Canadian GATS, whats the go?

[TCBF]

C1 - FN C1A1 7.62mm.  C.A.L. (Long Branch) version of the FAL - yours was the Lithgow built L1A1.
C2 - FN C2A1 7.62 mm.  C.A.L (Long Branch) version of the FAL HB - yours was the Lithgow built L2A1.
C3 - 7.62 mm Sniper Rifle (PH 1200TX (more or less).
C4 - Was to be new designation of SMG 9mm C1 (C.A.L. built Stering-Patchett).  None left - all smelted.
C5 - Modified almost functional GPMG C1 which was our 7.62 version of the Browning M1919A4.  Mods from .30 U.S (.30-06) to 7.62 NATO completed about the Fall of 1970. No longer used.
C6 - Cdn purchase of the FN MAG 58.  First bought for the Leopard C1 tank in 1978.
C7 - And variants - Cdn DIEMACO (Dietrich Machine Company) version of the M16A1E1 with modifications.
C8 - Shorty C7 - but not as shorty as a '60s CAR-15.
C9 - Cdn adopted Minimi/SAW249.
C10 - Never adopted version .22 cal Cadet rifle.

End of chapter 1.

 

[Trooper Hale]

Thanks for that, i cant wait for chapter 2! Its going to be awesome to have a real look at the C7 and the C8 shorty. Our Steyr carbine that us armoured guys use is a fair bit shorter then the normal steyr but shoots just as well.
Theres absolutely nothing like getting behind a Mag with a couple of belts on the ground next to you, as i'm sure massecar will agree! Ripping out a 40 round burst and being completely unable to see downrange through the vibration and smoke cant be beaten...Except by the 12.7 on the ground mount, nestling in behind it, building the position, screaming "Firing...NOW" and trying to keep her on target as the ground around the target becomes a mess of dirt and dust, "Target destroyed or completely unhappy".
I dont think i definately said this last night (I suggested it, but was a bit drunk) the Australian army definately use the Mag 58, especially in armoured corp.

 

[KevinB]

I've used the Steyr -- underwhelmed by the ergonomics...


As far as a Chapter 2 goes. (most pics I've put up elsewhere in this thread)

C7A1 - C7 with flatop
C7A2 - C7A1 with 4 position (early M4) Telescopic stock - green furiniture and TRIAD-1 rail

C7CT - Light Sniper Rifle - freefloate heavy match barrel)

C8A1 - C8 with flatop

C8SFW (16" heavy barrel with Simon Sleeve - for Diemaco M203A1 mount, and KAC RAS)

C8FTHB (SFW w/o RAS)

C8CQB (10" barrel)

C9A1 - C9 with iron sight removed - aluminum rail added and bizarre iron sight added
C9A2 - C9 w/ old irons, steel 1913 rail, Short barrel - with C9 flashhider (para's have a different flashhider) and a telescopic M4 stock (some are also folders) plus bi-rail on side (can't recall its nomeclature)

 

[pissedpat]

Hmmm, the whole idea of pics and links seems to really be usefull for helping out our friend from down under understand what we have. C7 C8 and C9 seem to be done, lets post something on what else we have. I suck at forum code, so only links from me.
Your friend, the mag 58/c6/m240g http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-c6.htm On another note, other varients exist for coax roles or air mount. They lack the butt and have different sights.
Our 84 mm anti tank gun, the carl gustav http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-aargust.htm
The 84 is a bit bigger then the disposable M72 we sort of use. http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-aarm72.htm
Now this is a list of our small arms... would the javalin count? Sure. http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-aamjavelin.htm Or the Eryx http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-aameryx.htm
Mortars are also used a fair ammount, http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-mortar60.htm http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-mortar81.htm
And just for fun, lets say the 40mm GMG is a small arm... only our special forces have them last I heard, but they do exist in Canada http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-casw.htm
How about or .50 sniper, distant kill record holder http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-tac50.htm
And the .50 MG that you guys probably use too http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-m2.htm
Now you say you use the browning, the high power I assume? http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-c9mm.htm
Hows about the C13/M67 Fragmentation Grenade? http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m67.htm
That is about all I can think about from a small arms point of view.

Pat

 

[Good2Golf]

I-6, que pasa mit die Elcanschiße on the C8s (esp. the CQB)???

 

[KevinB]

Duey -- how they get issued...

  I seem to have deleted all my C8CQB pics off my photobucket account

 

[Trooper Hale]

Well i'm here now in Petawawa. I havent fired C7 yet though so i cant compare but ergonomics of the steyr? They work great and feel even better! Its good stuff.
mess is closing, have to fly, but i'll fight anyone who slags the steyr! maybe not but still, i love it and cant wait to try the C7. I'm thinking that i may be fairly impressed.

 

[pte. Massecar]

Hale, Im really nowhere near Ottawa. about 8 hours away. If for any reason you come to Hamilton (south east of Toronto..at the pointy end of lake Ontario on a map) Ill definetly take you for some beers.

 

[KevinB]

Hale -- I work with some ex Aussies both SASR and RAR guys -- everyone of them loves the M4A1 over the Steyr 

 

[Trooper Hale]

Ah well thats because they actually want to shoot bad guys with the M4! I just want to shoot targets and look gucci! Awful thing to say i know, but so is that i drunk 11 bottles of Keiths and i have to work tomorrow. I suppose the M4 is better then the steyr, but for what i want it for and for what the vast majority of the blokes in Iraq right now want it for it does the job just as well, if not better, then anything else. Shes a good bit of gear, is our Steyr.
And Cpl Massecar, if i am in Hamilton i'll take you up on those beers. Peta's a distance though, from what you say. I'll be in Toronto eventually though and when i am, i'll drop you a line. Going to Ottawa this weekend. Should be fun but tomorrow i'll have a crack at getting to a C7 and giving you all my honest opinion. Not a steyr biased opinion but honest!

 

[Skaha]

here's  the lot in picture form . . . .

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-0weapons.htm