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But at the cost of the reporter’s and outlet’s credibility. And the cost of the Sino-philes pointing and saying “See! Nothing to see here! We don’t have to be mean to Beijing. It’s all made up by those nasty anti-Asian people.”

I hope for Sam Cooper’s and Global’s sakes that they know what they’re doing.

That is indeed the risk that is being taken. But nothing better than a good airing of the laundry to come to conclusions that satisfy the populace and encourages the maintenance of Peace, Order and Good Governance.

Sam may be right. He may be wrong. He may only be partly right.

Kind of soon to tell. We need more slanderous attacks and rigorous defences.

One thing that doesn't work: "Trust me!" No matter who is doing the uttering.
 
That is indeed the risk that is being taken. But nothing better than a good airing of the laundry to come to conclusions that satisfy the populace and encourages the maintenance of Peace, Order and Good Governance.

Sam may be right. He may be wrong. He may only be partly right.

Kind of soon to tell. We need more slanderous attacks and rigorous defences.

One thing that doesn't work: "Trust me!" No matter who is doing the uttering.
your last line says it all
 
perhaps reducing the pay and benefits for MPs to an honorarium with no pension would bring about people serving who honestly have their country's interest at heart.
 
perhaps reducing the pay and benefits for MPs to an honorarium with no pension would bring about people serving who honestly have their country's interest at heart.
And remember taxes go up on 1 April along with MPs pay. Go figure eh
 
Is that the fault of the poli-sci grads or is it the fault of the uninformed electorate that votes for them over more qualified candidates?
Both.

The parties should have the self discipline to not push unqualified people into public office, just because they think they can win.

The public should take some responsibility to become somewhat aware of the world, and make reasonable choices, rather than vote for the most charming or nicest looking.
Exactly. Throw the parties in for good measure, and with the caveat that the bolded could read "rather than vote for the one in the right coloured jersey"
Case in point- The Oxford by-election. Arpan Khanna won the CPC bid. No experience outside of politics and political communications. Prior to disqualification Van Dorland was right in there. No experience outside of politics. The CPC candidate is a shoe in in Oxford. A Liberal/NDP/independent version of Alex Ruff (decorated Colonel with STEM degree, small town farm boy) would lose to either. That's a problem.

Case further in point- JT vs. PP
 
perhaps reducing the pay and benefits for MPs to an honorarium with no pension would bring about people serving who honestly have their country's interest at heart.
But wouldn’t that exclude most of the lower classes who should have a place in politics?
 
Lazy? Or simply recognizing that he is writing in a format that demands a simple hook to get the attention of people so as to advance his idea?
Either lazy or dishonest. The identified problem is a multi-decade erosion of QoL primarily driven by the cost of housing, that's not evidence of sweeping societal decay requiring wholesale democratic reform- it's evidence of a specific broken market.
 
Either lazy or dishonest. The identified problem is a multi-decade erosion of QoL primarily driven by the cost of housing, that's not evidence of sweeping societal decay requiring wholesale democratic reform- it's evidence of a specific broken market.

Taken on its own it could be either, or.

If it is fair to say that Westerners are more obese than the Masai because they don't subsist on warm milk and blood straight from the cow then it is equally fair to make the observation that Stronach made.

How many contributing factors there might be is, entertainingly, up for debate. Along with the anthropogenic influence on climate change. And whether or not we should be gorging ourselves on Irishmen.
 
The Daily Telegraph has discovered Canada...

Justin Trudeau has let Beijing deep into Canadian politics​

A series of explosive allegations about Chinese interference in Canadian politics have rocked Ottowa
YUAN YI ZHU28 March 2023 • 3:48pm
Yuan Yi Zhu


Justin Trudeau

As hard as it is to conceive of him as such, as the longest-serving head of government in the G7 Justin Trudeau is now one of the world’s elder statesmen. He has achieved this exalted status despite innumerable scandals rocking his government, on issues ranging from corruption to “blackface” to bullying to sexual misconduct, many of which would have felled a lesser politician.
But his lucky streak may finally be ending. For the past month, Ottawa has been riveted by a series of explosive allegations about Chinese interference in Canadian politics, from illegal campaign donations to disinformation campaigns, allegations leaked to the media by members of Canada’s usually docile intelligence service reportedly angry with the government ignoring their reports.
Since then, the allegations have expanded to include accusations of improper relationships between Liberal politicians and the Chinese government. Only last week, Han Dong, a Liberal MP, resigned his party’s whip to sit as an independent to contest allegations that he advised a Chinese diplomat to delay the release of the “Two Michaels”, the Canadians arrested by China in retaliation for the arrest of Meng Wanzhou of Huawei, for political reasons. Mr Dong denies the allegations, and has stated that he is planning to "begin legal action to its fullest extent" against their publisher.
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But what is most damaging for Mr Trudeau and his Liberal government is not so much the acts of foreign interference themselves, bad enough though they are, as the accusation that he wilfully turned a blind eye to what was happening. And little wonder: a Chinese consul was allegedly caught on tape as saying that “The Liberal Party of Canada is becoming the only party that the PRC can support”, as opposed to the opposition Conservatives, who have taken a much more hawkish line on China.
Mr Trudeau’s reaction so far has been to refuse to hold an inquiry into Chinese interference and to accuse his opponents of trying to discredit Canada’s democracy, not to mention anti-Chinese racism. Liberal MPs have filibustered parliamentary committees to stop further investigation and in an attempt to prevent Katie Telford, Mr Trudeau’s powerful chief of staff, from being summoned to testify to Parliament about what her boss knew about the allegations of Chinese interference, and when.
His appointment of David Johnston, a well-respected former governor general, as “special rapporteur” on foreign interference in Canada did little to calm the waters. A card-carrying member of Canada’s cosy establishment, Mr Johnston is a family friend of the Trudeaus, not to mention a former neighbour and a member of the Trudeau Foundation.
Mr Trudeau’s public praise of China’s “basic dictatorship” and his familial antecedents aside (his prime ministerial father was an early Western enthusiast for Mao’s China), his government’s record on China since he became prime minister does not inspire confidence.
He had to fire John McCallum, his own appointee as ambassador to China and former Cabinet colleague, after the latter publicly contradicted his own government’s position and sided with China on the Meng extradition case.
But now, there are signs that all of this is too much, even for Mr Trudeau’s allies. Last Thursday, the House of Commons passed a motion calling for a full public inquiry into Chinese political interference in Canada, with every party except the Liberals voting in favour.
Though the motion is not binding, what is notable is that the New Democratic Party, who are in a confidence-and-supply agreement with the Liberals, voted for it, enabling it to pass. The NDP has said it will not bring down the government over this issue; but the Liberals may well think that a snap election is their only way out of the mess of their own making.
Few seriously think that Mr Trudeau is a Chinese agent, an accusation in the more feverish corners of the Internet. But the best that can be said of his conduct over China is that he has been one of the West’s useful idiots.


