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Islamic Terrorism in the West ( Mega thread)

Given that the transit system is public, it makes no sense at all to allow ads that upset members of the public. If anything within the system makes users uncomfortable – the temperature, the noise or the ads on the walls – the TTC should do everything it can to fix the problem if it's not too expensive a proposition.

Anything?  So if users are uncomfortable with waiting for a driver to take a bathroom break, like this past week, perhaps the TTC should remove that privilege?

How is this any different from a Christian church putting up a poster saying "Christ died for your sins."??? Is that saying that any other religions not based on Christ are illegitimate?

 
RDJP said:
How is this any different from a Christian church putting up a poster saying "Christ died for your sins."??? Is that saying that any other religions not based on Christ are illegitimate?

The difference is that if you put up something that espouses Christianity, someone will complain vociferously and something will be done. But we are a tolerant nation, right?
 
Jim Seggie said:
Maybe we should put a billboard up that states " There is no true god but Thor!" or Zeus, or whatever god you want to make up.


But for goodness sake don't put one up that espouses Christianity.....or is it just me that thinks this way?

Done  >:D
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Love it! I, by the way, am a Jedi.

I just haven't been issued my light saber yet,  something about procurement....
 
Danjanou said:

Oh, they all got jobs with the NFL on the offensive line, and those that didn't cut it went to the WWF......
 
Jim Seggie said:
Love it! I, by the way, am a Jedi.

I just haven't been issued my light saber yet,  something about procurement....

A true Jedi makes his own light sabre.
 
Jim,

If your a jedi, does that make Joe Jasper yoda? He was certainly small enough for it.
 
ArmyRick said:
Jim,

If your a jedi, does that make Joe Jasper yoda? He was certainly small enough for it.

No. A good Jedi Joe is.....but Yoda not he is.

Any more of those funny videos coming out?
 
The really frightening part about this story is how fast this person "flipped" from normal kid into Jihadi. Obviously there is much more to the story, it would be very interesting to discover where he actually came into contact with radical Islam, and what methods are being used to indoctrinate people into this cult:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/08/20/dagestan/

The Canadian who converted to jihad: Boxer turned militant killed in Dagestan
Stewart Bell | Aug 20, 2012 9:33 PM ET | Last Updated: Aug 21, 2012 11:40 AM ET
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In the video he shot inside his hut in the mountains of Dagestan last winter, William Plotnikov narrated as he panned from the black flag of jihad to three bearded rebels and their assault rifles.

Then he turned the camera on himself.

“I ask Allah that the next season he’ll give us the opportunity to kill as many kafirs [non-believers] as we can, just to shred them to pieces,” William said. “Allah is almighty.”

Watching the clip on the computer in his apartment north of Toronto last week, Vitaly Plotnikov looked both heartbroken and perplexed. It was hard for him to accept that this was his son.

“It’s just like a different person to me,” he said.

Russian security forces announced last month that they had killed William, a 23-year-old Canadian, during a gun battle in Dagestan. Since then, the Canadian government has been trying to verify the Russians’ account.

But in an interview with the National Post, Mr. Plotnikov confirmed William’s death and spoke for the first time about his son’s rapid transformation from Toronto teenager and champion boxer to Muslim convert and jihadist fighter.

What seemed to amaze Mr. Plotnikov most was how fast it all happened. His son only became interested in Islam in 2009, he said. Within a year, he had left Canada and by July he was dead. He had gone from convert to martyr in less than three years.

He is not the first radicalized Canadian to die under such circumstances, but he is believed to be the first Canadian convert to die fighting in the name of jihad— all the others having been born into their faith. His father said William became so radicalized he did not even consider the other Muslims he met to be true Muslims. He claimed that Canada and the U.S. were a source of evil for Muslims.

“How can the mind of a person be changed in such a short period of time?” Mr. Plotnikov asked inside the York Region apartment where he keeps William’s boxing medals in a copper trophy on a shelf.

Before moving to Canada, the family lived in Western Siberia, where Mr. Plotnikov worked for an oil company. An athlete himself, he introduced his son to boxing at age nine, and William went on to twice win the Russian youth championships.

