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CANFORGEN on Pay and PIL

Pusser

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I've heard rumours from credible sources that a CANFORGEN on pay is to be released today (30 Mar 12).  Has anyone seen it?  Can you post a copy here?  Unfortunately, I don't have DWAN access at the moment.
 
Nothing on DGC&B yet.

ETA:  No change to the CBIs yet either.
 
In the spirit of this most auspicious event, I two have heard a rumour. To make up for the lack of "Cost of Living Increase" since 2010, the new CBI will reflect an 8% graduated increase back dated to 1 April 2010.









Before taking out that mortgage, check your calendar for what day Sun is...
 
8% seems rather high, as a benchmark that is approx. $378/month increase for Standard, IPC 4 Cpl/LS  :eek:
 
he's not getting it.............. ::)





hee hee  ;D
 
Eye In The Sky said:
8% seems rather high, as a benchmark that is approx. $378/month increase for Standard, IPC 4 Cpl/LS  :eek:

Hmm.. someone makes a post about "April 1st".  I'm thinking - and it's a stretch here - that it might just be a joke.


Given PSAC got 5.25% over three years (1.75%, 1.5% and 2%) after surrendering their severance pay I'd expect the CF increase to be very similar.
 
Haven't heard of anything about a canforgen on pay....  8% does seem rather high....
 
CANFORGEN is there now.  I'm trying to format it from the copy/paste to readable form here to post.
 
Eye In The Sky said:
CANFORGEN is there now.  I'm trying to format it from the copy/paste to readable form here to post.

Wasn't this covered on CTAT?  ;D
 
I smell something funky.

And it is not one of my kids off loading last nights Chili into the Diaper...

 
Not sure why, but I couldn't get it to post, BUT...I was able to send it to the OP in a PM.  Stand by to stand by!!!
 
CANFORGEN 062/12 CMP 029/12 301516Z MAR 12

PAY/ALLOWANCES INCREASE AND CESSATION OF ACCUMULATION OF SEVERANCE PAY AND RESERVE FORCE RETIREMENT GRATUITY (RFRG)

UNCLASSIFIED

1.  FURTHER TO THE MND PARLIAMENTARY ANNOUNCEMENT OF 28 MAR, THIS CANFORGEN IS TO INFORM ALL CF REG AND RES MEMBERS OF THE GOVT OF CANADA APPROVED PAY INCREASE

2.  THIS PAY INCREASE INCLUDES MULTI-YEAR ECONOMIC INCREASES AND AN ADJUSTMENT IN RECOGNITION OF THE CESSATION OF THE ACCUMULATION OF SEVERANCE/RFRG

3.  PAY AND ALLOWANCES. THE FOLLOWING INCREASES TO PAY AND ALLOWANCES HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY TREASURY BOARD:

A.  RETROACTIVE TO 1 APR 11: FOR NCMS, GENERAL OFFICERS, COL AND LEGAL OFFICERS IN THE RANK OF BGEN, COL AND LCOL OF THE LEGAL BRANCH, GSO AND PILOTS, IN THE RANK OF LCOL AND BELOW, AND MEDICAL AND DENTAL OFFICERS, A TOTAL INCREASE OF 1.75 PERCENT TO PAY, REPRESENTING AN ECONOMIC INCREASE OF 1.5 PERCENT AND AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THE CESSATION OF SEVERANCE/RFRG OF 0.25 PERCENT

B.  RETROACTIVE TO 1 APR 11: AN INCREASE OF 1.5 PERCENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL ALLOWANCES, SPECIAL OPS ASSAULTER ALLOWANCE, SUBMARINE CREWING ALLOWANCE, STRESS ALLOWANCE FOR TEST PARTICIPANTS AND SPECIAL ALLOWANCE CFS ALERT

C.  EFFECTIVE 1 APR 12: FOR NCMS, GENERAL OFFICERS, COL AND LEGAL OFFICERS IN THE RANK OF BGEN, COL AND LCOL OF THE LEGAL BRANCH, GSO AND PILOTS, IN THE RANK OF LCOL AND BELOW, AND MEDICAL AND DENTAL OFFICERS, AN INCREASE OF 1.5 PERCENT TO PAY

