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There are a slew of other samples of Pogroms in 1948. Both Jewish and Arab victims.Very political response, so without being a pendant, cite one.
There are a slew of other samples of Pogroms in 1948. Both Jewish and Arab victims.Very political response, so without being a pendant, cite one.
Even Wilki has references. It seems that events prior to the UN mandate were primarily Arab instigated with Jewish retaliation. This seems to have increased significantly after the mandate until the Jewish (irgun is it) started in quite viciously and they more than matched the Arabs for brutality. There don't appear to be any angels but just as in October it would seem that the Arabs initiated it and weren't prepared for the blowbackThere are a slew of other samples of Pogroms in 1948. Both Jewish and Arab victims.
The researchers conclude that European pigs arrived in Israel at some point and overtook the local pig population.
To find out when, the researchers collected and analyzed pig bones from archaeological sites across Israel -- ranging from the Neolithic period to medieval times, 9500 BCE to 1200 CE -- the most comprehensive study of ancient DNA carried out in Israel in terms of both number of samples and time span.
The results showed that pigs from the Bronze Age and the beginning of the Iron Age display the local Near Eastern genetic signature, while a European genetic signature appears early in the Iron Age, around 900 BCE, and has been dominant ever since.
Domestic European pig breeds may have been introduced by groups of "Sea Peoples" -- including the Philistines, mentioned in the Bible -- who migrated to the coast of the Levant starting in the 12th century BCE and settled in places like Gaza, Ashkelon, and Ashdod.
Depends, are they saying they wish for freedom, or are they saying exterminate the Jews? Some who chant it are 100% advocating genocide, but context matters. There are some who chant that who genuinely want a free Palestine.So those chanting 'To the River and the Sea' here in Canada- is that considered an argument for advocating genocide under your definition?
There are some who chant that who genuinely want a free Palestine.
I just don’t believe that gives the Israelis carte blanche to do whatever they like. Equal treatment for both
Yeah I don’t agree with killing civilians and calling them collateral. It would not have been acceptable for Canada to kill Quebecers to get the FLQ or the British to kill tons of Irish to get the IRA.What does that mean exactly? First you need to define the borders of a "Palestine".
Once Israel eliminates every member of hamas, then you can call it even-steven for Oct7th. Everything else is collateral.
There is a reason most the West is calling for a ceasefire, it’s because too many innocents are being killed.
I get the Israelis are mad. I get they have legitimate reasons to be mad. But that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to kill uninvolved civilians in some sort of unhinged vendetta.
But a good start no?Yeah I don’t agree with killing civilians and calling them collateral. It would not have been acceptable for Canada to kill Quebecers to get the FLQ or the British to kill tons of Irish to get the IRA.
Agreed.Killing terrorists doesn’t mean you get to kill everyone else in the way.
Proportionality, so they need to temper their wrath with selective targeting and avoid needless civilian casualties.I get the Israelis are mad. I get they have legitimate reasons to be mad. But that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to kill uninvolved civilians in some sort of unhinged vendetta.
The West is quietly asking, a lot stronger words could be used as well as some actions taken to incentivize Israel, if Western Governments actually cared.There is a reason most the West is calling for a ceasefire, it’s because too many innocents are being killed.
A better comparison is Germany or Japan in WWII.Yeah I don’t agree with killing civilians and calling them collateral. It would not have been acceptable for Canada to kill Quebecers to get the FLQ or the British to kill tons of Irish to get the IRA.
Killing terrorists doesn’t mean you get to kill everyone else in the way.
I get the Israelis are mad. I get they have legitimate reasons to be mad. But that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to kill uninvolved civilians in some sort of unhinged vendetta.
There is a reason most the West is calling for a ceasefire, it’s because too many innocents are being killed.
no the big reason is to placate their voters. There is no other reason I can think of for the outright denial of many of the atrocities committed Oct 7 that we have heard or our blind acceptance of the statements by the Palestinians regarding death tolls. Or how about the discoveries (verified) of arms, comm. equipment and tunnels within hospital premises or the participation by the UNWRA in the attacks by Hamas.Yeah I don’t agree with killing civilians and calling them collateral. It would not have been acceptable for Canada to kill Quebecers to get the FLQ or the British to kill tons of Irish to get the IRA.
Killing terrorists doesn’t mean you get to kill everyone else in the way.
I get the Israelis are mad. I get they have legitimate reasons to be mad. But that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to kill uninvolved civilians in some sort of unhinged vendetta.
There is a reason most the West is calling for a ceasefire, it’s because too many innocents are being killed.
If killing terrorists means killing their enablers, supporters, financiers, agents, propagandists, recruiters, trainees, cooks, suppliers, technicians, cheer leaders, helpers, spies, whatever, then that’s a price I’m willing for such people to pay.Yeah I don’t agree with killing civilians and calling them collateral. It would not have been acceptable for Canada to kill Quebecers to get the FLQ or the British to kill tons of Irish to get the IRA.
Killing terrorists doesn’t mean you get to kill everyone else in the way.
I get the Israelis are mad. I get they have legitimate reasons to be mad. But that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to kill uninvolved civilians in some sort of unhinged vendetta.
There is a reason most the West is calling for a ceasefire, it’s because too many innocents are being killed.
Some of those uninvolved civilians were video taped entering into Gaza right behind Hamas, abusing prisoners and dead bodies, and cheering on the murder of jews.I get the Israelis are mad. I get they have legitimate reasons to be mad. But that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to kill uninvolved civilians in some sort of unhinged vendeta.
If you are one of the above you are by definition a terrorist supporter at the very least. I am guessing they use children to hide behind, and as couriers, ammo bearers etc, so they are in effect training the next generation of Hamas.If killing terrorists means killing their enablers, supporters, financiers, agents, propagandists, recruiters, trainees, cooks, suppliers, technicians, cheer leaders, helpers, spies, whatever, then that’s a price I’m willing for such people to pay.
For real. People were calling for a ceasefire before Israel had even commenced its counterattack.No, it's because Hamas is losing.
70% of the people of gaza still support hamas and oct7th, not so many of them are "uninvolved".
For real. People were calling for a ceasefire before Israel had even commenced its counterattack.
Basing that on what? In Dresden, for instance, about 25k of the half million residents were killed. In Tokyo, about 100k of several million residents were killed.If this was 1940-1950, Gaza and everyone living there would be destroyed by now.