After losing his oil company job, Mr. Plotnikov found work at a bank but he wanted more than Russia had to offer. He and his wife also wanted to make sure William got a good education, and they were concerned about the gangs that attracted some former Russian athletes, so they decided to fulfill a lifelong dream of emigrating to the West.

Mr. Plotnikov immediately felt at home in Toronto. Soon after arriving, he got a job stocking shelves at a Highland Farms supermarket on Dufferin Street. “I came as though I was born here,” he said, speaking through a Russian translator.

The move was more difficult for William. He was 15 and had left his friends. He could not understand why the boys at his new high school wore baggy pants and piercings, and he was turned off by the heavy drinking of the Russian expats he met.

Boris Gitman saw athletic potential in the lanky teen who turned up at his boxing club in Thornhill. “I was impressed. His coach in Russia did a good job,” said Mr. Gitman, who coaches at the European Boxing School.

Tall and skinny, William needed to work on his strength and endurance. “He was not physically strong but he was very, very talented.… Very smart,” Mr. Gitman added. “In boxing, it’s very important to be smart. He understood about boxing a lot and I just knew he needed a couple of years. From my experience I thought he would be a good Olympian.”

The coach dedicated himself to William and came to respect his parents. “I know that his father used to work hard, very hard. He did everything possible just to support his family,” Mr. Gitman said. “A very nice man.”

William began to win fights in Ontario. He won a silver medal at the 2006 Brampton Cup, and followed that by winning a club bout at Exhibition Place. He won another silver at the 2007 provincial championships in Windsor.

But by the time the Plotnikovs became Canadian citizens in 2008, William was drifting away from boxing. He tried Jujitsu, Aikido and Thai boxing. Mr. Gitman said the young athlete was struggling to adjust to Canada.

“Two of my sons came here almost at the same age and I know how difficult it was for them because they lost a lot of friends over there,” he said. “All their life was in Russia and, especially William, he had a good life over there.

“He came here and he sees that his parents are working somewhere, not a good position maybe. And like any kid he has some difficulties — language difficulties, to study at school, different culture, different everything.”

After graduating from high school, William enrolled in the international travel and tourism program at Toronto’s Seneca College. He also began asking life’s Big Questions. He reflected in his diary about human existence. He read the Bible, the Torah and the Koran.

Curious about why Muslims prayed five times a day, he decided to visit a Toronto mosque. “So he went to the mosque to clear that up and he just got caught up with a mullah who had very radical views,” his father said, although he does not know which mosque or cleric. “Islam on its own, it’s not a bad religion,” he added. “But like in any other case, the extremists are not always good.”

Before long, William was praying five times daily and fasting for Ramadan. He stopped shaving and eliminated pork from his diet. He became withdrawn and isolated from friends and family. “It wasn’t extremism but first of all his behaviour changed. He practically stopped communicating with us,” Mr. Plotnikov said.

His father tried talking to him.

“We’re Christians,” he said, but William countered that his mother’s family were ethnic Tatars, who had a tradition of Islam. His father explained that William had been baptized in a church. “You didn’t ask me, did you?” William responded.

Early in September 2010, Mr. Plotnikov and his wife returned from a Florida vacation and found a note on the table. It was from William. He said he was sorry and that he had gone to France for Ramadan.

“He just took $3,500 from the bank and left with it, and we ended up paying the debt for him,” Mr. Plotnikov said. “We waited for a week, two, one month, two months. Then we found out that he’s in Moscow.”

The family got word that William was staying there with a friend from Toronto who had grown alarmed by William’s hardening beliefs. “William started expressing his radical views, that basically from here he was already a ready-to-go, prepped fighter,” the father said. “He only was looking for a chance to get inside, into mujahed [jihadist] forces.”

From Moscow, William travelled by train to Dagestan. Sixteen hundred kilometres south of Moscow, Dagestan is a republic in the North Caucasus region of Russia. It shares a border with Chechnya, a notorious magnet for Islamist militants in the 1990s.

After Russia brutally crushed the Chechen insurgency, some rebels crossed into Dagestan, spreading jihadist ideology and calling for “holy war” — although the region has long practiced the moderate Sufi school of Islam.