D.  EFFECTIVE 1 APR 12: AN INCREASE OF 1.5 PERCENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL ALLOWANCES, SPECIAL OPS ASSAULTER ALLOWANCE, SUBMARINE CREWING ALLOWANCE, STRESS ALLOWANCE FOR TEST PARTICIPANTS AND SPECIAL ALLOWANCE CFS ALERT

E.  EFFECTIVE 1 APR 13: FOR NCMS, GSO, PILOTS, IN THE RANK OF LCOL AND BELOW, AND MEDICAL AND DENTAL OFFICERS, A TOTAL INCREASE OF 2 PERCENT TO PAY, REPRESENTING AN ECONOMIC INCREASE OF 1.5 PERCENT AND AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THE CESSATION OF SEVERANCE/RFRG OF 0.5 PERCENT

F.  EFFECTIVE 1 APR 13: AN INCREASE OF 1.5 PERCENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL ALLOWANCES, SPECIAL OPS ASSAULTER ALLOWANCE, SUBMARINE CREWING ALLOWANCE, STRESS ALLOWANCE FOR TEST PARTICIPANTS AND SPECIAL ALLOWANCE CFS ALERT

G.  AT THIS TIME, THERE HAS BEEN NO DECISION MADE REGARDING AN ECONOMIC INCREASE FOR GENERAL OFFICERS, COL, AND LEGAL OFFICERS IN THE RANK OF BGEN, COL AND LCOL OF THE LEGAL BRANCH FOR 1 APR 13

H.  FOR LEGAL OFFICERS IN THE RANK OF CAPT AND MAJ, PAY INCREASES ARE SUBJECT TO A SEPARATE PAY PROCESS AND WILL BE ANNOUNCED AT A LATER DATE

I.  MEMBERS WILL SEE THE RETROACTIVE 1 APR 11 PAY INCREASE ON THEIR MIDDLE OF MAY 12 PAY, AND THE 1 APR 12 PAY INCREASE ON THEIR END OF MAY 12 PAY. THE REVISED RATES OF PAY AND ALLOWANCES ARE AVAILABLE ON THE DGCB WEBSITE : (IntraNet URLs removed)

4.  SEVERANCE PAY/RFRG. CONSISTENT WITH CHANGES TO SEVERANCE PAY FOR THE CORE PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, EXECUTIVES, AND LAW MANAGEMENT GROUPS OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE, SEVERANCE ACCUMULATION FOR VOLUNTARY DEPARTURES (RESIGNATION OR RETIREMENT) FOR MEMBERS OF THE CF WILL CEASE.

A.  EFFECTIVE 1 MAR 12, CBI 204.40 (SEVERANCE PAY) AND CBI 204.54 (RFRG) ARE CANCELLED AND REPLACED BY THE NEW CBI 204.40 TITLED CANADIAN FORCES SEVERANCE PAY (CFSP)

B.  UNDER PREVIOUS SEVERANCE BENEFIT PROVISIONS, ALL MEMBERS VOLUNTARILY RELEASING (4(C)) WITH LESS THAN TEN YEARS OF ELIGIBILE SERVICE RECEIVED NO BENEFIT. REG F MEMBERS RELEASING VOLUNTARILY WITH TEN OR MORE YEARS OF ELIGIBLE SERVICE RECEIVED A BENEFIT CALCULATED AT THREE POINT FIVE DAYS OF PAY PER YEAR. AN RFRG BENEFIT FOR ELIGIBLE RES F MEMBERS RELEASING VOLUNTARILY WITH TEN TO TWENTY YEARS OF ELIGIBLE SERVICE WAS CALCULATED AT THREE POINT FIVE DAYS OF PAY PER YEAR. WITH TWENTY OR MORE YEARS OF ELIGIBLE SERVICE, IT WAS CALCULATED AT SEVEN DAYS OF PAY PER YEAR. UNDER THE NEW PROVISIONS, ALL SEVERANCE BENEFITS WILL BE CALCULATED AT SEVEN DAYS OF PAY FOR EVERY YEAR OF ELIGIBLE SERVICE, INCLUDING PARTIAL YEARS. THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE BEING ELIGIBLE FOR SEVERANCE BENEFITS WHEN VOLUNTARILY RELEASING HAS BEEN ELIMINATED. IN ADDITION, ELIGIBLE RES F SERVICE WILL BE CALCULATED BASED ON ELAPSED TIME RATHER THAN PAID SERVICE