A sense of the author's sensibilities
30 Mar 2022
Yuan Yi Zhu

British judges are right to cut ties with Hong Kong

The resignations of Lords Reed and Hodge from Hong Kong’s highest court is not much of a surprise, except perhaps to those who did not realise that serving British judges still administered justice in the territory. Their decision to quit follows soon after the Foreign Secretary, Liz Truss, decided to withdraw government support for the continued

Canada's Beverley McLachlin did not quit the bench.
 
Why is he not listing CSIS and/or the sources as part of the lawsuit?
He (his lawyer) has probably figured out or assumed that there is no hope in getting enough 'balance of probabilities' evidence against them. The agency along with its information, sources and methods is not compellable.
“Politicians were mostly people who'd had too little morals and ethics to stay lawyers.”

― George R.R. Martin
'To lazy to work for it - too honest to steal it'.
But wouldn’t that exclude most of the lower classes who should have a place in politics?
That's the problem. In order to enter politics at anything but the local level, you need to be secure enough in employment and/or finances to essentially drop out of the economy for at least a term then jump back in.
 
The Daily Telegraph has discovered Canada...




A sense of the author's sensibilities


Canada's Beverley McLachlin did not quit the bench.
With some of the major world publications (NY Times, Daily Telegraph et al) now examining what’s happening here, perhaps the Canadian media along with the general population won’t be so apt to lose interest…although I’ve been wrong before. And to think, Justin’s fancy socks weren’t even mentioned in the articles you cited. Bloody shame.
 
He (his lawyer) has probably figured out or assumed that there is no hope in getting enough 'balance of probabilities' evidence against them. The agency along with its information, sources and methods is not compellable.

'To lazy to work for it - too honest to steal it'.

That's the problem. In order to enter politics at anything but the local level, you need to be secure enough in employment and/or finances to essentially drop out of the economy for at least a term then jump back in.
I knew a guy back in Uni who decided after graduating to go and work at the mini-van (Plant 3 as it was called to old Windsorites) for Chrysler. He stayed involved in politics during this time (I got to know him from his joining the old PC Youth Party for 2yrs before he jumped ship over to the Reform Party on campus). Anyways, he eventually won the nomination for the Conservative Party and was elected in the JUne, 2004 election. He was the MP for Essex, Ontario until losing in the 2015 election.
His name was Jeff Watson - a 'normal' run of the mill guy, who happened to be an auto-worker who was a staunch Conservative and representative an area for 11yrs that historically has always been Socialist/Liberal leaning.
 
Terry Glavin talks about accusations that Chinese-Canadians who call out Beijing are “racist”.

 
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Quite often Chinese publications in Canada and around the world push the Chinese Communist Party's agenda to diaspora communities. As many Chinese outside of China do not support the regime, this is an unfair media representation of their communities in Canada.

But there's a bigger problem, due to lacklustre enforcement by Canadian authorities when it comes to the CCP's reach in Canada and intimidation of Chinese people here, Chinese in Canada are even afraid to speak out about their low-quality and biased media that is supposedly serving their communities.

Here at Found in Translation we want the wider Canadian public to see the kind of articles Chinese media in Canada is publishing. Considering the size of Canada's Chinese population we feel it is important everyone knows what this community is being fed regularly.

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Our newsletter will simply curate some of the more questionable material in Chinese media and translate it straight up for you to read.

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Previously I had joked that Justin’s fancy socks collection should include some of Xi Jinping. And now, voila… lookie there!

 
And then there’s this:



Han Dong also stated the below which Global insinuates is false.

“I raised the status of Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig and called for their immediate release,” he wrote.

“At every opportunity before they returned home, I adamantly demanded their release to Canada without delay. Any suggestions otherwise are false and are attempts to mislead you and your readers, and slander me.”

Global News reviewed all statements made by Dong in Parliament since he was elected in 2019 and found no remarks related to the Two Michaels or calls for their freedom prior to March 2023

Dong did not respond to questions about where he’s previously made such statements.
 
Hypothesis: the US, growing more concerned about the China threat including the possibility of an invasion of Taiwan, believes it will be in a hot war with China at some point. Due to the possibility of pending conflict, the US no longer tolerates a Canada that is cozy with China. The US leaked the LPC/China scandal to instigate Canada fix itself, or at least become far more aware of the threat thereby to reduce that vulnerability.
 
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