"I was born to rape"
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Confinement to the deepest, darkest, most damp solitary dungeon (I sure Austria has some somewhere) for the rest of his natural life, minimal food, no recreation time or supplies.....that aught to do it for now.....the whip annually would be nice, but the tree huggers and such would probably complain, and they get annoying...
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The thing is, if this guy goes into something like solitary, it seems like maybe the voices in his head would be enough to keep him company until he dies...He's in his 70's...Who knows how long he might live. Is there really a punishment fitting enough for someone who would do something like he did?
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HollywoodHitman said:
I am sure the people behind the SAW franchise, could come up with some ideas.
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Sadly, even solitary will not punish this creature.
I think rule 556 is called for here.
I think rule 556 is called for here.
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solitary or special wings are too expensive; they should be put with the general population where they become someones bitch and eventually get killed. Olson, Bernardo and others are just using up valuable dollars that could be better spent somewhere else.
cheers,
Frank
cheers,
Frank
Towards_the_gap
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Hang him. Simple, cheap (what, $0.50 a foot for 1'' manila or sisal), and effective. A monster off the streets, for good, and not as a burden on the state.
Yrys
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Fritzl admits rape, denies murder, Monday, 16 March 2009
Josef Fritzl, accused of imprisoning his daughter and fathering her children,
has pleaded guilty to rape and incest but not guilty to murder. The Austrian
is accused of the murder by neglect of one of his daughter's children. He
also denied enslavement.
TV pictures showed the 73-year-old enter the courtroom with his face
concealed by a blue file. He refused to answer journalists' questions.
The trial, in the city of St Poelten, is attracting intense media interest.
Mr Fritzl is alleged in 1984 to have lured his daughter into a cellar with
windowless soundproofed chambers beneath their house and then raped
her repeatedly.
The daughter and three of her seven children were kept captive in the
cellar until the case came to light in April last year when one of the
children became seriously ill and was taken to hospital.
Some legal experts have said it may be hard to prove the murder charge
but the charge of enslavement carries a maximum penalty of 20 years,
the BBC's Steve Rosenberg reports from St Poelten. Some of the other
charges against him carry a sentence of up to 15 years.
While convicts become eligible for parole having served half their sentence
under Austrian law, there are other clauses which could prevent an eligible
convict walking free if it is considered he could re-offend, our correspondent
notes.
'Morbid atmosphere'
Escorted by six policemen and dressed in a light grey, checked jacket and dark
grey trousers, Mr Fritzl made the short walk down the corridor from his cell
to the courtroom, where journalists tried unsuccessfully to question him
before the judges arrived.Speaking in a composed voice, Mr Fritzl gave
the judges his name and other personal details.
In her opening statement, prosecutor Christiane Burkheiser said Mr Fritzl
had used his daughter "as a toy". "[The defendant] showed no sign of
regret or any consciousness of wrongdoing," she said, quoted by AFP
news agency. "Josef Fritzl treated his daughter as his property, he
made her completely dependent."
Ms Burkheiser said he also sometimes raped her in front of their children,
and described the atmosphere in the cellar. "I went down there twice and
there's a morbid atmosphere," she said. "It's damp, it's musty, it's mouldy."
'Not a monster'
The prosecutor also blamed Mr Fritzl squarely for the death of one of twin
boys that his daughter gave birth to in 1996. "He failed to seek any help",
despite his daughter's pleas, when the baby developed breathing problems,
Ms Burkheiser said. "That my dear jurors, is murder by negligence."
But defence lawyer Rudolf Mayer said his client was "a human being not
a monster" and appealed to jurors to be objective. He said his client had
shown concern for the children by removing some of them from the cellar
and taking one of them to hospital. "As a monster, I'd kill all of them
downstairs," he said.
Mr Fritzl himself described his childhood to the court. "My mother didn't
want me. She was 42 when she had me," he said, quoted by AFP news
agency. "She simply didn't want a child and she treated me
correspondingly. I was beaten."
In her introduction, court president Andrea Humer said she wished to
emphasise that a single person was on trial, not a town or a region.
The judge asked Mr Fritzl some questions about his life and work
experience, before sending the public out of the courtroom as the
remaining evidence was deemed too sensitive.
Camera crews and photographers had already been told to leave.
An estimated 200 journalists are in St Poelten for the trial but fewer
than 100 were allowed inside the courthouse. An air exclusion zone
has been imposed above the courthouse to prevent news crews using
helicopters to get aerial shots.
Privacy protection
Mr Fritzl has been held in custody in St Poelten since his arrest nearly
a year ago.
All evidence in the trial is due to be given behind closed doors out of
concern for the privacy of the family. The evidence includes hours
of pre-recorded testimony given by the daughter at the centre of the
case. Edited details of the day's proceedings will then be released to
the press each afternoon.
The trial is predicted to last just a week, with a verdict expected on
Friday.
FRITZL CHARGES AND PLEAS
Josef Fritzl, his face partially hidden by a folder, attends his trial, 16 March
Murder - not guilty plea
Enslavement - not guilty plea
Deprivation of liberty - guilty plea
Rape - partially guilty plea*
Incest - guilty plea
Coercion - guilty plea
*Understood to mean he is contesting the wording of the charges
Josef Fritzl, accused of imprisoning his daughter and fathering her children,
has pleaded guilty to rape and incest but not guilty to murder. The Austrian
is accused of the murder by neglect of one of his daughter's children. He
also denied enslavement.
