Benefits Cut...
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ObedientiaZelum said:
Yes; you're in shacks and eating in the mess? That's the incidentals.
ObedientiaZelum said:
I average just under 400 now for se so that is probably what he means.
As for the change to a restricted posting, it is a great option for the member but it will probably be more expense to the military overall. Talking with my CoC today that is the solution that seems to be their best guess but, in my case at least, it would cost the military a full cost move rather than a 500 dollar ticket to Victoria. I understand not everyone can be posted to a base where their family is but it seems to me that it is a better option where it exists.
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I would argue it should not cost someone in the circumstances you describe (and I have experience with such circumstances), but the TB has already made the decision to take away the funding which covers the additional expenses. I suspect it would be futile, convincing TB to reverse its decision. However, looking at existing mechanisms that we have to sp members temporarily away from home, I think the CF could improve the situation of most future pers going unaccompanied by convincing TB to cover that circumstance under CFTDTIs.wesleyd said:
We could use attached postings.signalsguy said:
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Tony Manifold said:
You are absolutely correct, this will cost the CF, as a whole, a crap ton more money. However, the optics of stopping all these people that have been "abusing" the system as well as the optics of reuniting families long separated look quite good.
Then we get into the different "types" of money on the fin side and which "pot" the money comes out of. The pot of money for SE has all dried up, however there is money left in the pot of money for cost moves for new recruits and their families.
This is where we get into semantics, and quite frankly, it gets stupid.
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Attached posted to the school until graduation, then a normal posting to the new unit. That is done in many other situations. For example, i was attached posted from my unit to CFANS until i graduated and then receive a normal posting message to another unit at another base.
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signalsguy said:
The justification for att-posting in those situations may be that you will not go on to the new job unless you pass the training - there's no guarantee.
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That would be "sense". There is a "spell check" function on this site, maybe you can manage to use it.
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Wookilar said:
Its a personal choice. I don't abuse the system I use the program as its intended and that's that. Whether you agree with my reason for going IR is inconsequential as its approved through the proper channels and all completely legit.
I have also stated that I think IR should be drastically changed to just R&Q no living on the economy and no benefits. I think R&Q is more than fair.
On a side note, I am not asking my wife (as of this Saturday
) to give up everything she worked for because an organization that only I belong too thinks they can run her life too. I have 7 years left to complete then I will pull the pin. If that means I`m on IR for 7 years or some version of it so be it. If it means I don't get IR anymore and we live distantly so be it, but my last 7 is not worth nearly as much as her next 35.
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You may be getting approval from the proper authorities, but you are not using the system as intended. IR is intended to be a temporary deferment of a posting. You are making a lifestyle choice to permanently put-off any posting. You are not using the system as intended - you are part of the problem.Halifax Tar said:Its a personal choice. I don't abuse the system I use the program as its intended and that's that. Whether you agree with my reason for going IR is inconsequential as its approved through the proper channels and all completely legit.
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... I am not asking my wife (as of this Saturday
Many locations do not have quarters nor kitchens. R&Q is not an option in many places.Halifax Tar said:
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ArmyVern said:
Actually, the message did outline that all separation expense claims would no longer be claimable, so the $400 a month that people were recieving for SE every month is no longer claimable.
As for possible solutions, I was also told today that they may be looking at changing my posting status from prohibited to allow me to move my wife and son here. As long as it doesn't affect my course, or get me recoursed due to missing too many classes, I'm all for it. The less time away from them, the better IMO.
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Halifax Tar said:On a side note, I am not asking my wife (as of this Saturday
Had a guy like that, got himself a compassionate posting to a reserve unit near his home. He'd milked IR while in Petawawa, and got it again in KTown. He wanted a real spot near his house, CM told him to move unrestricted or release. He released and I don't think he got his 20 years. As its been said, you're part of the problem.
Halifax Tar said:Its a personal choice. I don't abuse the system I use the program as its intended and that's that. Whether you agree with my reason for going IR is inconsequential as its approved through the proper channels and all completely legit.
I have also stated that I think IR should be drastically changed to just R&Q no living on the economy and no benefits. I think R&Q is more than fair.
On a side note, I am not asking my wife (as of this Saturday
I call BS! I might be new but even I know that's WRONG!
I have a career and job that I've had for 24 years. I am marrying my guy in 38 days.
He's been posted, I will move next summer sometime and guess what, I have made all the necessary arrangements to keep my job.
My understanding of being the wife is I'm to follow him (when I am allowed) where he is sent, regardless of how much time he has left. Isn't that part of our "job" as a military wife.
I'm fairly certain your wife also knows what comes with marrying a military man......
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MCG said:
Actually, as one of the persons who - just last month - fully supported his request for extension to his IR to the Career Manager (who approved it), his reasons were sound. It does have to do with lifestyle ... and yet he had ZERO intent of "being IR for the next 3, 4, 5, 6 or 7 years." He was, and isn't, part of the problem. He is aware that certain places do not have proper accommodations (we've actually talked about his opinion on that), but he is of the belief that building those appropriate accommodations would save the CF money in the long run - it's all in the context of the comments.
His referring to 7 years left and he will go unaccompanied for those 7 (at his own expense too) because his career is not more important than hers details exactly that he is not riding the system and that, if need be, in order for her not to get screwed in her career either, then they, as a couple, will incur all necessary costs for next 7 years out of their own pockets if his career requires him to go somewhere else to enable both careers rather than the taxpayer as it would then be a lifestyle choice.
Do they plan on being apart for next 7 years? No. It was a commentary on the current situation --- and that even if they cut IR to nil - he is not about to screw his wife's career at the behest of the CF and would pay himself to ensure he did not.
To be clear, his wife's budding career is not the sole reason for his current status.
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