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emergency preparedness

Alaskan sawmill powered by stihl (love :) that saw, me. Pushes out rough 10' 6X6 douglas fir. Contemplating a Woodmizer type bandsaw or maybe an antique belt driven 20"circular run off a PTO from the tractor (Ford 9n). Picked up an electic Shindaiwa (laugh here,now) chainsaw for bucking firewood but its only 10A and my wife loves it for pruning the fruit trees and chopping/bucking up light alder and maple. Gotta admit I like it too.

What gen of photovoltaics, wind turbine? No reliable wind here but solar is an option.
Are you capable CB SSB? What antennas are on your tower?
 
ZBM2 said:
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I see you are a sawyer. Better saw, Stihl or Husqavarna?

I love my Husqy - but my neighbour's Stihl suits him fine too.  Both are good solid brands, in my experience.

I also own a Poulin which I bought in a fit of delirium - I'll send it to anyone willing to pay the shipping charges.


Roy
 
Sawmill Steel BOM
description of material length quantity X location of part
Steelwork
2*5*.187" wall rect tube 30.625" 1 carrier top rail
2*5*.187" wall rect tube 30.0" 1 carrier trunion leg
2*5*.187" wall rect tube 35.0" 1 carrier single leg
2*5*.187" wall rect tube 36.0" 1 carrier trunion 
2*5*.187" wall rect tube 240" 2 main rails (Note #1)
4" by .187" wall str channel 33.0" 9 rail cross support
1" by 1" by .125" angle 240" 2 cross carrier (Note #1)
1.5" by 1.5" by .250" angle 240" 2 track  (Note #1)

Note #1- please ensure these parts are as straight as possible, alignment is critical              Please have all cuts at 90 degree on all tubing.

Sawmill machine parts BOM
description of material   quantity X supplier
sprocket, fin.3/4 bore, 35 chain, 15 teeth X Toronto Bearings
V belt idler, a belt size, 3.95 OD 3 X Toronto Bearings
bearing , pillow block, 2 bolt, 3/4 " shaft 4 X Toronto Bearings
3/8" pitch , steel,  #35 std roller chain 10 ft X Toronto Bearings
#35 chain link, full                       4 X Toronto Bearings
#35 chain link, half                                 4 X Toronto Bearings
1" diameter ground shafting, unkeyed 3 feet X Toronto Bearings
1" NC threaded rod, grade 8, 3 ft lengths 2 X Toronto Bearings
1" NC coupling nut                 2 X Toronto Bearings
1" locking collar                 3 Toronto Bearings

4" by 8" by 20 ft spruce rough cut                3                                lumber yard , these are the main log bunks, I chose wood to save blades

I believe this should price out for under $1,000 in mtls, a mig welder is needed, and an hour on a milling machine. If you have the saw your done, unless you want mobility
I added the 4 jack stands and the axle and tow kit for $500, the Husqvarna 3120 was $1360, so all in under 3K, if you have a good saw just get the longer bar, you will cut slower but if your into cedar type mtl its golden. Have pics and ACAD, free only to army.ca
 
Simon said:
OK, Ill do a quick basics to clarify what Im on about. Its all about watts, watts=amps*volts. this is how you will move from AC to DC and back, you need to grasp this or the rest is a waste of time.

You pretty much lost me after this.  Survival, Grog understand, complex setup of battery system, Grog no understand.  Is a diagram available?  I think I can follow the good descriptions of how to set up once I figure it out, but do you have brand names for these pieces of equipment to help in locating them, or at least identify the most reliable/affordable?  Next question, can all this be found at your local Home Depot, or do you have to go to a specialist shop of some kind? 
 
Dear Grog, me helpy ;D
200 Ah gel batteries, as many as you need, goto battery shop, while your there get a 24" length of #6 red and #6 black cable with ring lugs on each end
the inverter is 3000W, Canadian tire sells them, wait for a sale and snap one up then.
the charger, well I use a Vulcan DSP 12 float unit, know upfront I am biased, it lists at $350.00, better price can be got.
the transfer switch is available at Home depot, mine is a gould 6 circuit unit.
This is what I pieced together, I suggest once you investigate these units and get aquainted with the concept you can sniff around, I am happy with it as is.

