Happy Winter Solstice

[Kirkhill]

For those that are interested this four part series on the "Dark Ages" sheds a whole lot of light (or perhaps I should say, unblocks the light) on Christianity, Paganism, Vikings, Muslims and Saxons.

The first one addresses directly what Christianity inherited from the Pagans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4o1dc41r28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QXmPKJKVOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGxdCDOu5xs&t=568s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMGUN5oJsI

 

[Kirkhill]

Hmn. So I looked into it a bit more.  Seems that Presbyterians never accepted the 25th as being the day Christ was born and even banned Christmas for centuries being celebrated that day.  Seems that they preferred evidence based worship  ;D

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[FJAG]

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And a Good Yule to all....

Having grown up in a mongrel household (English Episcopalian father and Scots Presbyterian mother) I can vouch that in the 60's my Scots grandparents virtually ignored Christmas in their own home (though they they weren't spare on presents).  Christmas was more of an English thing.

And German. When I grew up in Berlin, Christmas eve was always the big deal. Late evening church followed by coming home to a lit Christmas tree (candles then - it's a miracle we survived) and opening presents. Christmas day was a little more laid back but with a massive Christmas Goose for dinner. The interval between Christmas and New Years was marked by numerous sandwiches made using goose fat. Three traditions stood out for me for New Years: A broiled carp for supper, heating little lumps of tin in a spoon over a candle and dropping the molten metal into cold water--the shape  it took predicted your future for the upcoming year, and fireworks fired off from our apartment's balcony (again, it's a miracle we survived)

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[Kirkhill]

And German. When I grew up in Berlin, Christmas eve was always the big deal. Late evening church followed by coming home to a lit Christmas tree (candles then - it's a miracle we survived) and opening presents. Christmas day was a little more laid back but with a massive Christmas Goose for dinner. The interval between Christmas and New Years was marked by numerous sandwiches made using goose fat. Three traditions stood out for me for New Years: A broiled carp for supper, heating little lumps of tin in a spoon over a candle and dropping the molten metal into cold water--the shape  it took predicted your future for the upcoming year, and fireworks fired off from our apartment's balcony (again, it's a miracle we survived)

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Saxons here, saxons there, sassenachs everywhere!

Froehliche Weihnachten.

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And apparently - God Modraniht

Mōdraniht or Modranicht (Old English "Night of the Mothers" or "Mothers' Night") was an event held at what is now Christmas Eve by the Anglo-Saxon Pagans when a sacrifice may have been made. The event is attested by the medieval English historian Bede in his 8th-century Latin work De temporum ratione. Scholars have proposed connections between the Anglo-Saxon Mōdraniht and events attested among other Germanic peoples (specifically those involving the dísir, collective female beings, and Yule) and the Germanic Matres and Matronae, female beings attested by way of altar and votive inscriptions, nearly always appearing in trios.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Wow! I really ignited a storm this year with my annual celebration and underlining of the Solstice.

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[Nfld Sapper]

;D

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[SeaKingTacco]

It is threads like this that explain why I love this place so much...

 

[AbrahamL]

According to https://www.timeanddate.com tomorrow the daytime will be 3 seconds longer.

Just enjoy the daytime even to the last seconds of the day.

 

[Kirkhill]

For those that are interested this four part series on the "Dark Ages" sheds a whole lot of light (or perhaps I should say, unblocks the light) on Christianity, Paganism, Vikings, Muslims and Saxons.

The first one addresses directly what Christianity inherited from the Pagans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4o1dc41r28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QXmPKJKVOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGxdCDOu5xs&t=568s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMGUN5oJsI

Just for the record I see that the above links have been superseded

The Dark Ages: An Age Of Light - Part One (Ancient History Documentary) | Timeline 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i64Vae4tYTQ

The Dark Ages: An Age Of Light - Part Two (Ancient History Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTbThe8jtt0&t=178s

The Dark Ages: An Age Of Light - Part Three (Ancient History Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uat2tVUdN4c

The Dark Ages: An Age Of Light - Part Four (Ancient History Documentary) | Timeline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UEOtnNuxV8

There is a part five but I can't find it just now.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

There is a part five but I can't find it just now.

It was burned by the Roman Catholic Church because it contained Greek philosophy on morals that pre-dated Christ? 


;D

 

[Kirkhill]

It was burned by the Roman Catholic Church because it contained Greek philosophy on morals that pre-dated Christ? 


;D

Its the Comfy Chairs for you my lad.... ;D

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Making my wishes early this year, as I will be traveling in the morrow!

So here goes: At 17:27 E.S.T. tomorrow, we will have completed yet one more ellipse around our own little star and the days will grow shorter (in the South! Gotcha all) ... or longer for those of us Northerners.

So to all, Yule! or Noel! and all my best wishes to my pagan friends.

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[FSTO]

Making my wishes early this year, as I will be traveling in the morrow!

So here goes: At 17:27 E.S.T. tomorrow, we will have completed yet one more ellipse around our own little star and the days will grow shorter (in the South! Gotcha all) ... or longer for those of us Northerners.

So to all, Yule! or Noel! and all my best wishes to my pagan friends.

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All hail Odin to you as well my pagan friend!
Foolish one god adherents have ruined good times since the earliest time of recorded history!!!