Jihadist groups such as Shariat Jamaat formed to implement Islamic law throughout the North Caucasus, and began committing almost daily attacks on police and security forces, as well as government officials and moderate clerics. In March 2010, two suicide bombers from Dagestan attacked the Moscow metro during rush hour, killing 40.

Russia’s crackdown in response to the insurgency has been blamed for further inflaming the conflict. In its 2011 World Report, Human Rights Watch accused law enforcement and security agencies of torture, disappearances and extrajudicial killings.

The Dagestan conflict is driven mostly by local issues ranging from corruption and unemployment to the divide between traditional Sufi Islam and intolerant Salafi Islam. But it has drawn a handful of outsiders.

Probably the best known was Alexander Tikhomirov, alias “Said Buryatsky,” a Russian volunteer who was responsible for a 2009 train bombing that killed 26 and other attacks until his death in 2010.

“He converted and ended up becoming one of the most charismatic insurgents around, and he used a lot of audio lectures and the Internet to rally a following, especially among young people,” said Sabine Freizer, a North Caucasus analyst at the International Crisis Group. “He was really seen as a kind of white hero of the insurgency amongst young fighters.”

So when William arrived in Dagestan, there was already a precedent of converts fighting for the rebel forces. William lived in a village of about 3,000, called Utamysh, not far from Dagestan’s capital, Makhachkala, his father said.

Concerned after hearing about the radicalism William had expressed in Moscow, his father called the Russian Interior Ministry. He hoped the Russian authorities would stop William and explain the consequences of his actions. The Russians subsequently raided the house where William was staying and told him to go home. He returned to Moscow, but soon made his way back to Dagestan.

William did not communicate with his family at all during this time. But photos Mr. Plotnikov received from a local newspaper following his son’s death made clear what the Canadian was up to. They showed William standing in the leaf-carpeted mountains, posing guerrilla-style with other armed men.

He wore an olive windbreaker with a camouflage ammunition belt over top. He had one hand in his pocket and held an assault rifle in the air with the other. In another photo, he sat in the dark reading a pocket Koran with a headlamp.

Although it is unknown what, if any, attacks William took part in, during the months he spent in their company, the rebels killed dozens of police officers and soldiers in bomb and shooting attacks. In May, two suicide bombings, 15 minutes apart at a police roadblock, killed a dozen people in the capital.

“It’s not only that they were reading the Koran in the forest, they were attacking the forces, the troops, the military,” said Mr. Plotnikov, 58, who works for a Toronto-area produce company. “I have the movie.”

In the video file, also given to the family after William’s death, the young Canadian offered a brief glimpse of rebel life, showing food cooking on a wood stove and a man dressed in camouflage joking about the merits of his assault rifle.

“What do you do?” William asked a man sitting on a bunk (according to Mr. Plotnikov, that man was a Turkish national who fought in Chechnya and Afghanistan and, like the others, is now dead.)

“Terrorism,” he replied. “I kill kafirs.”

William then put the camera down and sat next to him.

“So this is the way we live and suffer,” William said. His hair was trimmed short and he wore a sleeveless black Adidas shirt that showed how gaunt he had become since leaving Canada.

“We have food to cook and eat, thanks to Allah. And also have brothers and try to do as much as we can for Allah. Kafirs, you’re not going to get what you expect. Allah is with us. He protects us. You don’t have a protector.

“We will kill you. We’re going to build plans against you. But no matter how many plans you make, nothing is going to succeed because whatever He described in His book is the truth. Allah is the truth,” he said. “All of you others are waste, garbage.”

When the video finished playing on his computer, Mr. Plotnikov opened an old photo of William wearing his athletic training clothes, looking like just another Canadian youth. “See and compare the way he was,” he said. “You see this is the way he became. It’s like two different things, the sky and the ground.”

Before midnight on Friday July 13, Russian troops ambushed a group of gunmen in the forests near Utamysh. The Russians had “received information about the possible movements” of insurgents, according to a Russian government news release.