C.  THE CALCULATION OF A SEVERANCE BENEFIT DEPENDS UPON YEARS OF ELIGIBLE SERVICE. GENERALLY, THE ACCUMULATION OF YEARS OF ELIGIBLE SERVICE CEASES: 

(1) EFFECTIVE 1 OCT 11: FOR GENERAL OFFICERS, COL, AND LEGAL OFFICERS IN THE RANK OF LCOL AND ABOVE 

(2) EFFECTIVE THE DATE OF PROMOTION: FOR MEMBERS PROMOTED TO THE SUBSTANTIVE RANK OF COL AND ABOVE AND TO LEGAL OFFICER SUBSTANTIVE RANK LCOL AFTER 30 SEP 11 AND BEFORE 1 MAR 12 

(3) EFFECTIVE 1 MAR 12: FOR ALL OTHER CF OFFICERS AND NCMS (EXCLUDING MILITARY JUDGES) 

(4) EXCEPTION: THE ACCUMULATION OF YEARS OF ELIGIBLE SERVICE CONTINUES FOR A MEMBER WHO IS RELEASED UNDER ITEM 3(A), 3(B), 5(B), 5(D), 5(E), OR 5(C) WHERE THE MEMBER HAS NOT REACHED RETIREMENT AGE UNDER QR AND O CHAPTER 15 BUT HAS COMPLETED THE PERIOD OF OBLIGATORY SERVICE BECAUSE OF A CHANGE IN CLASSIFICATION OR TRADE SPECIFICATIONS OR IN THE ESTABLISHMENT REQUIREMENTS OF THE CF

D.  MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE FOLLOWING THREE OPTIONS REGARDING THE PAYMENT OF A SEVERANCE BENEFIT UNDER CBI 204.40: 

(1) ELECT TO BE PAID A FULL SEVERANCE BENEFIT PRIOR TO RELEASE 

(2) ELECT TO BE PAID PART OF A SEVERANCE BENEFIT PRIOR TO RELEASE AND TO RECEIVE ANY REMAINING SEVERANCE BENEFIT AT RELEASE 

(3) RECEIVE ALL SEVERANCE BENEFITS AT RELEASE

E.  TO MAKE AN ELECTION ALL MEMBERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH AN ESTIMATE OF THEIR YEARS OF ELIGIBLE SERVICE IN AN INFORMATION PACKAGE TO BE MAILED BY EARLY FALL

F.  THE ELECTION PERIOD IS FROM MID DEC 12 TO MID MAR 13. CBI 204.40 DOES NOT AUTHORIZE ANY EXTENSIONS TO THE ELECTION PERIOD. ELECTION FORMS MUST BE RECEIVED NO LATER THAN THE LAST MOMENT OF THE 15TH DAY AFTER THE ELECTION PERIOD ENDS. MEMBERS WHOSE ELECTIONS FORMS ARE NOT RECEIVED BY THIS TIME WILL NOT REPEAT NOT BE ABLE TO GET A SEVERANCE BENEFIT UNTIL THEIR RELEASE

G.  THE MAXIMUM YEARS FOR WHICH SEVERANCE BENEFITS ARE PAYABLE UNDER ANY QR AND O OR CBI CANNOT EXCEED 30 YEARS IN A MEMBERS LIFETIME

H.  CMP STAFF ARE PRESENTLY WORKING ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES TO IMPLEMENT THIS INITIATIVE. FURTHER DETAILS WILL BE PROMULGATED AS SOON AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE

SIGNED BY CMP
 
The raise will disappear when they up our pension contributions!
 
