low lifes.  It shouldn't be too hard to coordinate a simjlar, especially for new folks.

( Oh, and I carried a large blackthorn cane too, just in case.)  ;D

 

[FormerHorseGuard]

It is sad to hear  that  a person was attacked for no other reason than having a uniform serving his or her country.
Arming or training a person to defend themselves is not the answer.  All sorts of people with training  and weapons or those who have body guards get attacked or killed. If the person wants to harm another person bad enough they  will risk it all and usually do the damage before any  training kicks in.

I hope they  catch and punish the person who did this crime

 

[VIChris]

Just a thought on this too. It is possible the attacker doesn't have a permanent hate on for us in general, or the Nanaimo Mo in particular. That part of town is rife with drug abusers. The attacker may have just been out of his mind on goofballs, and that is what set him over the edge. I don't think it's time for all hands to man the panic stations just yet.

 

[armyvern]

Just a thought on this too. It is possible the attacker doesn't have a permanent hate on for us in general, or the Nanaimo Mo in particular. That part of town is rife with drug abusers. The attacker may have just been out of his mind on goofballs, and that is what set him over the edge. I don't think it's time for all hands to man the panic stations just yet.

Not based upon the RCMP statement on the attack that was posted here:
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/104901/post-1122713.html#msg1122713

"Based on information available, we have reason to believe the victim was assaulted because of his involvement with the Canadian Forces", said Superintendent Norm McPhail, Officer in Charge of the Nanaimo RCMP Detachment. "When a member of our military while in uniform is randomly attacked, it is extremely disconcerting. Our Serious Crime Unit has taken over the investigation and are actively pursuing all leads", said McPhail.

Off his rocker, stoned out of his mind or not, the attack (even if random) ccured precisely because of the member's CF status.

 

[VIChris]

Yeah, I read that too. I'm not saying the guy doesn't have some sort of wiring problem, but that part of town isn't known for political activists of any sort. He's probably not a regular poppy purchaser, but I'm still skeptical that it's going to be a recurring problem. Suggesting we need to be armed, or regularly trained in street level self defense or even changing to civvies before heading home from work all seem a bit extreme at this point.

 

[Fiera]

CF Members in uniform is not something you regularly see in Nanaimo as it is; at least you didn't when I lived and worked near the base and university. I would think that would make it hard to judge the potential for recurrence in the area versus a 1 off from a crack head going ape over a uniform.

Not to say that self defense would be a waste of time to learn and maintain. You don't have to be in uniform in Harewood, or University Heights as its now called, to find yourself in a situation where you need either a fast foot or fist. And the same can be said for downtown Victoria as we get the nut jobs with knife fetishes from East Van shipped in by the busload every few weeks.

 

[krustyrl]

Agreed, my son does Foot Patrol Security in downtown Victoria and when the bars close, what a less than desirable place sometimes. 

 

[Ignatius J. Reilly]

I sincerely hope the perpetrator of this vile crime is apprehended and punished to the furthest extent of the law.

 

[mikeninercharlie]

The RCMP are dropping their investigation as the so-called victim slashed his own neck/throat, no news link yet.

 

[Cui]

Where did you hear that from?

 

[McG]

Let's see something come out officially before making any conclusions.

 

[brihard]

Let's see something come out officially before making any conclusions.

Agreed. I'm gonna reserve judgement to 'WTF?' at this point.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

The RCMP are dropping their investigation as the so-called victim slashed his own neck/throat, no news link yet. Perhaps, his actions will be recognized as being incompatible with military service, and he'll be shown the door. Sad ain't it...

PM inbound

 

[mikeninercharlie]

http://www.globaltvbc.com/vancouver+island+army+reservist+who+alleged+knife+attack+was+lying+police/6442600315/story.html