During the ensuing firefight, several security personnel were wounded and one was killed. By morning, seven militants were dead, including two local faction leaders. Islam Magomedov, alias Hamster, headed the Sergokala jihadist group and had been wanted since 2010 for various attacks.

Also killed was Arsen Magomedov, who headed a jihadist group in nearby Izberbash and “was involved in numerous murders of law enforcement officers and a number of IED explosions on the railway.”

The other dead were named as Isa Dalgatov, Shamil Akhmedov, Amin Ibiyev, Magomedsaid Mamtov and William Plotnikov. The jihadist website Kavkaz called William a martyr. “May Allah reward all the brothers.”

The Plotnikovs thought it was an Internet scam when they started getting emails expressing condolences over their son’s death. Then they saw the news reports and realized it might be true.

It is uncertain how many Canadians have met similar fates. The Canadian Security Intelligence Service would not disclose how many Canadians have died fighting for foreign armed groups. It’s possible the agency does not know, since many have gone to countries with non-functioning governments, or where missile strikes leave little in the way of remains.

Studies on radicalization suggest that converts are particularly vulnerable to extremist ideologues, who prey on their ignorance and zeal. According to a study on the RCMP website, conversion “can create an emotional experience that is easy for radicalization agents to manipulate.” As newcomers to their beliefs, converts may also feel the need to prove themselves to the group, a New York Police Department study said.

“You see it’s just like the Christians,” Mr. Plotnikov said. “There are Catholics, there are Orthodox, there are Seven Day Adventists. The same thing in Islam. Islam has lots of movements. Whatever he chose, it was not approved by his friends. And he was told that, ‘You went the wrong way.’ But like it says, blessed are those who believe. So he was programmed. He knew where he was going, he knew the aims.

So this is what he did.”

Because William was not wanted for any major crimes, and had only been a member of the insurgent group, Russian authorities agreed to release his body and Mr. Plotnikov flew to Dagestan to collect his son’s remains.

He buried William in Utamysh according to local Muslim traditions. “Because he converted to Islam, he was fighting for them, he lived there for some time. That’s why I buried him there. We will try and maybe fly over there, maybe once a year.”

Between visits, he said, the villagers will tend to the gravestone. It is a simple marker, about the size of a book. Inscribed on it are William’s name, birth date, date of his death and the symbol of a crescent moon.

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Read the story yesterday.  While I can feel for his Father and the grief he must be feeling, the kid played with fire and reaped what he sowed.  I'm glad he did not get a chance to bring his roadshow back here.
 
Thought I felt tinge of sympathy for a sec.

Turns out it was a cramp in my foot.
 
Where religion is strong it causes cruelty. Intense beliefs produce intense hostility.
 
jollyjacktar said:
Read the story yesterday.  While I can feel for his Father and the grief he must be feeling, the kid played with fire and reaped what he sowed.  I'm glad he did not get a chance to bring his roadshow back here.

I feel for the family. Him, not as much.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/09/15/chicago-terrorism-car-bomb.html

U.S. teen arrested in Chicago car bomb plot
U.S. citizen from a Chicago suburb, was arrested Friday night in an undercover FBI operation
The Associated Press
Posted: Sep 15, 2012 7:58 PM ET

Undercover Federal Bureau of Investigation agents arrested an 18-year-old American man who tried to detonate what he was led to believe was a car bomb outside a downtown Chicago bar, federal prosecutors said Saturday.

Adel Daoud, a U.S. citizen from the Chicago suburb of Hillside, was arrested Friday night in an undercover operation in which agents pretending to be terrorists provided him with a phony car bomb.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Chicago, which announced the arrest Saturday, said the device was harmless and the public was never at risk.

Daoud is charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and attempting to damage and destroy a building with an explosive.

Someone who answered a call to Daoud's home in Hillside on Saturday who said her name was Hiba and that she was Daoud's sister declined to discuss Daoud, the family or the arrest.
'We'd like to be left alone'

"We don't even know anything. We don't know that much. We know as little as you do," she said. "They're just accusations."

"We'd like to be left alone," she said.

No one answered the door of the two-story brick home later Saturday.