TV pictures showed the 73-year-old enter the courtroom with his face
concealed by a blue file. He refused to answer journalists' questions.
The trial, in the city of St Poelten, is attracting intense media interest.
Mr Fritzl is alleged in 1984 to have lured his daughter into a cellar with
windowless soundproofed chambers beneath their house and then raped
her repeatedly.
The daughter and three of her seven children were kept captive in the
cellar until the case came to light in April last year when one of the
children became seriously ill and was taken to hospital.
Some legal experts have said it may be hard to prove the murder charge
but the charge of enslavement carries a maximum penalty of 20 years,
the BBC's Steve Rosenberg reports from St Poelten. Some of the other
charges against him carry a sentence of up to 15 years.
While convicts become eligible for parole having served half their sentence
under Austrian law, there are other clauses which could prevent an eligible
convict walking free if it is considered he could re-offend, our correspondent
notes.
'Morbid atmosphere'
Escorted by six policemen and dressed in a light grey, checked jacket and dark
grey trousers, Mr Fritzl made the short walk down the corridor from his cell
to the courtroom, where journalists tried unsuccessfully to question him
before the judges arrived.Speaking in a composed voice, Mr Fritzl gave
the judges his name and other personal details.
In her opening statement, prosecutor Christiane Burkheiser said Mr Fritzl
had used his daughter "as a toy". "[The defendant] showed no sign of
regret or any consciousness of wrongdoing," she said, quoted by AFP
news agency. "Josef Fritzl treated his daughter as his property, he
made her completely dependent."
Ms Burkheiser said he also sometimes raped her in front of their children,
and described the atmosphere in the cellar. "I went down there twice and
there's a morbid atmosphere," she said. "It's damp, it's musty, it's mouldy."
'Not a monster'
The prosecutor also blamed Mr Fritzl squarely for the death of one of twin
boys that his daughter gave birth to in 1996. "He failed to seek any help",
despite his daughter's pleas, when the baby developed breathing problems,
Ms Burkheiser said. "That my dear jurors, is murder by negligence."
But defence lawyer Rudolf Mayer said his client was "a human being not
a monster" and appealed to jurors to be objective. He said his client had
shown concern for the children by removing some of them from the cellar
and taking one of them to hospital. "As a monster, I'd kill all of them
downstairs," he said.
Mr Fritzl himself described his childhood to the court. "My mother didn't
want me. She was 42 when she had me," he said, quoted by AFP news
agency. "She simply didn't want a child and she treated me
correspondingly. I was beaten."
In her introduction, court president Andrea Humer said she wished to
emphasise that a single person was on trial, not a town or a region.
The judge asked Mr Fritzl some questions about his life and work
experience, before sending the public out of the courtroom as the
remaining evidence was deemed too sensitive.
Camera crews and photographers had already been told to leave.
An estimated 200 journalists are in St Poelten for the trial but fewer
than 100 were allowed inside the courthouse. An air exclusion zone
has been imposed above the courthouse to prevent news crews using
helicopters to get aerial shots.
Privacy protection
Mr Fritzl has been held in custody in St Poelten since his arrest nearly
a year ago.
All evidence in the trial is due to be given behind closed doors out of
concern for the privacy of the family. The evidence includes hours
of pre-recorded testimony given by the daughter at the centre of the
case. Edited details of the day's proceedings will then be released to
the press each afternoon.
The trial is predicted to last just a week, with a verdict expected on
Friday.
FRITZL CHARGES AND PLEAS
Josef Fritzl, his face partially hidden by a folder, attends his trial, 16 March
Murder - not guilty plea
Enslavement - not guilty plea
Deprivation of liberty - guilty plea
Rape - partially guilty plea*
Incest - guilty plea
Coercion - guilty plea
*Understood to mean he is contesting the wording of the charges
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I say hang this sicko!
OldSolduer
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I have a theory:
Some people are "hard wired" to do evil.
Some of us are "hard wired" to do good.
I'm no pyschologist. It sure seems that these serial criminals have an "evil" gene or something.
Some people are "hard wired" to do evil.
Some of us are "hard wired" to do good.
I'm no pyschologist. It sure seems that these serial criminals have an "evil" gene or something.
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GDawg said:
Good thoughts, but I doubt if it will happen. She may be scrutinized, but I think some lawyer will raise the "battered woman's syndrome" defence and she'll be another victim.
They may do things differently in Europe though.
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To our outraged members and guests,
As unseemly as this excuse for a human is, he's entitled to his day in court. It will also be up to the court to decide what punishment he receives.
We've been through this before, on the site. No matter the personal feelings of the poster, we have a certain stature to uphold here as members of the military and of the premiere military site for the CF.
Please refrain from voicing your opinions on the type of punishment, that falls outside the legal dominion, you would like to see. Keep it to yourself. There's no need for it publicized here.
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As unseemly as this excuse for a human is, he's entitled to his day in court. It will also be up to the court to decide what punishment he receives.
We've been through this before, on the site. No matter the personal feelings of the poster, we have a certain stature to uphold here as members of the military and of the premiere military site for the CF.
Please refrain from voicing your opinions on the type of punishment, that falls outside the legal dominion, you would like to see. Keep it to yourself. There's no need for it publicized here.
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