I took delivery of my 16Kw generator on Friday, its got a 16 circuit auto transfer switch, I will be adapting everything I mentioned above into the new supersystem. I heat my home with high efficiency Geothermal, so I decided to go genny to run it rather than alternative heat sources. The Geo runs at 4.5:1 efficiency, hard to beat.

hope this helps, if not fire it back, in the mean time if someone can tell me how to get the digital photos on this site I will.
Simon
 
Roy Harding said:
I love my Husqy - but my neighbour's Stihl suits him fine too.  Both are good solid brands, in my experience.

I also own a Poulin which I bought in a fit of delirium - I'll send it to anyone willing to pay the shipping charges.


Roy

Poulin? And I had so much respect for you. Is it the one with "Wild Thing" on the bar? You drink, don't you? I remember when one of my buddies was going on about his new saw. He finally produced the "Wild Thing" and I had to ask him if it was designed for the skateboard generation - I guess they have a use...I could never be arsed to find one though.

I started with a hand me down Jonsered and had no problems with it even in junking of firewood which has been the death of many greater saws. Then onto a Husky but the guy I bought it from folded up shop and the area service went to shit. I bit the bullet last year and went with a Stihl and have never been happier.

Me still likey Partner saws though, sooooo much fun.
 
Oh, and before I forget...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Tamp2fHhg

Do you size your saw in cc's or litres?
 
if ya wanna size in litres my husqvarna 3120 is a 2
 
Simon said:
Hope this helps, if not fire it back, in the mean time if someone can tell me how to get the digital photos on this site I will.
Simon

Simon, thanks, looks like a full time project for this spring.  The Mrs. and I have been looking at something like this for a while but all previous estimates were in the 5-10K range and pretty much had to be installed by a contractor.
 
Scott said:
Poulin? And I had so much respect for you. Is it the one with "Wild Thing" on the bar?

Yes.  :-[ :-[

Scott said:
You drink, don't you?

Yes.  :-[

Scott said:
I remember when one of my buddies was going on about his new saw. He finally produced the "Wild Thing" and I had to ask him if it was designed for the skateboard generation - I guess they have a use...I could never be arsed to find one though.

I started with a hand me down Jonsered and had no problems with it even in junking of firewood which has been the death of many greater saws. Then onto a Husky but the guy I bought it from folded up shop and the area service went to shit. I bit the bullet last year and went with a Stihl and have never been happier.

Me still likey Partner saws though, sooooo much fun.

In my own defence, it took me very little time to chuck the Poulin in the corner of the garage and buy a Husqie.


Roy
 
I thought Id pass along a lesson learned since the topic is chainsaws.

I was away back in the bush alone cutting firewood and left the headlights on in the truck. When I got back the battery was stone cold dead. I was looking at a 20 km walk home in the dark  when I got to thinking. Why not try and spin up the alternator with my chainsaw. Pulled the serpentine belt of the front of the engine and the bar off my saw and ran the belt around the alternator pulley and my chainsaw drive pulley and leaned back HARD. Fired up the saw and drove the alternator pulley for 10 minutes or so. Battery was still dead. Sat back and scratched my head and then figured out TURN THE IGNITION KEY ON TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT. Ran the saw for 10 minutes and the truck started up right away. Chainsaw chewed the hell out of the belt but it got me home. Next time I'll remember to turn the lights off.

Your Poulan saw is shite. I will admit it I have bought poulan and knock offs-they are generic. And crap.

Advice for anyone in the market for a chainsaw, buy STIHL or HUSKY. You wont be sorry.

Since emergency preparedness is the topic of this thread. Any Firefighters, Hospital workers, Police, ERT, ambulance, paramedics etc want to weigh in??
I'd like to hear your views.


 
ZBM2 said:
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Your Poulan saw is shite. I will admit it I have bought poulan and knock offs-they are generic. And crap.

Advice for anyone in the market for a chainsaw, buy STIHL or HUSKY. You wont be sorry.