A next-door neighbour said he was shocked by the arrest, describing Daoud as a quiet boy who played basketball in the driveway with friends and calling his parents "wonderful" people.

"I heard maybe he had a little trouble in school," said the neighbor, 78-year-old Harry Pappas. "He was quiet, didn't talk much, but he seemed like a good kid."

Pappas said he saw a dozen unmarked cars drive up to the house Friday night and several agents go inside.

The FBI began monitoring Daoud after he posted material online about violent jihad and the killing of Americans, federal prosecutors said.

In May, two undercover FBI agents contacted Daoud in response to the postings and exchanged several electronic messages with him in which he expressed an interest in engaging in violent jihad in the United States or abroad, according to an affidavit by an FBI special agent.
29 potential targets

Prosecutors say that after being introduced to an undercover FBI agent who claimed to be a terrorist living in New York, Daoud set about identifying 29 potential targets, including military recruiting centers, bars, malls and tourist attractions in Chicago.

He is accused of settling on a downtown bar and conducting surveillance on it using Google Street View and visiting the area in person to take photographs.

Describing the target to the agent, Daoud said it was also a concert venue and next to a liquor store, according to the affidavit.

"It's a bar, it's a liquor store, it's a concert. All in one bundle," the document quotes him as saying. The affidavit said he noted that the bar would be filled with the "evilest people ... all the kuffars are there." Kuffar is the Arabic term for non-believer.

Shortly after 7 p.m. Friday, Daoud met in the suburb of Villa Park with the undercover agent who claimed to be from New York, and the two drove to downtown Chicago, where the restaurants and bars were packed with workers ringing in the weekend on a pleasantly warm evening. According to the affidavit, they entered a parking lot where a Jeep Cherokee containing the phony bomb was parked.

Daoud drove the vehicle and parked in front of a bar that was among the pre-selected targets, then walked a block away and attempted to detonate the device by pressing a triggering mechanism in the presence of the agent, according to the affidavit. He was then arrested.

The court documents do not identify the bar.
Didn't walk away

Prosecutors said Daoud was offered several chances to change his mind and walk away from the plot.

The FBI has used similar tactics in other counterterrorism investigations, deploying undercover agents to engage suspects in talk of terror plots and then provide them with fake explosive devices.

In a 2010 case, a Lebanese immigrant took what he thought was a bomb and dropped it into a trash bin near Chicago's Wrigley Field. In a 2009 case, agents provided a Jordanian man with a fake truck bomb that he used to try to blow up a 60-story office tower in Dallas.

The affidavit said the Daoud was active in jihadist Internet forums and was accessing articles written by Anwar al-Awlaki, the U.S.-born radical cleric who became a key figure in the Yemen-based al-Qaeda offshoot known as al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

Al-Awlaki was killed in a U.S. drone strike in Yemen last year.

In his communications with one of the FBI agents about possible targets, Daoud allegedly said he wanted to carry out an attack that would kill a large number of people.

"I wanted something that's ... massive; I want something that's gonna make it in the news," he wrote, according to the affidavit. "I want to get to like, for me I want to get the most evil place, but I want to get a more populated place."
© The Associated Press, 2012
The Canadian Press
 
Peer Khairi didn't like wife's demand for equal rights, trial hears
By Michele Mandel ,Toronto Sun Wednesday, October 17, 2012
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Peer Khairi was miserable in Canada: the Afghan immigrant complained that he had no job, he couldn’t speak the language, his kids were becoming Westernized and his wife was no longer subservient.

“He told me his wife had changed,” recalled Neelab Subhani, a settlement counsellor at the Afghan Women’s Organization who met with Khairi in 2007. “He told me, ‘Here there is more rights for women.’ So his wife was saying he has to give her equal rights.”

In Afghanistan, women disobey the male head of their family at their peril. A year after he made those complaints, Khairi savagely butchered his errant spouse.

Randjida Khairi, 53, was killed in a bloodbath of rage on March 18, 2008 inside the family’s apartment on the West Mall. After her husband called 911, police found her petite lifeless body on a mattress drenched through with her blood, her throat slit so deeply that she was almost decapitated, her chest and back riddled with five plunging knife wounds.

