Eye In The Sky said:
It was an issue at Stad. I also saw MCpls with big lace loops not tucked in boots and other junk like that in Shearwater, sitting beside WOs at the MIR and nothing being said.
I never saw anything like that before, ever, on a army base (I don't consider Kingston an army base).
Last summer at Wing Supply, I saw a Pte who had obviously not shaved before coming into work. I pulled him aside and asked him if he had a shaving chit, which he did not. When I said the obvious "you do know you are supposed to shave" stuff he said "I don't work for you".
My reply of "well why don't we go across the road so you can explain this theory to the WCWOs Assistant?" changed the attitude and he started to remember he was in the military.
It is slipping across the board and it's a leadership failure everyone from Jnr NCOs to the Top needs to follow through on.
Consider Kingston what you want its part of 4 Can Div and therefore a CA base, with logger units as a caveat.
About a month after joining CFJSR we were deploying the regiment to the field, en mass, for what was the first time in 8 years. So I tried to hold a kit inspection for my RQ staff. I was pulled aside by my Sgt and was told he thought I was being mean.
I wear NCDs every day, and I press them before ware, and polish my boots every night. You should see the odd looks I get from people around here for meeting the expected dress standards.
I have to say, I have spent the last 2 weeks assisting with a BOI at RMCC and it is the only place I have seen Sgts and WOs act their rank, while in Kingston. They have no issue you stopping a cadet and fixing a dress and deportment issue.
I was shocked when I arrived in Pet to see people parking on grass, the shacks were a mess and the dress standards were deplorable. Seemed to me that the grungier you looked the cooler more warriorish you were.
If you want to know why the MCpls and below have the attitudes they have look at the Sgts and up. They are the ones to blame.
I say again, you can point fingers all you want at the RCN but this is not their issue. This is an issue right across the CAF.
dapaterson said:
Well, from what I've seen the RCAF is the next best thing to being in the military >
I have never worked with/for the RCAF but I hear the same things >