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I do believe I said as much about the Poulin above. 

And you're right, as myself and others have said - STIHL and HUSKIE are excellent machines.

Although no longer in any of the professions you solicit input from, I do live in a fairly remote area of BC where power outages, road closures (due to floods, landslides, and snow) are common.  "Emergency Preparedness" is not a case of "emergency" planning for us - it is simply a routine consideration.

There is ALWAYS at least one month's worth of non-perishable food in the house - we replenish as we consume it, thus achieving stock rotation.  Although we heat normally with natural gas, the wood stove heats the house admirably, which we knew when we installed it, and proved a few times last winter.  There is never less than a cord of wood stored on the place.  There is never less than 20 gallons of gasoline available for use.  This gas is normally used for my small garden tractor/snow blower and other small tools around the place, thus once again achieving "stock rotation".  In the case of an emergency, the fuel would be available mostly for the (Huskie) chainsaw.  We only store 10 gallons of water (once again rotated), as we live withing 750 meters of a clean fresh river (Kitsum-Kalum, if you're curious), and access to water would never be a problem - just a small irritation to collect should it come to that.

The only piece to the puzzle still missing is a good generator - with it I will power the well, basement sump, furnace, refrigerator and freezer, and a few chosen circuits in the house for lights and computer (computer equals comms - unless the local ISP is down, in which case it's no great loss - we'd receive news through the radio - including SW should it come to that).  This lack of generator will be rectified this fall/winter when I complete my shop - I will house the gennie in the machine room of the shop, and have it hooked into the required circuits.

Last winter and late spring we experienced a few power outages/road closures (you may remember Terrace being "cut off" from re-supply of groceries and fuel).  Our plans have been tested and found adequate - no worries here.  The addition of a generator really comes down to convenience, although a longer power outage (more than 48 hours) would result in some food spoilage in the freezer - unless it was winter.

The point I'm making, I think - is that for some, personal emergency preparedness is not a matter of professional interest, but a routine consideration.  In fact the only reason I even think of our own measures as "emergency preparedness" is because of my military background.  My neighbours who have lived here all their lives don't think of it that way - they just consider anyone who is NOT prepared to be cut off for a while an idiot.

It really all just comes down to common dog - and I realize that those living in large cities have a whole host of other considerations to take into account.  In some ways, being prepared is easier when you live in a rural area.


Roy

 
ZBM2 said:
Since emergency preparedness is the topic of this thread. Any Firefighters, Hospital workers, Police, ERT, ambulance, paramedics etc want to weigh in??
I'd like to hear your views.

You've heard mine ;D

http://www.stihlusa.com/chainsaws/MS460Rescue.html

Above link shows a ventilation saw used by fire services. It's a Stihl but there are others that can be found via google.

http://www.firehooksunlimited.net/saws.html

Above is my favourite. K 12 saws are intimidating and the older ones flat out dangerous but they are worth their weight in gold.

Recip saws are also pretty common.

As far as emergency preparedness goes, I can't really weigh in. Of course we want people to be proactive rather than reactive but it's too hard to endorse one specific line of thinking or level of preparedness. I could hazard the thought that emergency preparedness, to me the firefighter, starts with having a first aid kit, knowing how to use that strange looking cylindrical apparatus that shoots out something akin to baking powder that gets tossed under the sink and never thought of again ;D, having your f***ing chimney cleaned regularly so Scott doesn't have to climb onto your roof in a sleet storm, teaching your kids how and when to use 911, teaching the kiddies what to do in case of fire or smoke in the house (And NO, they aren't to rescue Igor the Budgie) and so on.

All of the above is what we tell kiddies every single year (And it starts next week), we drive this into them and I would go so far as to say that I would put more faith in a six year old getting out of a burning house than in the 26 year old. Kids know what they are taught, older kids start thinking they are smarter than the basic education, they attempt to reason with it - and that doesn't work.

Sorry to make it mostly about a fire prevention lesson...

Back on track now. ;D
 
An update on the emergency planning situation in the USA by an ASIS writer:

http://www.securitymanagement.com/article/no-lights-no-camera-just-action
 
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