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Would Airbus allow its product to be marketed as such?
Would Airbus allow its product to be marketed as such?
Reservations are justified, but if done with care, public attention, industry and educational sector input we could develop an industrial niche and value-add to an internationally fielded platform with our most trusted allys, then yes. Invest in a platform, realize the potential to build Canadian industrial speciality and leadership in all things P-8 ASW, ISR, AEW, bomber? Worst case we buy a couple more to experiment on or for training. At least try.Another developmental aircraft that will take decades to IOC?
No thanks.
I'm confused - are you talking about P-8 or the Airbus "Argus II" now?Reservations are justified, but if done with care, public attention, industry and educational sector input we could develop an industrial niche and value-add to an internationally fielded platform with our most trusted allys, then yes. Invest in a platform, realize the potential to build Canadian industrial speciality and leadership in all things P-8 ASW, ISR, AEW, bomber? Worst case we buy a couple more to experiment on or for training. At least try.
Why bring up an article from over 10 years ago?
We lost that capability in the 60’s.but if done with care, public attention, industry and educational sector input
Well that’s considered brand new for most CAF issuesWhy bring up an article from over 10 years ago?
Ah, I meant the P-8.I'm confused - are you talking about P-8 or the Airbus "Argus II" now?
Because if you're talking about the niche, etc then the best thing the Canadian industry can do is specialize in some systems (whatever they are) and be a supplier to the global P-8 fleet for said systems.
Imagine if the western world used Canadian sonobuoys, or a Canadian acoustic processor.
I think it's an interesting page. It's relevant for inclusion on a thread about the CMMA project even if it is 10 years old and the Bombardier CSeries is now an Airbus product and Canada issued a LOR for the P8 just a few days ago (and maybe not even a very practical idea based in reality).It's a sign post along the way.A doodle on the back of a napkin. A daydream or musing...Why bring up an article from over 10 years ago?
Can you imagine anyone in this government even investing the time reading your proposal let alone marshalling the time and resources to make it happen? Their industrial strategy is to smother Oil and Gas and believe, really believe in Green. Kinda like Kermit.Reservations are justified, but if done with care, public attention, industry and educational sector input we could develop an industrial niche and value-add to an internationally fielded platform with our most trusted allys, then yes. Invest in a platform, realize the potential to build Canadian industrial speciality and leadership in all things P-8 ASW, ISR, AEW, bomber? Worst case we buy a couple more to experiment on or for training. At least try.
So basically what I said - Tier 2 supplier to the P-8 program.Ah, I meant the P-8.
I imagined a new Argus based on the P-8 with parts designed and built in Canada.
We should maximize domestic industry capability in select areas, ASW being one of them. We're not going to be the only ones to fly this for the next 30 years so lets design some new parts ourselves and sell to friends.
Probably a pile of parts in the P-8 already that are Can Con. It's not like the supply chains for airospace aren't integrated to some extent.So basically what I said - Tier 2 supplier to the P-8 program.
It would be foolish (and probably a non-starter anyways) to compete with the P-8, using a P-8 platform with Canadian parts. Most of our closest friends already have the P-8A - they're not going to switch to the P-8eh.
Yup. Boeing has a plant in Winnipeg, amongst other places.Probably a pile of parts in the P-8 already that are Can Con. It's not like the supply chains for airospace aren't integrated to some extent.
Reservations are justified, but if done with care, public attention, industry and educational sector input we could develop an industrial niche and value-add to an internationally fielded platform with our most trusted allys, then yes. Invest in a platform, realize the potential to build Canadian industrial speciality and leadership in all things P-8 ASW, ISR, AEW, bomber? Worst case we buy a couple more to experiment on or for training. At least try.
Fairings and some other wing-related composite part. 737, 777, 787. Did a tour there in ASC/ASP. Composites were particularly interesting.Yup. Boeing has a plant in Winnipeg, amongst other places.
Plenty of aviation companies in Canada that probably make stuff for 737s.
From a Boeing news release last summer:Yup. Boeing has a plant in Winnipeg, amongst other places.
Plenty of aviation companies in Canada that probably make stuff for 737s.
Team Poseidon, consisting of CAE, GE Aviation Canada, IMP Aerospace & Defence, KF Aerospace, Honeywell Aerospace Canada and Raytheon Canada, forms the cornerstone of a Canadian P-8 industrial footprint. The team builds on 81 Canadian suppliers to the platform and to more than 550 Canadian suppliers across all provinces contributing to Boeing's annual CAD $5.3 billion in economic benefit to Canada, supporting more than 20,000 Canadian jobs.
In the aviation sector specifically, CAE really pushed with the flight sim and training piece.CAE are just killing it right now. They seem to be in almost every mil contract that involves some sort of vehicle.