Her husband of 30 years admits inflicting the horrific injuries on his second wife, but maintains he didn’t have the necessary legal intent for murder. In fact, it appears defence lawyer Christopher Hicks may argue Khairi was provoked into killing the 86-pound Randjida: He spent a mystifying time asking Subhani about phrases in Dari that were so “repulsive and profoundly insulting” for an Afghan that they “could not be ignored and you can’t walk away after saying them.”

Crown prosecutors Robert Kenny and Amanda Camara allege Khairi, 65, murdered his wife because she had become too permissive, too Canadian it seems, by allowing their six children to dress and date as they liked instead of maintaining his strict rules of their birthplace.

After leaving Afghanistan, the Khairis lived in India before moving to Canada in 2003. Khairi came to the Afghan Women’s Organization office in 2007 for help in filling out applications for Canadian citizenship. During their two-hour meeting, Subhani said he confided that unlike the rest of his family, he was finding it difficult to adjust to the new ways of this country.

“It was hard for him coming to Canada,” she recalled. “He said the kids are young, more open-minded, they would not listen to him.”

Not only were his disobedient children showing disrespect, so too was his wife with her newfound ideas about women’s equality. “He was sad a little bit,” Subhani recalled. “I could see deep down he’s not happy.”

Shortly before she was slain, Randjida was making confessions of her own.

Anisa Sharifi is another settlement counsellor from the Afghan Women’s Organization. She first met the family in 2006 to help them with their welfare applications and didn’t hear from them again until Randjida called her several months before she was killed.

“She told me she doesn’t want to be living with her husband anymore and asked me how to go through the process of separation,” Sharifi told Khairi’s second-degree murder trial.
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That's rich - he was provoked. What balderdash .....utter crap.

It's not a defence IMO. Maybe his lawyer can house him ......
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/11/30/bc-rebecca-rubin-eco-terrorism.html

Not the most recent of threads but the best location I could find for it:

B.C. 'eco-terrorism' suspect to plead guilty in U.S.
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A B.C. woman connected to what the FBI calls the largest case of domestic terrorism in U.S. history is expected to plead guilty to all but the most serious of 10 charges against her.

Rebecca Rubin, 39, turned herself in to U.S. authorities at the border in Blaine, Wash., on Thursday after working out a plea agreement for her part in a series of spectacular arsons more than a decade ago.

According to the FBI, the Canadian citizen was one of more than a dozen members of a cell of the Earth Liberation Front, a radical group that firebombed businesses and government buildings across five U.S. states in the name of defending the environment.

The charges against Rubin are related to the firebombing of wild horse corrals in Oregon and California, and setting fire to a ski resort in Colorado between 1996 and 2001.

No one was killed in the fires, but they did cause an estimated $40 million in damage.

In 2008, the FBI offered a $50,000 reward for tips leading to Rubin's arrest, noting she may have been living in Nelson, B.C. In 2009, the agency issued at second bulletin saying she might be in Vancouver.

Approached RCMP in 2009
Vancouver lawyer Ian Donaldson said Rubin approached him three years ago looking to turn herself in, but the RCMP did not seem too interested in arresting her.

Donaldson said his client was not taken into custody by the RCMP at that time. Instead she spent the next three years working out a plea agreement, according to her U.S. lawyer.

Donaldson did not say where Rubin had been living in Canada, but did say she decided to turn herself in to deal with the charges so she could move on with her life.

In 2008 and 2009 the FBI issued bulletins saying Rebecca Rubin was likely hiding out in B.C. (FBI)"She's certainly remorseful for her actions and feels ashamed of decisions she made. I think that as is the case with many people with the benefit of maturity you see some of your former actions very differently," Donaldson said.

Plea deal took 3 years
Rubin's Oregon lawyer, Rick Troberman, said working out Rubin's plea agreement with U.S. prosecutors took time.

"Rebecca has concluded — and rightfully so — it's time to put this matter behind her. I'm comfortable we will work out a reasonable deal."

Troberman said Rubin will plead guilty to all but the most serious charge of using a destructive device, which carries a mandatory 30-year prison term.