Hopefully it's enough to keep a hypothetical 4-year Cpl, whose personal choices have left him, wife and multiple kids oppressively tied to PMQs in another thread, off of suicide watch.

:stirpot:
 
If I understand correctly, our severance pay will cease, but instead of being calculated for 3.5 days per year of service, it will be calculated for 7 days per year of service with the 3 options highlighted by dapaterson on page 1 of this thread.

INDEMNITE DE DEPART ET ARFR. CONFORMÉMENT AUX CHANGEMENTS A L INDEMNITE DE DEPART POUR LES GROUPES DE L ADMINISTRATION PUBLIQUE CENTRALE, DE LA DIRECTION ET DE LA GESTION DU DROIT DE LA FONCTION PUBLIQUE, L ACCUMULATION DE L INDEMNITE DE DEPART POUR LES DEPARTS VOLONTAIRES (DEMISSION OU RETRAITE) POUR LES MEMBRES DES FC SE TERMINE


ENTREE EN VIGUEUR LE 1 MAR 12, LA DRAS 204.40 (INDEMNITE DE DEPART) ET LA DRAS 204.54 (ARFR) ONT ETE ANNULES ET REMPLACES PAR LA NOUVELLE DRAS 204.40 INTITULEE: INDEMNITE DE DEPART DES FORCES CANADIENNES (IDFC)


SELON LES DISPOSITIONS ANTERIEURES DES INDEMNITES DE DEPART, LES MILITAIRES, AVEC MOINS DE DIX ANS DE SERVICE ADMISSIBLE, QUI PRENAIENT UNE LIBERATION VOLONTAIRE (MOTIF 4(C)) NE RECEVAIT AUCUNE PRESTATION. LES MILITAIRES DE LA FORCE REG, AVEC PLUS DE DIX ANS DE SERVICE ADMISSIBLE, QUI PRENAIENT UNE LIBERATION VOLONTAIRE (MOTIF 4(C)) RECEVAIENT UNE PRESTATION CALCULEE A TROIS JOURS ET DEMIE DE SOLDE PAR AN. LES MILITAIRES ELIGIBLES DE LA FORCE RES, AYANT ENTRE DIX A VINGT ANNEES DE SERVICE ADMISSIBLE, QUI PRENAIENT UNE LIBERATION VOLONTAIRE (MOTIF 4(C)), RECEVAIENT UNE PRESTATION ARFR CALCULEE A TROIS JOURS ET DEMIE DE SOLDE PAR AN. ALORS QUE CEUX AVEC VINGT ANNEES DE SERVICE ET PLUS, RECEVAIT UNE PRESTATION ARFR CALCULEE A SEPT JOURS DE SOLDE PAR AN. SOUS LES NOUVELLES DISPOSITIONS, TOUTES LES PRESTATIONS SERONT CALCULEES A SEPT JOURS DE SOLDE PAR ANNEE DE SERVICE ADMISSIBLE, INCLUANT TOUTE PARTIE D ANNEE. LA NECESSITE D AVOIR UN CERTAIN NOMBRE D ANNEES DE SERVICE POUR OBTENIR UNE INDEMNITÉ DE DEPART LORS D UNE LIBERATION VOLONTAIRE DEPART EST ELIMINEE. DE PLUS, LE SERVICE DE LA FORCE RES ADMISSIBLE SERA CALCULE EN FONCTION DU TEMPS ECOULE PLUTOT QUE DU SERVICE PAYE


LE CALCUL DE L INDEMNITE DE DEPART EST RELIE AUX ANNEES DE SERVICE ADMISSIBLE. GENERALEMENT, L ACCUMULATION DES ANNEES DE SERVICE ADMISSIBLE PREND FIN:

(1) ENTREE EN VIGUEUR LE 1 OCT 11: POUR LES OFFICIERS GENERAUX, LES COL, ET LES AVOCATS MILITAIRES AYANT LE GRADE DE LCOL/CAPF OU UN GRADE SUPERIEUR