Oregon Assistant United States Attorney Stephen Peifer confirmed Rubin is co-operating with authorities.

"It's very significant that she's decided to co-operate and turn herself in," he said.

After making an appearance in U.S. District Court in Seattle on Thursday, Rubin is expected to be transferred in custody to Oregon to face trial.

10 co-conspirators sentenced already
In 2007, 10 of Rubin's co-conspirators were sentenced to prison sentences ranging from three to 13 years. Two were sent to special Communications Management Units (CMU) normally reserved for al Qaeda-type terrorists.

Rubin's U.S. lawyer said it is unlikely she will be sent to a CMU prison, where communication and visits are severely restricted, because of her plea agreement, but she can expect a similar sentence after she pleads guilty in Oregon to most of the charges.

Rubin is facing eight counts of arson in the Oct. 19, 1998, fires that destroyed Two Elk Lodge and other buildings at the Vail ski area in Eagle County, Colo.

She was also charged in California with conspiracy, arson, and using a destructive device in the Oct. 15, 2001, fire at the BLM Litchfield Wild Horse and Burro Corrals near Susanville, Calif.

Each count of arson and attempted arson carries a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison, up to a maximum of 20 years.

Use of a destructive device in relation to a crime of violence carries a mandatory consecutive sentence of 30 years in prison.

Conspiracy carries a maximum sentence of five years. Each count in the three indictments carries a potential fine of up to $250,000.

 
2 Canadians among militants killed in Algeria siege, reports say

This has not been confirmed by Ottawa yet.....


http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/01/21/algeria-hostage-canadians.html

Algerian forces have found the bodies of two Canadian Islamist fighters at the remote gas plant that was the scene of a hostage-taking last week that has left at least 81 people dead, reports say.

Documents found on the bodies of two militants had identified them as Canadians, an Algerian security source told Reuters.

The Canadian government said Monday it's aware of reports that Canadians may have been involved in the four-day hostage situation at the Ain Amenas natural gas plant.

'We are pursuing all appropriate channels to seek further information and are in close contact with Algerian authorities.'—Department of Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Chrystiane Roy

"We are pursuing all appropriate channels to seek further information and are in close contact with Algerian authorities," Department of Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Chrystiane Roy told CBC News on Monday.

"Canada condemns in the strongest possible terms this deplorable and cowardly attack and all terrorist groups which seek to create and perpetuate insecurity in the Sahel countries of West Africa."

Death toll rises past 80

Authorities said the takeover was carried out Wednesday by 32 men from six countries, under the command from afar of the one-eyed Algerian bandit Moktar Belmoktar, founder of the Masked Brigade, based in Mali.
In this image made from video, individuals believed to be hostages kneel in the sand with their hands in the air at an unknown location in Algeria. (Ennahar TV/Associated Press)
Armed with heavy machine-guns, rocket launchers, missiles and grenades, the militants singled out foreign workers — from countries including Japan, Britain, the Philippines and Romania — at the plant, killing some of them on the spot and attaching explosive belts to others.

Algerian forces stormed the gas plant on Saturday, bringing the four-day hostage situation to a violent end. Algerian authorities began searching the refinery for explosive traps left behind by the attackers and found dozens more bodies. At least 25 more bodies were found Sunday, but many were so badly disfigured that it was unclear whether they were hostages or militants, a security official said.

At last count, at least 32 Islamist militants and 23 hostages were killed, according to the Algerian government.

Confirmed dead so far include:
Six from the Philippines.
Three from Britain.
Two from Romania.
One each from the U.S. and France.

Many hostages remain unaccounted for, including 10 Japanese workers, according to their employer JGC Corp.

Five Norwegian employees of Statoil are still missing, the energy company said Sunday, and the U.K. government said three other Britons are still missing and feared dead.

Four Filipino workers are unaccounted for, said a government spokesman in Manila, and two Malaysians are missing, its government said.

The number of possible American hostages is still unclear. One Texan is dead, the U.S. has confirmed. The militants at first said they were holding seven American hostages, but there has been no official confirmation if any Americans are unaccounted for.
 
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