(2) ENTREE EN VIGUEUR A LA DATE DE PROMOTION: POUR MILITAIRES PROMUS AU GRADE EFFECTIF DE COL OU UN GRADE SUPERIEUR ET POUR LES AVOCATS MILITAIRES PROMUS AU GRADE EFFECTIF DE LCOL APRES LE 30 SEP 11 ET OU AVANT LE 1 MAR 12

(3) ENTREE EN VIGUEUR LE 1 MAR 12: POUR TOUS LES AUTRES OFFICIERS DES FC ET LES MILITAIRES DU RANG (A L EXCEPTION DES JUGES MILITAIRES)

(4) EXCEPTION: L ACCUMULATION DES ANNEES DE SERVICE ADMISSIBLE CONTINUE POUR UN MILITAIRE LIBERE EN VERTU DES DISPOSITIONS DES ALINEAS 3(A), 3(B), 5(B), 5(D), 5(E), OU 5(C) SANS AVOIR ATTEINT L AGE DE LA RETRAITE EN VERTU DU CHAPITRE 15 DES ORFC MAIS QUI A TERMINE SA PERIODE DE SERVICE OBLIGATOIRE A CAUSE D UN CHANGEMENT DE CLASSIFICATION, DE DESCRIPTION DE GPM OU D EXIGENCES RELATIVES AU TABLEAU D EFFECTIFS ET DE DOTATION DES FC


LES MILITAIRES AURONT TROIS OPTIONS EN CE QUI CONCERNE LE PAIEMENT POUR L INDEMNITE DE DEPART SOUS LA DRAS:

(1) EXERCER LE CHOIX DE RECEVOIR UN PAIEMENT D UNE INDEMNITE DE DEPART COMPLETE AVANT LA LIBERATION

(2) EXERCER LE CHOIX DE RECEVOIR UNE PORTION DE PAIEMENT D UNE INDEMNITE DE DEPART AVANT LA LIBERATION ET DE RECEVOIR LE RESTE AU MOMENT DE LEUR LIBERATION

(3) RECEVOIR TOUTE L INDEMNITE DE DEPART A LEUR LIBERATION


POUR EXERCER LEUR CHOIX, TOUS LES MILITAIRES TOUCHES RECEVRONT UNE ESTIMATION DE LEUR ANNEES DE SERVICE ADMISSIBLE DANS UNE TROUSSE D INFORMATION QUI SERA POSTEE AU DEBUT DE L AUTOMNE


LA PERIODE POUR EXERCER LE CHOIX SERA DU MI-DEC 12 AU MI-MAR 13 INCLUS. LA DRAS N AUTORISE PAS D EXTENSION A CETTE PERIODE. LA FORMULE DE CHOIX DOIT ETRE RECU AU PLUS TARD LE DERNIER INSTANT DU 15 IEME JOUR APRES LA FIN DE LA PERIODE D OPTION. LES MILITAIRES DONT LA FORMULE DE CHOIX N EST PAS RECUE DANS CE DELAIS NE SERONT PAS EN MESURE D OBTENIR LEUR INDEMNITE DE DEPART AVANT LEUR LIBERATION
 
SupersonicMax said:
If I understand correctly, our severance pay will cease, but instead of being calculated for 3.5 days per year of service, it will be calculated for 7 days per year of service with the 3 options highlighted by dapaterson on page 1 of this thread.

Reservists go from 3.5 to 7.  Regs always were at 7.
 
Hmmm
It hasn't shown in my BB and I have a "Don't f*** with me" app.
...believe half of what you see and less of what you hear...but ....
 
PPCLI Guy said:
Reservists go from 3.5 to 7.  Regs always were at 7.

Except that now everyone gets 7 days per year of service up to Feb 2012; until now, those with under 10 years would have got nothing.  And given the heavy turn over in the Reg F after the initial engagement or second engagement, with folks frequently not reaching 10 years, it's a nice bonus for those junior folks who otherwise would never have qualified.
 
Now I'm curious as to whether I can combine my reserve service (way back in the stone age) in with my regular force service to max out entitlement.
 
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